Originally Posted by Jeremiahtheweeping
With I do respect, this argument seems to be abit inappropriate. Down syndrome is a chromosomal disorder caused by an extra autosome [non-sex related chromosome]. If any of you are wondering, Chromosomes are small protein fibres in the nucleus (brain) of a cell that contains DNA. They act sort of like folders for God's instructions, how to reproduce, how to survive and how to behave. There are countless queries and studies that proves that Down syndrome is not a lifestyle choice. Furthermore, your proposal to punish the sufferers of Down syndrome and their guardians to 'labour camps' is comparable to the Nazi reigme's policy against Semites, by now I am certain you are all acquainted with. Below are links to Down syndrome.
This is a link to wikipedia's description Down syndrome
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This is a link to a credited government credited source.
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I look forward to your response. God bless.
I am also weeping
because while we
know the Bible
and the science
, your education is still deficient in both
. That is about to change right now, as we start to assess your polite but misleading post.
No-one suspects that there would not be something wrong with the chromosomes of a retard representing the Down type. However, what does have to do with the Down syndrome not being a choice? God
has Created everything
(Genesis 1:1) and He can meddle with the chromosomes at the moment of fertilization easily (Revelation 19:6) if He wishes and, apparently, He often does
. It is well-known that chromosome 21
is present in triplicate = trisomy) in the cells of Down syndrome patients. Alternatively, only part of the long arm of chromosome 21 might be translocated
to another chromosome thus giving the appearance of a normal karyotype
that still contains extra material from chromosome 21.
Incidentally, chromosomes are not
"small protein fibres in the nucleus (brain) of a cell". Chromosomes consist of deoxyribonucleic acid
that is twisted around some histone proteins
(that do not
form fibers). Please, try to get your genetics straight.
Now that that's been taken care of, we come to the "lifestyle choice part". There are many choices
by sinners that lead i)
to the birth of a retarded offspring
from healing him.
Choice 1: Sinful ancestors. God
punishes not only the sinners but their progeny up to 4-10 generations
. Thus it is clear the the family of a Down child committed some grievous sins
causing this disorder. Proof:
Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.
A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
Thus, a choice
, perhaps not of the person with the trisomy but still
a choice, a choice of a sinful, revolting lifestyle
somewhere along the bloodline that led to the afflicted child.
Choice 2: To keep on displaying the retard phenotype and ignoring the cure
that would be readily available. Prayer
can cure anything, if the person asking for the cure is a True Believer™
. I, for instance, have been down with the flue quite a few times, but I've always recovered after adequate prayer. Proof:
And the Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you.
It is heartbreaking
that the people close to the Down child refuse
to help it with prayer
. In case they have prayed, the lack of success shows without any doubt that they were not
Real Christians™. Proof:
Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.
Those are the choices.
A choice of a sinful lifestyle
followed by choices to keep up this lifestyle
even if it could be cured immediately. Only by exposing these sorry individuals to the Bible
and God's Word
can we help them! Still, whatever the outcome, it is all for God's Glory
, it is always Good
as it is the Will of Jesus!
But thou, O LORD, shalt laugh at them; thou shalt have all the heathen in derision.
Originally Posted by Joanna Lytton-Vasey
Well, I don't think any of us were
wondering, but the idea of God needing folders to keep His instructions in sounds dangerously like heresy to me.
Dear Sister, let us give this sinner the benefit of doubt
, as there is an actual folder of information
on how to "reproduce, survive, and behave"!
I do not have very high hopes for this person, but I'm still praying for him despite his feeble fallacies
, such as the Hitler Card
Yours in Christ,