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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-02-2012, 09:32 AM
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Why are you doubting His words?
That's what the Bible says. Can't you read?
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Your childish reasoning based on one line of scripture is completely shown to be false by,
Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Now go away and read all of the Bible properly,
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-02-2012, 09:35 AM
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Why are you doubting His words?
That's what the Bible says. Can't you read?
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Are you so retarded that you can't recognize a rhetorical question?
Lay off the weed.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-02-2012, 09:47 AM
You guys are all really stupid. I've been looking at your site just to see how ridiculous it is. There are so many ways I can prove you wrong. You claim the Earth to be flat, even thought it can be seen as a sphere from space. You're also homophobes. It's such a small part of the bible. The bible also tells us to stone disobedient children, but do you do that? And science has literally PROVEN almost everything in the bible wrong. Seriously guys, it's 2012, get with the times. I'm not saying you shouldn't believe in god, you just shouldn't follow every single word of the bible. And what the hell is with the "Tell her once" badge? That's just piffleed up. You're just incredibly intolerant, ignorant assholes. You take everything new and interpret it as an embodiment of Satan. Get with the times already.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-02-2012, 11:34 AM
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Your childish reasoning based on one line of scripture is completely shown to be false by,
Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Now go away and read all of the Bible properly,
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So you are saying that bible isn't 100% true? It says unequivocally that God let evolution happen. Why are you contradicting yourselves?
Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Genesis 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-02-2012, 01:44 PM
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Are you so retarded that you can't recognize a rhetorical question?
Lay off the weed.
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Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Genesis 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-02-2012, 03:23 PM
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So you are saying that bible isn't 100% true? It says unequivocally that God let evolution happen. Why are you contradicting yourselves?
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No, Jack is saying that your reasoning is false.
You are just cherry picking. The Bible must be taken as whole. And remember, there is not a single contradiction there.
Example:
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Exodus 20:13 - Thou shalt not kill.
John 13:34-35 - A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. 35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
If you read these scriptures, you can use them to prove that homosexuals must be killed, or you can say that in any circumstances you should not kill. And you should love all people.
But only if you start to interpret them.
If you take the bible to the letter, everything applies. First of all, you shall not kill anybody, BUT THERE IS AN EXCEPTION (actually, there are other exceptions, but these are other scriptures) THAT IS GAYSEXUALS. So the third tells as to love one another as I loved you. That means that Jesus gives you tough love. If you are gaysexual, he loves you enough to kill you!
So we have the command to give tough loving to the gaysexuals and kill them like Jesus would. Why aren't we doing it?
1 Peter 2:13 - Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
We need to respect the secular laws too. Even if they sometimes seem to contradict the Bible. We just have to trust the Lord that he will punish the evildoers.
As you can see, you cherry picket one scripture to support your claims and Jack provide you another that shows your reasoning to be false.
I think you need to apologize now.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-02-2012, 03:40 PM
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No, Jack is saying that your reasoning is false.
You are just cherry picking. The Bible must be taken as whole. And remember, there is not a single contradiction there.
Example:
Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Exodus 20:13 - Thou shalt not kill.
John 13:34-35 - A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. 35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
If you read these scriptures, you can use them to prove that homosexuals must be killed, or you can say that in any circumstances you should not kill. And you should love all people.
But only if you start to interpret them.
If you take the bible to the letter, everything applies. First of all, you shall not kill anybody, BUT THERE IS AN EXCEPTION (actually, there are other exceptions, but these are other scriptures) THAT IS GAYSEXUALS. So the third tells as to love one another as I loved you. That means that Jesus gives you tough love. If you are gaysexual, he loves you enough to kill you!
So we have the command to give tough loving to the gaysexuals and kill them like Jesus would. Why aren't we doing it?
1 Peter 2:13 - Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
We need to respect the secular laws too. Even if they sometimes seem to contradict the Bible. We just have to trust the Lord that he will punish the evildoers.
As you can see, you cherry picket one scripture to support your claims and Jack provide you another that shows your reasoning to be false.
I think you need to apologize now.
YiC, M
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And you are just ignoring this vital evidence from the Bible supporting evolution. You are the cherry picker here.
Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Genesis 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-02-2012, 04:41 PM
There's no evidence proving evolution in the Bible. You're interpreting like crazy because you want the Bible to say something that agrees with what you've made up inside your head.
Why are you so desperate to follow secular values? Could it be so you can ignore things like laws against fornicating?
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-03-2012, 03:50 AM
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And you are just ignoring this vital evidence from the Bible supporting evolution. You are the cherry picker here.
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Post the Scriptures that back you up. I want to see the parts of the Bible that say that we're related to gorillas.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-03-2012, 09:36 PM
Aren't there aspects of the theory of evolution covered in the bible?
e.g.,
Adam and Noah - proving that we are all descended from a common ancestor.
Shem, Ham, and Japheth - being the fathers of different nations lends to the evolutionist theory of 'random mutation' being that an entirely new species is created from an offspring having different characteristics from it's parents.
Genesis 9:18-19 And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan. These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.
How many different races are there on earth? doesn't evolution have to occur in some way, shape, or form for them all to have come from three ancestors?
I'm not saying the theory of evolution is 100% correct but arent there parts of it that are backed up by scripture.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-03-2012, 09:39 PM
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Aren't there aspects of the theory of evolution covered in the bible?
e.g.,
Adam and Noah - proving that we are all descended from a common ancestor.
Shem, Ham, and Japheth - being the fathers of different nations lends to the evolutionist theory of 'random mutation' being that an entirely new species is created from an offspring having different characteristics from it's parents.
Genesis 9:18-19 And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan. These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.
How many different races are there on earth? doesn't evolution have to occur in some way, shape, or form for them all to have come from three ancestors?
I'm not saying the theory of evolution is 100% correct but arent there parts of it that are backed up by scripture.
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You're saying monkeys are descended from Noah? You're crazy! Next you'll be saying those random ginger people are a race.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-03-2012, 09:42 PM
did I mention monkeys?
For those who pretend to know the will of God- Romans 1:21-23 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-03-2012, 09:45 PM
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did I mention monkeys?
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You were doing that whole evolution common ancestor thing and I glazed over because it usually means monkeys.
Look, friend, Noah and his sons and sundry womenfolk are our forefathers because they are the only humans to survive the flood, not to give credence to Darwin the worm botherer.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-03-2012, 09:49 PM
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Aren't there aspects of the theory of evolution covered in the bible?
e.g.,
Adam and Noah - proving that we are all descended from a common ancestor.
Shem, Ham, and Japheth - being the fathers of different nations lends to the evolutionist theory of 'random mutation' being that an entirely new species is created from an offspring having different characteristics from it's parents.
Genesis 9:18-19 And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan. These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.
How many different races are there on earth? doesn't evolution have to occur in some way, shape, or form for them all to have come from three ancestors?
I'm not saying the theory of evolution is 100% correct but arent there parts of it that are backed up by scripture.
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You seemed to of skipped a bit. Adam and Eve were the first regular people (first, not only) soon thereafter, God created servants to tend to them. You make it sound like bugs are evolved from people !!!!!
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-03-2012, 09:55 PM
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...You make it sound like bugs are evolved from people !!!!!
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not my intention, my main point was about Ham, Shem and Japheth. if they are everyones forefathers then all human races 'evolved' from them.
For those who pretend to know the will of God- Romans 1:21-23 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-03-2012, 09:58 PM
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not my intention, my main point was about Ham, Shem and Japheth. if they are everyones forefathers then all human races 'evolved' from them.
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Descended from them...
Try to focus on what actually happened instead of using wrong words and expecting us to see significance in them.
It's like saying "walked on the moon" when you actually mean "conspired with secularists to pretend the moon is another world"
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-03-2012, 10:07 PM
uh huh, try and follow my logic instead of assuming I'm a Darwinist conspirator. If all races are descended from them then all races are descended from those 3 men... in fact all from one man, noah being father of all three... tho I suppose the races of wives and such are not mentioned.
For those who pretend to know the will of God- Romans 1:21-23 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-03-2012, 10:12 PM
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uh huh, try and follow my logic instead of assuming I'm a Darwinist conspirator. If all races are descended from them then all races are descended from those 3 men... in fact all from one man, noah being father of all three... tho I suppose the races of wives and such are not mentioned.
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Why so obsessed with race? For starters we know Ham was the forefather of the Canaanites due to his sin of tittle tattling about his drunken and naked father. Various other racial origins of note are mentioned such as the birth of the Moabites and Ammonites from the horrific rape of their drunken father by Lot's daughters.
Similar things based on sin and debauchery too irrelevant to mention due to a lack of obsessive pedants such as yourself back in the day must also have happened to spawn the other lesser races.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-03-2012, 10:17 PM
uh huh you're talking about 'random mutation' you realise, although it would be less random and more by Gods will. As such wouldn't that make evolution a tool of God.
And I'm obseessed with race because this is a thread about evolution, hard not to talk about it.
For those who pretend to know the will of God- Romans 1:21-23 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
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Re: A guide to the evolutionist conspiracy -
01-03-2012, 10:30 PM
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uh huh you're talking about 'random mutation' you realise, although it would be less random and more by Gods will. As such wouldn't that make evolution a tool of God.
And I'm obseessed with race because this is a thread about evolution, hard not to talk about it.
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You're actually serious about this? I thought you were joking or something.
You think God makes evolution happen on the basis of the actual fact that there are now races but they are all descended from a few flood survivors?
What kind of warped mind tries to base a theory of racial origin on such tenuous stuff when I just gave you all the evidence you need to see that the forefathers of various races are distinguished by some deed or iniquity.
Abraham, great favourite of God, passed test when asked to sacrifice own son, spawns Israel.
Lot, had drunken sex with own daughters, spawns doomed-to-genocide-at-hands-of Israelites races Moabites and Ammonites.
Why can you not see the pattern?
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