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Dear Dutch friend:
Where did you get the quantity 3.14? Is that what your Dutch mistranslation of the Bible says? The KJV says the following:
1 Kings 7:23: And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: [it was] round all about, and his height [was] five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.
That sounds like a factor of 3, not 3.14.
Gravity is just a theory. Have you ever seen or held one of these gravitational vectors, or are you just taking the word of your Dutch scientists? We know that it's Jesus who holds everything together:
Colossians 1:17: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
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3.14 is a shortened version of
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or http://zenwerx.com/pi.php
Gravity is not a theory have you ever fallen and how do you think satellites obit the Earth and Gravity is the bending of space-time by mass or mass in motion.
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Re: If the earth is flat... -
10-26-2007, 12:27 AM
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Gravity is not a theory have you ever fallen
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I have indeed, although unlike you I've never fallen from grace with God. Have you ever heard of Intelligent Falling Theory?
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and how do you think satellites obit the Earth
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Do they? Have you ever seen one orbit all the way around, or are you just relying on the tired, lazy stereotypes of the liberal media?
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and Gravity is the bending of space-time by mass or mass in motion.
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Are you another Dutchman? Bendy time certainly sounds like double-Dutch to me.
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10-26-2007, 12:32 AM
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I have indeed, although unlike you I've never fallen from grace with God. Have you ever heard of Intelligent Falling Theory?
Do they? Have you ever seen one orbit all the way around, or are you just relying on the tired, lazy stereotypes of the liberal media?
Are you another Dutchman? Bendy time certainly sounds like double-Dutch to me.
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They would be be able to obbit a uneven object and have you every been in a inter continental plane does the earth have a edge on it?
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10-26-2007, 12:37 AM
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They would be be able to obbit a uneven object and have you every been in a inter continental plane does the earth have a edge on it?
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Is that Flemish or what, then? Are you trying to tell us you're an uneven hobbit?
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Re: If the earth is flat... -
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They would be be able to obbit a uneven object and have you every been in a inter continental plane does the earth have a edge on it?
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If the earth is "round" like you claim what keeps us from falling off with your "gravity theory"
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Re: If the earth is flat... -
10-26-2007, 12:42 AM
Nirvash: 3.14 is a shortened version of...
Our own Dr. Ville has calculated PI to 4.5 billion decimal places. Read about it here. This topic has already been settled.
Nirvash: Gravity is not a theory have you ever fallen and how do you think satellites obit the Earth and Gravity is the bending of space-time by mass or mass in motion.
Ha! If gravity is true then how do the stars stay up there?
You stupid science believers crack me up.
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10-26-2007, 01:07 AM
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Is that Flemish or what, then? Are you trying to tell us you're an uneven hobbit?
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I am a United States citizen born here. Please do not go down to insults.
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If the earth is "round" like you claim what keeps us from falling off with your "gravity theory"
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Gravity pulls thing closer so if the wold is round every would have grafity going to the center so you can not fall off.
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Nirvash: 3.14 is a shortened version of...
Our own Dr. Ville has calculated PI to 4.5 billion decimal places. Read about it here. This topic has already been settled.
Nirvash: Gravity is not a theory have you ever fallen and how do you think satellites obit the Earth and Gravity is the bending of space-time by mass or mass in motion.
Ha! If gravity is true then how do the stars stay up there?
You stupid science believers crack me up.
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I would like to see the program that made that.
Starts are light years away so they a not effected by our small planet and most of them are millions times bigger than us so we would not effect them.
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10-26-2007, 01:10 AM
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Why can't you speak English? Are you an Injun or what?
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Gravity pulls thing closer so if the wold is round every would have grafity going to the center so you can not fall off.
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According to "science", things with more mass have more gravity, and the sun's bigger than the earth. So how come we've not been sucked into the sun by so-called "gravity" yet, eh?
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10-26-2007, 02:30 AM
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Why can't you speak English? Are you an Injun or what?
According to "science", things with more mass have more gravity, and the sun's bigger than the earth. So how come we've not been sucked into the sun by so-called "gravity" yet, eh?
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And why do you say i can not speak?
The energy of us moving forwards is equal to the gravity that the sun has that affects us.
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10-26-2007, 02:38 AM
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The energy of us moving forwards is equal to the gravity that the sun has that affects us.
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And from where does this energy that, according to you, moves us forward - come?
Maybe there is a whole bunch of invisible sky-monkeys pushing the earth forward, you silly monkey-worshipper?
First off, the earth doesn't move.
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Second, if it did.. It'd probably move as the scientists say it does -
AROUND THE SUN. (Not forward, as forward is a straight line from A to B, fool.)
So the question remains, why doesn't we get sucked into the sun?
And a better question yet, why doesn't the objects free of the earth get sucked into the sun?
How come those satelites, space-stations and what not that the scientists have put up there doesn't get sucked into the sun then?
WHO OR WHAT IS PUSHING THEM FORWARD?
And why doesn't the earth outrun them if we it keeps moving forward ceaselessly?
Admit it, you have no idea, and haven't thought this through.
You simply believe what you're told, you have been brainwashed by a false religion.
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10-26-2007, 02:46 AM
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And from where does this energy that, according to you, moves us forward - come?
Maybe there is a whole bunch of invisible sky-monkeys pushing the earth forward, you silly monkey-worshipper?
First off, the earth doesn't move.
The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty;
The LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself:
The world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.
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Second, if it did.. It'd probably move as the scientists say it does -
AROUND THE SUN. (Not forward, as forward is a straight line from A to B, fool.)
So the question remains, why doesn't we get sucked into the sun?
And a better question yet, why doesn't the objects free of the earth get sucked into the sun?
How come those satelites, space-stations and what not that the scientists have put up there doesn't get sucked into the sun then?
WHO OR WHAT IS PUSHING THEM FORWARD?
And why doesn't the earth outrun them if we it keeps moving forward ceaselessly?
Admit it, you have no idea, and haven't thought this through.
You simply believe what you're told, you have been brainwashed by a false religion.
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They are moving because they are falling into the Earth gravity but they are far enough to stay up from there energy from moving forward but that forward momentum is canceled out by the earths gravity, yet there is still some left that makes it orbit the earth. I answered why we do not get sucked in and satellites stay because they 1 are orbiting us 2 do not have the mass needed to be pull by the sun strongly.
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Re: If the earth is flat... -
10-26-2007, 02:59 AM
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Gravity pulls thing closer so if the wold is round every would have grafity going to the center so you can not fall off.
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Yes, friend. I understand you "theory" says we do that but it sounds to me we would just fall off the Earth to the center of the universe. I find your' argument unconvincing. Christian Science has shown with Intelligent Falling that God sends His angels to keep everything going right. Gravity may have been an appropriate and fine theory for the Age of Colonialism when Newton proposed it but in my opinion it is time to move with the times.
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Re: If the earth is flat... -
10-26-2007, 03:00 AM
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They are moving because they are falling into the Earth gravity
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So they are moving..
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but they are far enough to stay up from there energy from moving forward but that forward momentum is canceled out by the earths gravity,
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And yet they aren't moving?
I can see what you're getting at though, but you've already shown why your theories are nonsensical:
If what you're saying is true (especially combined with your ridiculous estimation of how old the earth is!) then the moon should have fallen on our heads already.
As energy cannot be created - it is bound to run out.
No movement can last forever, and the more forces impairing it's ability at free movement, the sooner it's movement will cease alltogether.
And when that happens, the moon would fall down on the earth like a meteor.
But has it?
No, because your theories is nonsense.
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See above.
You admit then, that this energy will run out-
Or rather, would have done so already if this was true.
Now, do the earth have more or less "forward-pushing" energy than the moon has?
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Not quite.
And you still haven't answered what gave the earth the energy to move forward in the first place.
Where does all this energy come from?
Also, if gravity increases with mass and density, and gravity sucks things into it..
How could the universe have started in a super-dense singularity as you foolish people believe?
Your own "rules" would indicate that such a thing is impossible.
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Yes, friend. I understand you "theory" says we do that but it sounds to me we would just fall off the Earth to the center of the universe. I find your' argument unconvincing. Christian Science has shown with Intelligent Falling that God sends His angels to keep everything going right. Gravity may have been an appropriate and fine theory for the Age of Colonialism when Newton proposed it but in my opinion it is time to move with the times.
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Gravity dissipates as you add distance so the rest of the universe does not affect us alot
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Yes friend, I am sure you're faltering theory claims that. If you were a little open minded and not blinded by your Newtonian dogma you would see the issue more open to doubt.
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10-26-2007, 03:27 AM
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Yes friend, I am sure you're faltering theory claims that. If you were a little open minded and not blinded by your Newtonian dogma you would see the issue more open to doubt.
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Yes, exactly brother.
How would you know this for a fact, Nutwash?
You have nothing but blind belief.. And in man too.
Don't you think it would be better if you put your trust in allmighty God instead of fallible man?
I mean, shouldn't He know these things better.
Of course He would, and you can't be so blind that you cannot see that.
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10-26-2007, 05:48 AM
For it is written that science is a bad thing ...
1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
1 Timothy 6:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.
... but the Word of the Lord is good!
2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Hmmm, looks like your 'science' theory just kinda falls flat, doesn't it Nervish?
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Re: If the earth is flat... -
10-26-2007, 10:20 AM
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And why do you say i can not speak?
The energy of us moving forwards is equal to the gravity that the sun has that affects us.
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Did the Great Spirit tell you that? Why don't you just put down your peace pipe and accept Jesus today?
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I wish you idiots here at landover would stop using things invented by good atheist scientists and become ahmish. You all should test the theory of gravity. Climb to the roof of your house and jump off. If you fall and die then the theory of gravity is true, if you jump and yahweh saves you then your god is real.
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10-26-2007, 11:58 AM
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You know what doesn't dissipate as you add distance? God's wrath, that's what. So stop worshiping "science" and get right with Jesus instead, before it's too late.
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I wish you idiots here at landover would stop using things invented by good atheist scientists and become ahmish. You all should test the theory of gravity. Climb to the roof of your house and jump off. If you fall and die then the theory of gravity is true, if you jump and yahweh saves you then your god is real.
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That is straight from the devil himself:
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