[Art Speir]

Originally Posted by Larni69

By hitting their husbands they are punching Christ in the face

If that is so then why do they teach women self defence?

Originally Posted by Larni69

These women are like dirty joos

Why do you spell Jews that way? I am just curious.

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by Art Speir

I'm sure they won't, besides knowing them if they are even hit by their husbands they would strike back. They are trained in Karate and even in Karate classes they tell women to protect themselves and they will.

Then they will burn in Hell and it will be all your fault.

[Art Speir]

Originally Posted by Redeemed Papist

Then they will burn in Hell and it will be all your fault.

I am curious, how would it be my fault? I didn't have anything to do with them choosing to take self defense. It was my parents who suggested it for them.

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by Art Speir

I am curious, how would it be my fault? I didn't have anything to do with them choosing to take self defense. It was my parents who suggested it for them.

And you didn't tell them to get out of your life for suggesting your daughters joined forces with Satan in ripping apart the fabric of our once proud Christian family values. You stood aside and let them damn your little girls to endless torment. What a lack of responsibility and moral fibre.

Shame on you!

[Art Speir]

Originally Posted by Redeemed Papist

And you didn't tell them to get out of your life for suggesting your daughters joined forces with Satan in ripping apart the fabric of our once proud Christian family values. You stood aside and let them damn your little girls to endless torment. What a lack of responsibility and moral fibre.

Shame on you!

How can i be shamed if I hadn't found Christianity until the past couple days. I didn't know about the word or anything before now. My parents raised us to follow our own paths, it had never been pushed on me or my older sisters. They continue with my younger brothers as well. They do not know God or Jesus. I was not raised a Christian so how would I know any values? As I mentioned in my introduction, all of this is new to me.

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by Art Speir

How can i be shamed if I hadn't found Christianity until the past couple days. I didn't know about the word or anything before now. My parents raised us to follow our own paths, it had never been pushed on me or my older sisters. They continue with my younger brothers as well. They do not know God or Jesus. I was not raised a Christian so how would I know any values? As I mentioned in my introduction, all of this is new to me.

How does that matter? Sin is sin. You're going to have to come to terms with your part in damning your daughters. The thought of them writhing in torment should drive you on to try to be saved. For starters stop asking all these damn fool questions and read your Bible. There you will see the wonder and glory of God's will and His compassionate framework for you to not be burned forever but to live forever with Him in glory.

Numbers 15:15 One ordinance shall be both for you of the congregation, and also for the stranger that sojourneth with you, an ordinance for ever in your generations: as ye are, so shall the stranger be before the LORD.

Numbers 15:29 Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them.

[Art Speir]

Oh I see how it is, you cannot answer my questions or are too lazy to. When someone looking to convert to a new religion should be able to ask questions and get answers from others of the same religion. You are not being very helpful.

Oh and there are several things I would love to say. I am done being the nice guy.

My first daughter, guess what she isn't really mine but i treat her like she is. My wife was raped as a teenager and she is one of my best friends. When I married her years later, it didn't bother me that she already had a child. You say men don't want "damaged goods" you have got to be kidding me. There are many men who accept a woman who already has children I am one and I know several others. It's the 21st century people, it happens. I love my wife and my three daughters (for your information: my three year old and one year old look exactly like me, yes they are mine).

Did you know that Goddess worship happened long before Christianity? Bet you didn't, you really do not do the research like you say you do. Christianity was created in fear because men were afraid of the power women had. Woman have the ability to give life, without them no one would be here. Men are cowards that's why they wrote these so called "stories" to give themselves more power. All most want is power, it's how we are.

Did you also know that the lost bible chapters, were mostly about how women actually did play a bigger role in Christianity? But in fear they discarded them for the reasons I mentioned in the previous paragraph, power.

Oh and by the way you are all childish and pathetic.

-first of all the word "noobs" that is a gamer word for new people. Real religious sites would not be using that in any way.

-"Peed and pooped" that just makes you sound like a 10 year old boy.

-You tend to pick and chose what you want to answer which is extremely annoying. People come here to ask questions and get answers about the religion itself and God, believe it or not some of them are possibly new to the subject and do not own a bible.

-Oh and using "Joo" in place of Jews, also seems childish. What are you too afraid to use the actual word? Did you know Christianity was a branch off of Judaism (Jews). And want to know something very interesting: in the Jewish religion they believe someone is only a true Jew if their mother was, research, it's a lovely thing. But I'm pretty sure you are too closed minded to look up anything that's different, which makes you seem ignorant.

-Seriously, what school did you people go to? And don't give me "Good Christian school" because I know people who have been to Christian and Catholic schools and they are nothing like any of you claim to be. Their children play "Pretend" games, both girls and boys are into sports as well as several other things. Most of them do not hit their spouses or children since both should be based on love, if they do something wrong they are talked to about it to understand it. Some of this makes me wonder what century you think you are from.

-My daughters are being raised to be strong woman just like my wife and sisters. I will allow them to make their own choices. My Oldest is in Karate classes with her aunts because she was being bullied in school. We wanted her to be able to protect herself there where neither me nor her mother can be since we both also have jobs.

-My wife is Native American, does that surprise anyone? And in their beliefs both men and women have things to get done, but women are respected because Mother Earth gave them the ability to give life, without it no one would be here. Men protect their wives from harm and don't harm them themselves. The whole family enjoys spending time outside in nature as much as we can.

-Oh and by the way I am a man who is a chef, I can cook. OH MY GOSH! My wife and I take turns cooking, usually whoever is home first.

-Oh and last but not least: how the heck do several of you not know what a Fawn is? You have got to be kidding me.

-There is so much more I could say but i feel this is more than enough for your closed mindedness and Ignorance. Ban me for all I care at least I have research at least I know what century it is and that you all must be trolls or something.

That's it I am done, Oh and by the way I'm Pagan. THE INSANITY!

[Redeemed Papist]

So you pretended to be interested in Christianity but then sprung a carefully crafted trap and revealed you are a heathen with an agenda.

That's original. Well done. You had us fooled. Never before has someone come up with such a dastardly plan.

The advice still stands. Go and read a Bible if you want to see how hypocritical false Christians are and how honest we are.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by Art Speir

Oh I see how it is, you cannot answer my questions or are too lazy to.

Oh fercryingoutloud.

You're just depressed because no one here wants to stroke your ego and throw a party because you've arrived, ready to "save" us with your logic and cunning.

Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
Proverbs 16:18

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

Originally Posted by Art Speir

Oh I see how it is, you cannot answer my questions or are too lazy to. When someone looking to convert to a new religion should be able to ask questions and get answers from others of the same religion. You are not being very helpful.

I don't really know what to tell you, friend. We've pointed you at the Guidebook (the Bible, in case you missed it), and we've asked you to put in a token amount of work: to read it! We aren't here to read the whole thing to you! You see, unlike so many other False christians (note the small "c"), we believe the whole Bible. If we only believed a small fraction of it like most so-called Christians, we could sit here and tell you "God Loves You (John 3:16)!" and everything would be simple! But unfortunately we don't know if that is true. We are all very busy people with very important jobs, so we can't be walking you through the ins-and-outs of Deuteronomy, walk you through the intricate genealogies, etc. That we leave to you! We make our Pastors available for questions on the trickier issues that require the guiding hand of someone who has achieved the pinnacle of faith, but for the most part, we ask that you at least do your own reading of the Bible--and the entire Bible, not just the feel-good parts.

Originally Posted by Art Speir

Oh and there are several things I would love to say. I am done being the nice guy.

By all means, we encourage you to bare all. This is not a place of judgment, it is a place for like-minded Christians to be open and honest with each other.

Originally Posted by Art Speir

My first daughter, guess what she isn't really mine but i treat her like she is. My wife was raped as a teenager and she is one of my best friends. When I married her years later, it didn't bother me that she already had a child.

Well for starters, if you had read your Bible you would know that you are living in sin. Unfortunately, that is not exactly the recipe for success, in God's (and our) eye(s). If you had read the Bible, specifically Deuteronomy 22:28-29, you would know that God requires that a rapist marry the raped woman:

Originally Posted by Deuteronomy 22:28-29

28If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;

29Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

Now, if you are the man who raped your wife, then I commend you for doing the Godly thing! However, I suspect that you are just some other man who came along to steal another man's wife, meaning that you are complicit in adultery. I know this may come as a shock to you, but remember: you are here to learn God's Plan for you, and sometimes God's Plan doesn't match our plans.

Not to mention the severe harm you are doing to that poor child, whose father has been rudely shunted aside for you. Your wife has chosen carnal pleasures over the Biblical path laid out for her, and the true victim here is the child. She probably barely even knows her father, and instead has the cheap knock-off substitute: you.

Originally Posted by Art Speir

You say men don't want "damaged goods" you have got to be kidding me. There are many men who accept a woman who already has children I am one and I know several others. It's the 21st century people, it happens. I love my wife and my three daughters (for your information: my three year old and one year old look exactly like me, yes they are mine).

I'm not sure if you meant it this way, but saying "It's the 21st century" is no argument. We Christians know that the world is due to degenerate into depravity as years go by, so by using "It's the 21st century" as an excuse, you are merely acknowledging the moral decay in society.

I think by "damaged goods", we simply mean that no good, upstanding American would want to marry someone who should be married to someone else. You stole a man's wife, and stealing is wrong. Even our secular laws in this country support that!

Originally Posted by Art Speir

Did you know that Goddess worship happened long before Christianity? Bet you didn't, you really do not do the research like you say you do. Christianity was created in fear because men were afraid of the power women had. Woman have the ability to give life, without them no one would be here. Men are cowards that's why they wrote these so called "stories" to give themselves more power. All most want is power, it's how we are.

How does one ever start to make this stuff up?! Friend, we don't engage in hysterical, mystical (mysterical?!) beliefs here. It appears you've fallen for the "New Age" trap, that women are really the ones with the power, that men fear them for some reason, etc. This is patently ridiculous. I think you've spent a little too much time with your damaged wife and started to believe some of her nonsense. Pull yourself together, sir!

If you want to talk witches and spells and whatnot, there are plenty of other websites you can visit. However, if you want to talk Salvation and Redemption, you've come to the right place

Originally Posted by Art Speir

Did you also know that the lost bible chapters, were mostly about how women actually did play a bigger role in Christianity? But in fear they discarded them for the reasons I mentioned in the previous paragraph, power.

Lost Bible chapters? This is a myth that is trotted out every so often to try to create doubt about the Bible. As you've read here on this very board, the 1611 King James Version of the Bible is the complete Word of God. There are no mistakes, there are no "missing books", there are no further revelations from God that can be added. Anyone claiming otherwise is simply picking and choosing what they want the Bible to be.

Not to mention that you are clearly being dishonest. Perhaps you've never heard of the books of Esther and Ruth? Both women were influential in the Bible, and in shaping our faith. If you had read the Bible as we have told you time and again, you wouldn't spout this nonsense! Women play a vital role in the Bible, and I am surprised that you haven't heard this, considering that you seem so in-tune with women's issues....

It appears that you aren't happy with the God of the Bible, so you are attempting to create one of your own: adding books in willy-nilly in an attempt to shape God into one of your own choosing.

If we allowed that, what would stop every person from constructing one of their own fancy? If we did that, we'd turn into Hindus with millions of gods! No, my friend, there is One True God, who exists in three parts: the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.

Originally Posted by Art Speir

Oh and by the way you are all childish and pathetic.

Now this is no way to treat your hosts here. We have all been very patient, listening to your "arguments" and trying to coax you to read the Bible. How is that childish, or pathetic? Unless perhaps you meant to insult our faith, calling our faith childish, in which case I say..... Thank you! As the Lord tells us in Luke 18:17:

Originally Posted by Luke 18:17

17Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.

Indeed we are childish, in that sense. We unquestioningly believe every Word that proceeds from the Bible, and believe it 100%. However, I must object to your claims that we are pathetic. We are merely a simple breed, us True Christians, who live only to learn more of our God and strive to be like Him. If that is pathetic, then sure, call us pathetic. But I assure you, when Judgment Day comes, we will be rejoicing and you will be watching from a much, much hotter place.

Originally Posted by Art Speir

-first of all the word "noobs" that is a gamer word for new people. Real religious sites would not be using that in any way.

"Noobs" is a word that is a shortened version of "newbies", referring to someone who is new to a certain area. In this sense, you are new both to Christianity and to our Forums. If the shoe fits....

Originally Posted by Art Speir

-"Peed and pooped" that just makes you sound like a 10 year old boy.

We maintain a family-friendly board here, safe for all ages from 10 to 100. In that sense we use words that are appropriate for all ages. We ask that you abide by these rules as long as you are here.

Originally Posted by Art Speir

-You tend to pick and chose what you want to answer which is extremely annoying. People come here to ask questions and get answers about the religion itself and God, believe it or not some of them are possibly new to the subject and do not own a bible.

We have told you where the "answers section" is! What more do you want?? The answers you seek are found in the Bible, and yet you continue to ignore our instructions. We have been nothing but patient and kind with you, and you continue to ask inane questions that are easily answered by a complete study of the Word of God. Don't push your frustrations out on us: you are the one who refuses to do the work! There are many, many places to read the Bible! I suggest BibleGateway.com as a start: it's free, they have the King James Version, and it is easily accessible on your iPhone, iPad or droid!

Originally Posted by Art Speir

-Oh and using "Joo" in place of Jews, also seems childish. What are you too afraid to use the actual word? Did you know Christianity was a branch off of Judaism (Jews). And want to know something very interesting: in the Jewish religion they believe someone is only a true Jew if their mother was, research, it's a lovely thing. But I'm pretty sure you are too closed minded to look up anything that's different, which makes you seem ignorant.

Clearly "Joo" is known as a nickname for "Jew" as anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows. We like to play around here a little bit, and this is just sort of an "inside joke" around these parts. If it offends you, then I suggest you lighten up a little bit--none of our formerly Jewish members have ever raised a complaint! We also occasionally like to refer to our colored members as "tar babies"--I assume you find that offensive also ?

And as for not knowing anything about Jewish religion, that is patently false. We have many experts here at Landover who are well-versed in the Jewish traditions, holidays, tax evasion, etc. The Jewish faith is no different from Muslims, Buddhists or Eskimos: they are all false religions followed by a deceived group of people. Our job here on earth is to help them find the One True God who died for them, that they might live eternally with Him.

Originally Posted by Art Speir

-Seriously, what school did you people go to? And don't give me "Good Christian school" because I know people who have been to Christian and Catholic schools and they are nothing like any of you claim to be. Their children play "Pretend" games, both girls and boys are into sports as well as several other things. Most of them do not hit their spouses or children since both should be based on love, if they do something wrong they are talked to about it to understand it. Some of this makes me wonder what century you think you are from.

Personally, I was home-schooled in my formative years, and attended Landover University for both my undergraduate and graduate degrees. I spent a few years at Bob Jones University as a guest lecturer and am a regular guest lecturer at Liberty University.

I think that you might be barking up the wrong tree in comparing us to secular "Christian" schools, as they are usually just schools who like to pick and choose which parts of the Bible they wish to believe and which parts they want to ignore (see: any school run by Episcopalians!). Catholic churches are even worse, since they teach complete nonsense: saints, papal rule, etc. I assure you, our children here at Landover receive a top-notch education without any of the worldly nonsense that you'll find at these other private schools, not to mention public schools!

Originally Posted by Art Speir

-My daughters are being raised to be strong woman just like my wife and sisters. I will allow them to make their own choices. My Oldest is in Karate classes with her aunts because she was being bullied in school. We wanted her to be able to protect herself there where neither me nor her mother can be since we both also have jobs.

Well good for you. Are you also training them to be prefer the fairer sex? Allowing women to make their own choices is like allowing a chicken to roam free: it won't end well for anyone! While I applaud your decision to train them to defend themselves from potential attackers, I suggest you may want to think twice before you teach them to be too self sufficient! They'll self-sufficient themselves right into old-maid-ism!

Originally Posted by Art Speir

-My wife is Native American, does that surprise anyone? And in their beliefs both men and women have things to get done, but women are respected because Mother Earth gave them the ability to give life, without it no one would be here. Men protect their wives from harm and don't harm them themselves. The whole family enjoys spending time outside in nature as much as we can.

Are you just here to try to "shock" us? Some of us Christians are not as naive as you may think. We have a black President, for crying out loud. We've seen it all! Some of our pastors have even done extended ministries in truck-stop bathrooms--they certainly have seen everything! The fact that you married an Indian is the least of our concern! There are hundreds of them hanging around the casinos, just waiting for a proper man to take them home to take care of them!

Also: there you go again with this "Mother Earth" nonsense. Either you're into witchcraft or you're one of them self-avowed "Pagans". Either way, you're clearly missing a few circuits upstairs.

Originally Posted by Art Speir

-Oh and by the way I am a man who is a chef, I can cook. OH MY GOSH! My wife and I take turns cooking, usually whoever is home first.

There is certainly nothing wrong with a man being able to cook! In fact, I like to cook myself up a fine steak with some potato au gratin occasionally! However, the bigger issue is that your wife must know her place: you may cook in place of her occasionally, but it is her duty to keep her man well-fed.

Originally Posted by Art Speir

-Oh and last but not least: how the heck do several of you not know what a Fawn is? You have got to be kidding me.

It's a baby deer, you doorknob. Many of us here are avid hunters, and of course we know what that is.

Originally Posted by Art Speir

-There is so much more I could say but i feel this is more than enough for your closed mindedness and Ignorance. Ban me for all I care at least I have research at least I know what century it is and that you all must be trolls or something.

You have the gall to come to our forums to call us trolls? Usually trolls have some sort of hidden agenda. We have been nothing but open here: encouraging you to read your Bible and to spend some time in prayer, seeking the Lord. Instead you have come here as an avowed non-Christian and are trying to spread your "Mother Earth" nonsense here. And we're the trolls???

Originally Posted by Art Speir

That's it I am done, Oh and by the way I'm Pagan. THE INSANITY!

Boom, called it! Again, are you just here for the shock value? We've had people here try to shock us, posting pictures of transvestites, homosexualism, gore, etc. It doesn't work. We've seen it all. Being proud of being a pagan is a worthless endeavor. I suggest you work on being proud of being a Christian

Friend, I will pray for you. It seems as though you have been hoodwinked by the pagans of this world, who obviously have you eating out of their hands. I pray that God will continue to work in your heart, to open your mind so that you can accept the loving embrace of Jesus in the near future.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Thank you from the bottom of my heart Dr E, for your cogent essay in response to (and you called it) Pangan nonsense.

Your patience in talking to this lost soul is a lesson to us all.

YIC
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[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Art Speir

That's it I am done, Oh and by the way I'm Pagan. THE INSANITY!

Well don't let the forum door hit ya where the good Lord split ya on your way out, demon.

[CommonSensei]

Originally Posted by Joseph McManus

Or maybe I should say God did...felt my hand raise up from my side. The back of my hand connected with her cheek and she screamed "What the f@*% is wrong with you?!!!" Again, as if acting on it's own my arm swung out again and hit her in the face and she was silent, crying on the bed where she had fell...

A man who hits a child or a woman is nothing but a coward. A man who then gives responsibility away to God, is a blasphemer a liar and a coward.

A man who then goes on to congratulate this behaviour is nothing short of a savage, a peasant like golem lacking wits or any sort of Moral fibre.

I pray to God that your "wife" sees the sense of reason and gets far away from you! Before you hurt her or just ruin her life as you have your own.

Sad.

Infact I will pray that she attacks you like a demon smashing the teeth out of your big loud gob. Then I hope she guts you with a rusty rake. Scum.

The reason we need demons, hell and damnation is for guys like you. Jesus will have a field day kicking your cowardly psychotic arse, hopefully whilst your wife watches with popcorn.

[Jack O'fagan]

Originally Posted by CommonSensei

A man who hits a child or a woman is nothing but a coward. A man who then gives responsibility away to God, is a blasphemer a liar and a coward.

I trust you can back up your ramblings with scripture?



Proverbs 22:15
Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

Proverbs 23:13
Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.

Proverbs 23:14
Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

Proverbs 29:15
The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.



Does the word of God embarrass you?

YIC

God

[CommonSensei]

hahah you know nothing of the scriptures, and the only thing that embarrasses me at the moment is the fact that I share 99% of your DNA - I feel closer to a rat in the sewer knowing that than I should.

I don't need Scriptures to order me around. I knew God far before I could read. Something you seem to forget actually, that before YOU could read you also knew God. Seems a long time ago bet you do loads of sinful stuff now and just lie about it.

I read some of it on here actually, so don't deny infront of God he can hear your lies as I can.

You hit your wife and blamed God. You are worse than a maggot for this blaspheming and will surely suffer your mark.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Dear rat-molester,

Please take your "furry" talk elsewhere.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth
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[Jack O'fagan]

Originally Posted by CommonSensei

hahah you know nothing of the scriptures, and the only thing that embarrasses me at the moment is the fact that I share 99% of your DNA - I feel closer to a rat in the sewer knowing that than I should.

I don't need Scriptures to order me around. I knew God far before I could read. Something you seem to forget actually, that before YOU could read you also knew God. Seems a long time ago bet you do loads of sinful stuff now and just lie about it.

I read some of it on here actually, so don't deny infront of God he can hear your lies as I can.

You hit your wife and blamed God. You are worse than a maggot for this blaspheming and will surely suffer your mark.

So what God is it that you knew before you could read? It clearly isn't the God of Abraham, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. You spit in His face when you so easily dismiss His words.

Is it just an imaginary deity in your head that just happens to agree with your own views?

YIC

Jack

[Jack O'fagan]

Originally Posted by CommonSensei

hahah you know nothing of the scriptures, and the only thing that embarrasses me at the moment is the fact that I share 99% of your DNA - I feel closer to a rat in the sewer knowing that than I should.

I don't need Scriptures to order me around. I knew God far before I could read. Something you seem to forget actually, that before YOU could read you also knew God. Seems a long time ago bet you do loads of sinful stuff now and just lie about it.

I read some of it on here actually, so don't deny infront of God he can hear your lies as I can.

You hit your wife and blamed God. You are worse than a maggot for this blaspheming and will surely suffer your mark.

Isn't it odd that when scripture doesn't back up you twisted views then it's the scripture that's wrong and the God in your head knows better.

But when you can find a bit of scripture that you mistakenly think supports you view (such as in the animal pain thread) then scripture amazingly becomes relevant again?

YIC

Jack

[CommonSensei]

Originally Posted by Jack O'fagan

So what God is it that you knew before you could read

Jack

The only one there is. Read your Bible again this time thinking about the words. You make out as if people who cannot read have no path to God. But again you didn't read your Bible properly.

Jesus claims ALL humanity as his children, and claims to LOVE US ALL EVENLY DESPITE OUR HUMANITY. So that means from the first second to the last we are in his palm, with his gaze set upon. I don't fear your tricks devil, I know better.

Infact most people across the world CAN'T read so what you are effectively saying, is that God - only loves those lucky few in the world who

(A) Can read
( Have access to a Bible
© Have the time to read it

Which is less than 15% of the world. Now you show me where in the Bible it says that. It must be at the end of the New testament because I know sure as I know my own name that IT DOES NOT SAY THAT ANYWHERE in The Bible, as you would know.


IF you had read and understood any of it.

[Catherine Moore]

Romans 15:4
2 Thessalonians 2:15
2 Timothy 3:16
Proverbs 4:20-21

To name four that come to mind.

EDIT: Oh my. I'm so sorry. I clicked on this thread without realizing which area of the forum it was on. I'm so sorry - cant seem to delete this post.

I'll be more careful in future.