[True Disciple]

Originally Posted by natureboyuk6

If you follow the rules that the bible teaches you then every man should be treated equal regardless of ethnicity or gender!

If you had read this thread, friend, you would have known that this is an evident falsehood:

Deuteronomy 7:1-6:
When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou;
And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:
Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.
For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.
But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire.
For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

Deuteronomy 23:3-4:
An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever: Because they met you not with bread and with water in the way, when ye came forth out of Egypt; and because they hired against thee Balaam the son of Beor of Pethor of Mesopotamia, to curse thee.

Ezra 9:1-2:
The people of Israel, and the priests, and the Levites, have not separated themselves from the people of the lands, doing according to their abominations, even of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Jebusites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, and the Amorites.
For they have taken of their daughters for themselves, and for their sons: so that the holy seed have mingled themselves with the people of those lands: yea, the hand of the princes and rulers hath been chief in this trespass.

Jeremiah 13:23:
Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

Matthew 15:22-26:
And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.

Also, have any of you considered that the Bible was written by humans, and not God regardless whether it was his words or not (possibly not always?)!

The Entire Bible is written by God:

2 Timothy 3:15-17:
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

And even if It weren't, then how would you distinguish between the parts that were and the parts that weren't inspired by God?

- and that times have changed and things should be treated differently -

This is such ridiculous nonsense that I still can't believe my eyes when I read this, even though it's not the first time I've seen it.

Why on Earth should anything be treated "differently?" I have met many false christians who claim that, in the Biblical Age, genocide was acceptable (see Numbers 31 and 1 Samuel 15), but not now anymore. Or that, in Old Testamental times, killing people for practicing other religions was allowed, but not now anymore. But why would that be? Why would morality change through the ages? If God said genocide was okay in Old Testamental times, then it is still okay now. After all, God NEVER changes:

Hebrews 13:8:
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Malachi 3:6:
For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

And neither does His Law:

Isaiah 40:8:
The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

Matthew 5:17-19:
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

maybe the bible should be used as a tool for good practice not for living your life exactly as it says (or how your racist minds perpetrate it!) but by being caring human beings for your fellow man and planet!

Could you back this ridiculous statement up with Scripture?

Originally Posted by natureboyuk6

The reason I decided not to read its entirety is that it made me sick at how you can act towards fellow human beings.

So people who follow the Bible make you sick? And you call yourself a Christian?

So I will pray for you 'brother' that one day you will come to your senses and treat everyone as equal.

We read the Bible here. We do not use our "senses:"

Deuteronomy 29:19-20:
And it come to pass, when he heareth the words of this curse, that he bless himself in his heart, saying, I shall have peace, though I walk in the imagination of mine heart, to add drunkenness to thirst:
The LORD will not spare him, but then the anger of the LORD and his jealousy shall smoke against that man, and all the curses that are written in this book shall lie upon him, and the LORD shall blot out his name from under heaven.

[Wide-Open]

Originally Posted by natureboyuk6

You do not, you interpret it how you want to interpret it. Maybe discrimination was the 'in-thing' back then but it is not anymore and you should move with the times.

Look Simon, I really don't like it when people tell me what to do. I am a good Christian, I believe in the eternal Word of the Bible (KJV 1611 only), which was written by God.

Psalm 117:2
For his merciful kindness is great toward us: and the truth of the LORD endureth for ever. Praise ye the LORD.

Have you even read the Bible son?

[Jack O'fagan]

Originally Posted by natureboyuk6

You do not, you interpret it how you want to interpret it. Maybe discrimination was the 'in-thing' back then but it is not anymore and you should move with the times.

We are not interpreting. God's word is God's word. He doesn't change his views to be the 'in-thing'. Pick up the Bible, read it all and then come back.

YiC

Jack

[natureboyuk6]

How do you know it is Gods word and not just some nut job that was hallucinating? - by the way before anyone bites my head off I'm not saying it was

[Wide-Open]

Originally Posted by natureboyuk6

How do you know it is Gods word and not just some nut job that was hallucinating? - by the way before anyone bites my head off I'm not saying it was

OK, so you can't be bothered to read the thread, and can't even be bothered to read our replies?

Why don't you let your cat walk over your keyboard? Who knows it might be closer to "communication" than what you are doing now.

[Dr. Isaiah Jones]

Originally Posted by natureboyuk6

How do you know it is Gods word and not just some nut job that was hallucinating?

The proof is irrefutable.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

[natureboyuk6]

Well maybe you should use your 'senses' rather than just reading the bible - after all the divine creator created us with the power to steward the world and the world has clearly changed with the creation of technology etc. thus requiring a different approach (not violence as has been used in the past - how about compassion and kindness?!). Shallow minded people such as yourselves are why people are being pushed away from Christianity in developed Countries due to your hatred for everyone else that aren't similar - hallelujah you are spreading Gods word around the World ... but not in a way that he intended it to be but rather by people thinking you are complete idiots and intolerant b******s!

"We read the Bible here. We do not use our "senses:"" this is an exemplarly example of why you will no longer be participating in this forum.

Oh and P.s. I have many Saudi friends and I have discussed this with them so do not stereotype everyone that is from there!!!!!

[James Ussher]

Originally Posted by natureboyuk6

Well maybe you should use your 'senses' rather than just reading the bible

Don't you need your sense of sight to read the Bible?

Maybe you should try thinking before spewing words out of your facehole!

[Jack O'fagan]

Originally Posted by natureboyuk6

Well maybe you should use your 'senses' rather than just reading the bible - after all the divine creator created us with the power to steward the world and the world has clearly changed with the creation of technology etc. thus requiring a different approach (not violence as has been used in the past - how about compassion and kindness?!). Shallow minded people such as yourselves are why people are being pushed away from Christianity in developed Countries due to your hatred for everyone else that aren't similar - hallelujah you are spreading Gods word around the World ... but not in a way that he intended it to be but rather by people thinking you are complete idiots and intolerant b******s!

Is your problem with us because we follow the words of the Bible or is your problem actually with the Bible?

[Wide-Open]

Originally Posted by Jack O'fagan

Is your problem with us because we follow the words of the Bible or is your problem actually with the Bible?

It could be both Brother. He hates the Bible for being the Truth, and us, for knowing the Truth.

We get these people all the time here. It's maddening, but I guess we should feel blessed by his persecution. Although I always link persecution to an attention span of more than four seconds. Something Simon doesn't seem capable of. That's not persecution, that's harassment.

I will pray for him.

[TruthHunter]

are the new generations growing up in america really godly? honestly I really think most of the godly children come from godly parents, and how many are there? is there really enough christians in america to still call it a "Godly" nation?I always thought we were a minority in the population.

[Meek and Humble]

Originally Posted by TruthHunter

are the new generations growing up in america really godly? honestly I really think most of the godly children come from godly parents, and how many are there? is there really enough christians in america to still call it a "Godly" nation?I always thought we were a minority in the population.

True, most of the country is evil (they voted in OBAMA! ), but we shall forever have God's blessing since we protect Israel

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by natureboyuk6

..after all the divine creator created us ..etc

the world has clearly changed with the creation of technology etc.

How has it changed? The march of technology has been fairly consistent since the development of the spoked wheel some 5,000 years ago. By Jesus’ day there were some rather sophisticated chariots around e.g. the Quadriga:

and smelting of metals was continually improving just as it is today; many new alloys were developed by Greeks, Romans, Persians, Babylonians, Chinese and in India they were exporting billets of short-iron impossible to duplicate in the modern world.

Water-wheels were connected to industrial scale mills by Roman technologists, and apart from the absence of steam/electric/diesel power were not much different from a modern mill: FLOUR MILLS: SAW MILLS.

..all essential components of the much later steam engine were assembled by one technological culture:

At what point in this historical timeline do you consider that God's Word became obsolete?

..thus requiring a different approach (not violence as has been used in the past - how about compassion and kindness?!).

Well, there have been many examples of God's Perfect Love presented in this forum. Remember talking about the Divine Creator?
Here is your source material — now let's see what it has to say about "a different approach" shall we?

"Let's stop doing things God's way. It's time to try a different approach."

II CHRONICLES 15 12-15

And they entred into a couenant to seeke the Lord God of their fathers, with all their heart and with all their soule: That whosoeuer would not seeke the Lord God of Israel, should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. And they sware vnto the Lord with a loud voice, and with shouting, and with trumpets, and with cornets. And all Iudah reioyced at the oath: for they had sworne with all their heart, & sought him with their whole desire, and he was found of them: and the Lord gaue them rest round about.
©1611


You see God loved His chosen people so much that He would kill, or arrange to have killed, anyone who might naysay His Perfect Wisdom, be they man or woman, child or slave. He knew what even the least contaminant among His people could do. Satan hates to see anyone walking that narrow path which leads to salvation Matthew 7:14 and will get you off any way he can.
He'll push you off and shove you and he'll use LUST and SEX to suck you off..
Satan's vacuum cleaner to Hell. It's nothing new..

Look what happened when The Israelites fell a-perving at temple prostitutes and decided, well.. we're a bit behind the times here, it must be time for a new approach. These Moabites seem to be doing OK, whores everywhere and a "modern" system of worship where everyone intercopulates with the harlots displayed so wantonly about their temples..
Really Quite Up To Date..... Look, there's one over there.... ...... ..

NUMBERS 25 1-4

And Israel abode in Shittim, and the people begun to commit whoredome with the daughters of Moab. And they called the people vnto the sacrifices of their gods: and the people did eate, and bowed downe to their gods. And Israel ioyned himselfe vnto Baal-Peor: and the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel. And the Lord said vnto Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them vp before the Lord against the Sunne, that the fierce anger of the Lord may be turned away from Israel.
©1611


They thought they knew better than God.
God had told them what THE CERTAIN OUTCOME would be.
God did not want that outcome for His people. That is why He informed them of the consequences.
Notice in verse 3 that it is The Israelites themselves who kindle God's anger.
God does not dish out arbitrary injustice, that is exactly what He DOES NOT WANT TO HAPPEN.
His rulings are always just Deuteronomy 32:4.

God showed mercy to Israel. All the idolatrous, whoremongering perverts had their heads chopped off and hung up in the sunlight for God to see. Notice the use of the passive voice in verse 4 "..be turned away.." which tells us that God is not turning His anger on & off like some crack-whore changing pimps with gifts of money. The destruction of The Israelites IS OF THEIR OWN DOING, despite warning after warning and wouldn't you know it BINGO:

some man-slut goes and hooks up with A MIDIANITESS

NUMBERS 25 6

And behold, one of the children of Israel came and brought vnto his brethren a Midianitish woman, in the sight of Moses, and in the sight of all the Congregation of the children of Israel, who were weeping before the doore of the Tabernacle of the Congregation.
©1611


With the heads decomposing and plague rampant after the purge of sub-human filth that was contaminatig Israel, one man was Godly enough to act:

NUMBERS 25 7-12

And when Phinehas the sonne of Eleazar, the sonne of Aaron the Priest saw it, hee rose vp from amongst the Congregation, and tooke a iauelin in his hand. And he went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them thorow, the man of Israel, and the woman, thorow her belly: So the plague was stayed from the children of Israel. And those that died in the plague, were twentie and foure thousand. And the Lord spake vnto Moses, saying, Phinehas the sonne of Eleazar, the sonne of Aaron the Priest, hath turned my wrath away from the children of Israel, (while hee was zealous for my sake among them) that I consumed not the children of Israel in my ielousie. Wherefore say, Behold, I giue vnto him my Couenant of peace.
©1611


God wanted peace. He didn't want whores fornicating. He didn't want filth and abomination and plague. He didn't want His people contaminated with the corruption of Baal-peor temple abominations. And God knew how to bring about that peace on earth: KILL ALL THE MIDIANITES.

NUMBERS 25 16-17
And the Lord spake vnto Moses, saying, Uexe the Midianites, and smite them: ©1611

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Shallow minded people such as atheists and prostitute worshippers deny God's Perfect Love. It is because all such wretches have not been killed as God commanded that there is unrest and plague in the world today. The secular, atheistic lawmakers we follow do not see that truth either. Jesus will arrange for more than 2,000,000,000 people to be slaughtered quite soon. But even with all the warnings from past history, God tells us (in the future history He has preserved for us) that many still persisted with idolatry (in the future), murder, witchcraft, whoremongering, looting: God did not want that to happen, but superficial types, socialists, Vodoun, Christadelphians etc. will keep up their "modern" agenda and will finish up in Hell.

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REVELATION 7 1-2; 9:15,18,20-21

And after these things, I saw foure Angels standing on the foure corners of the Earth, holding the foure windes of the earth, that the winde should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. And I saw another Angel ascending from the East, hauing the seale of the liuing God: and he cried with a loud voice to the foure Angels to whom it was giuen to hurt the earth and the Sea... And the foure Angels were loosed, which were prepared for an houre, and a day, and a moneth, and a yeere, for to slay the third part of men... By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone which issued out of their mouthes... And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues, yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship deuils, and idoles of golde, and siluer, and brasse, and stone, and of wood, which neither can see, nor heare, nor walke: Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
©1611


We read the Bible here. And we will never be mohammedans.

PRAISE GOD FOR HIS TENDERMERCIES ! !

[Nobar King]

Here's another good map that's obviously not drawn up by America hating cartographers:

[Victor Hatherley]

Here's a good World language Map:



It's Horrible to see how far the Filthy Illegals have spread there ungodly tongue into America.

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by Victor Hatherley

Here's a good World language Map:



It's Horrible to see how far the Filthy Illegals have spread there ungodly tongue into America.

What's with all the racism?

[lukasekman]

Here's my contribution for a world map:
The different colors also hint about optimal foreign policy, ie "war on terror" vs jihad, coups vs drug smugglers, nukes vs commies etc.

Sincerely in Christ, Lukas

[Mass_Hysteria]

Austrians? In Australia? Hmmm... Nice work?

[Jane Britton]

I was just about to say that as well! Not quite so accurate as they thought hey.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Jane Britton

I was just about to say that as well! Not quite so accurate as they thought hey.

We're not really interested in what you have to say. Unsaved females are to be ignored.

1 Corinthians 14:34-36
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.