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Default Re: Is it OK to "Steal" My Neighbor's Wi-Fi Signal? - 10-24-2010, 10:15 AM

Well that was a good question, now here is a good answer: When using a neighbor's wifi signal, what are your intentions?, do you intend to look up helpful knowlege?, in that case, I see nothing wrong with it, but!!, if your intentions are to steal music, and/or movies, then it is wrong, mainly because when a person does that, they place the neighbor in jepordy, the neighbor can be thrown in jail and fined up to what ever the copy rights infringement law says that they must pay, worse yet, what if a wifi thief goes online for the soul purpose of watching porn, now the neighbor is seen as a pervert by the local authorities, and is investigated, which BTW, costs money, tax money that is, so I think that we should look at the intentions first.
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Default Re: Is it OK to "Steal" My Neighbor's Wi-Fi Signal? - 10-24-2010, 10:22 AM

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Well that was a good question, now here is a good answer: When using a neighbor's wifi signal, what are your intentions?, do you intend to look up helpful knowlege?, in that case, I see nothing wrong with it, but!!, if your intentions are to steal music, and/or movies, then it is wrong, mainly because when a person does that, they place the neighbor in jepordy, the neighbor can be thrown in jail and fined up to what ever the copy rights infringement law says that they must pay, worse yet, what if a wifi thief goes online for the soul purpose of watching porn, now the neighbor is seen as a pervert by the local authorities, and is investigated, which BTW, costs money, tax money that is, so I think that we should look at the intentions first.
Quite simple, it is you breaking the law, not your neighbor.


Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
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Default Re: Is it OK to "Steal" My Neighbor's Wi-Fi Signal? - 10-24-2010, 10:31 AM

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Quite simple, it is you breaking the law, not your neighbor.
Tell that to the phone company and the police, wifi stealers don't show up on radar, that's the problem, only the person that has the internet connection, that's why I do not use wifi, it's turned off, better safe than sorry.
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Default Re: Is it OK to "Steal" My Neighbor's Wi-Fi Signal? - 10-24-2010, 10:35 AM

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Tell that to the phone company and the police, wifi stealers don't show up on radar, that's the problem, only the person that has the internet connection, that's why I do not use wifi, it's turned off, better safe than sorry.
If you are a True Christian then there is no problem with anyone believing you.


Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.
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Default Re: Is it OK to "Steal" My Neighbor's Wi-Fi Signal? - 10-24-2010, 10:41 AM

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If you are a True Christian then there is no problem with anyone believing you.
That's what we all want to believe, but the phone company and the law goes by evidence, and phone records is evidence, I'm sure that a good lawer and some time, and money would clear one's name, but, why go through it, that's why mine is off.

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Default Re: Is it OK to "Steal" My Neighbor's Wi-Fi Signal? - 10-24-2010, 10:44 AM

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That's what we all want to believe, but the phone company and the law goes by evidence, and phone records is evidence, I'm sure that a good lawer and some time, and money would clear one's name, but, why go through it, that's why mine is off.

Remember: The Best Way To Fight A Fire Is To Prevent The Fire
God would not let a True Christian be falsely convicted in that way. If God is on your side then there is no problem.


Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.
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Default Re: Is it OK to "Steal" My Neighbor's Wi-Fi Signal? - 10-24-2010, 11:07 AM

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God would not let a True Christian be falsely convicted in that way. If God is on your side then there is no problem.
Well Lisa, I for one have been pulled from death many times by God, but I don't want to talk about it now, I personally know the wonders of spiritural intervention, and God has also given me the wonderous glory of intervening in the lives of others, I also know the greed of the American system, and it's Satan, and I have met this Satan first hand, and it's the same here in Germany, but not as bad. The greedy capitalist/zionists don't care about anyone's God, only theirs but yes, I do have faith, but why challege it.
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Well Lisa, I for one have been pulled from death many times by God, but I don't want to talk about it now, I personally know the wonders of spiritural intervention, and God has also given me the wonderous glory of intervening in the lives of others, I also know the greed of the American system, and it's Satan, and I have met this Satan first hand, and it's the same here in Germany, but not as bad. The greedy capitalist/zionists don't care about anyone's God, only theirs but yes, I do have faith, but why challege it.
There is only one God, all other gods are just false idols. God is more powerful than Satan. If you are a True Christian and live like the Bible tells us, then there is no problem.


Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.
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Default Re: Is it OK to "Steal" My Neighbor's Wi-Fi Signal? - 10-24-2010, 11:12 AM

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Default Re: Is it OK to "Steal" My Neighbor's Wi-Fi Signal? - 10-24-2010, 01:54 PM

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Did you miss my post about the neighbour giving his wi-fi as a gift.

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So if my neighbor builds his house on my property? plows a field on my property? Sends his man servant to do work on my property?

Perhaps if the Wifi could only be used by one person at a time, it could be considered stealing, but your neighbor could be online and not even notice you. Unless of course you decide to pirate a bunch of videos or something.
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I thought I was pretty clear in my initial post in anticipating the potential God mockers that might come around here and try to undermine the Bible (KJV1611). "Coveting" is a thought crime against God, it says nothing about actually doing anything about it.



If my neighbor refuses to erect a fence on his property and I happen to observe his scantily clad harlot wife sunbathing in the back yard I better not even think about the idea of planting my seed in her as that would be a sin. If, however, she wanders over to my property and begs me to put some seed in her it is an entirely different matter.

A Wi-Fi signal is an example of the latter, as it simply wanders on to my property.
With referance to the above comments, I did state


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That is the debate, I was just showing that your special book in Deuteronomy 5:21 covers wifi as much as it does a house, field, or man seruant etc.
At no point did I pass comment as to whether to use your neighbour's wifi was right or wrong.


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With referance to the above comments, I did state




At no point did I pass comment as to whether to use your neighbour's wifi was right or wrong.
So are you going to make a decisioned on what is right or wrong, or are you just going to argue with everyone.


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Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
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Default Re: Is it OK to "Steal" My Neighbor's Wi-Fi Signal? - 10-27-2010, 08:05 AM

I figured I would put few cents in this thread regretting the Wi-Fi Signal.

Assuming they didn't add a password on the wireless router(You know, the machine that gives those Wi-Fi signal), its fair game but just remember that they're also paying to use that kind of service for their house. What I would suggest doing is asking the neighbor if you could use their wi-fi and donate some money to them to help pay for the service. This way, you could avoid huge problem for everyone in future.

Before I moved to new place, my neighbor was 'stealing' my wi-fi since it didn't have password on it.(Thanks to my stupid room mate who can't figure out how to enable my wireless router signal on her computer.) So what I did was redirecting the neighbor to lolcat repeatably.
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I figured I would put few cents in this thread regretting the Wi-Fi Signal.

Assuming they didn't add a password on the wireless router(You know, the machine that gives those Wi-Fi signal), its fair game but just remember that they're also paying to use that kind of service for their house. What I would suggest doing is asking the neighbor if you could use their wi-fi and donate some money to them to help pay for the service. This way, you could avoid huge problem for everyone in future.

Before I moved to new place, my neighbor was 'stealing' my wi-fi since it didn't have password on it.(Thanks to my stupid room mate who can't figure out how to enable my wireless router signal on her computer.) So what I did was redirecting the neighbor to lolcat repeatably.

Absolutly true, there are newbees to the net that don't bother reading up on how to protect the signal, 1- Password, 2- good encryption, my American neighbor who is a computer expert at Ramstein told me to always encrpt and use letters numbers and symbols, and always be aware of people sitting in front of your house in a car doing what appears to be nothing, in reality, they are using a laptop and stealing your wifi, and those are the ones that are really dangerous, because they steal the signal to do criminal activities in your name, not good at all.
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Default Re: Is it OK to "Steal" My Neighbor's Wi-Fi Signal? - 10-27-2010, 11:10 AM

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OK so the wifi bit was an edit, but let us look at what your special book says in the rest of the verse that WWJDnow was referring to:

Deuteronomy 5:21
Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbours wife, neither shalt thou couet thy neighbours house, his field, or his man seruant, or his maide seruant, his oxe, or his asse, or any thing that is thy neighbours.
It's good to see that you have started to read the KJV, Jo Freddie. Keep at it and you will soon see the error of your ways, repent and become a Wise Christian. That being said, you shouldn't debate with True Christians about what The Bible says as long as you are still an unsaved piece of trash.


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Default Re: Is it OK to "Steal" My Neighbor's Wi-Fi Signal? - 10-27-2010, 02:07 PM

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In this forum I have always pointed out that I have acutely read your special book
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Jo Freddie. Keep at it and you will soon see the error of your ways, repent and become a Wise Christian.
As I said I have read your special book so I know it is a pile of <deleted>
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Not debating, just correcting people who do not understand their own special book.


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Default Re: Is it OK to "Steal" My Neighbor's Wi-Fi Signal? - 10-27-2010, 04:20 PM

IF a neighbors wi-fi signal wanders over into your realm, it is a lost sheep signal. Then Bible must apply, and it doesn't involve the Commandments.
KJV Exodus 22:9 For all manner of trespass, whether it be for ox, for ass, for sheep, for raiment, or for any manner of lost thing, which another challengeth to be his, the cause of both parties shall come before the judges; and whom the judges shall condemn, he shall pay double unto his neighbour.

Note the important part >>> challengeth . The wi-fi signal owner MUST challenge you or "the cause" is not brought before the judges.

It is NOT theft unless the judges condemn you. Then you have to pay double unto your neighbor.

In short, its free and OK unless the neighbor challenges you and it is judged in his favor.
{I make sure no neighbor has the balls to challengeth me about any of their stuff that wanders into my realm.}


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Default Re: Is it OK to "Steal" My Neighbor's Wi-Fi Signal? - 10-27-2010, 04:30 PM

If your neighbour has left their WiFi router so that anyone can use it, then the chances are they have probably also neglected to change the default Admin pass word, so be a good neighbour and log in to the router and secure it for them. As you don't know what devices should be using it, it might be best to lock everything out (apart from yourself as you would then have turned the router into a brick). You can let them know what you have done once you get back from your three month cruse.


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Default Re: Is it OK to "Steal" My Neighbor's Wi-Fi Signal? - 10-27-2010, 05:58 PM

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If your neighbour has left their WiFi router so that anyone can use it, then the chances are they have probably also neglected to change the default Admin pass word, so be a good neighbour and log in to the router and secure it for them. As you don't know what devices should be using it, it might be best to lock everything out (apart from yourself as you would then have turned the router into a brick). You can let them know what you have done once you get back from your three month cruse.
That's a good one, I love it!!!, while your there though, somewheres in the middle of the 3 month vaction, log into his PC, and tell it to reformatt, that's even much better, then call him and ask if he was smart enough to back up all his impotant things on an external drive, lol, lol, lol, lol.....

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