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Default Re: Catholics - 08-20-2009, 10:03 PM

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I thought that it was called the Baptist religion, but perhaps I'm wrong. My apologies.
I don't follow a religion. I have a relationship with the living God.

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I'm a Presbyterian.
So you believe that we are born sinners, that we don't have to stop sinning to be saved, and if you are saved you can sin as much as you like and still go to Heaven -- is that right?

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Son, I have refrained from answering the posts in this thread because at first, you seemed to have the shifty attitude of an atheist troll. I will risk looking like a fool to answer your post, with a note about something that was mentioned earlier.

We are Independent Baptist KJAV 1611 Bible Literalists. That means that except where doing so would violate secular laws, we follow the entire King James Bible word for word. For example, we do not eat shellfish, as they are referred to in Leviticus as abominations. We do not stone disobedient children to death, as Deuteronomy instructs, because in several places in the KJV 1611, we are told to follow secular laws.

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
Deuteronomy 21:19-21

Many people lump us in with those liberals, the Protestants, simply becaue we are not Catholics.

Our church predates all other Christian churches, so we are a category of one. We are neither Protestant nor Catholic, we are True Christians™ destined to serve for eternity in Heaven when our Lord chooses to take us.

I hope that clears things up a bit.
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So you believe that we are born sinners, that we don't have to stop sinning to be saved, and if you are saved you can sin as much as you like and still go to Heaven -- is that right?

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So are you going to set up a tithing plan, then?
No, what are you, a dirty Jew?
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No, what are you, a dirty Jew?
Of course not (well, not any more, anyway).
That's why I wouldn't try to Jew God.

Malachi 3:8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.


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Of course not (well, not any more, anyway).
That's why I wouldn't try to Jew God.

Malachi 3:8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
I don't know, that sounds like Serbian-Jew double bluff to me.
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I don't know, that sounds like Serbian-Jew double bluff to me.
Try explaining that to God as He dropkicks you into the Lake of Fire for all eternity for being a tightwad, friend. Are you a Scottish Presbyterian, by any chance?


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Something along those lines sounds about right.
Then you might as well be a Catholic, because they believe the same lies you do.

We are not born sinners (Eccl. 7:29, Mt 18:3). Sin is not something you are born with, it is something you do (I John 3:4). You can only sin through an intentional act (Gen. 3:6; 1 Sam. 16:7; Pro. 23:7; Matt. 5:28; 23:26; Mk. 7:20-23; Ro. 14:23; 1 Co. 8:12; 10:13; Gal. 5:24; Jas. 1:13-16; 1 Jn. 2:15-16; 3:15).

We must stop sinning before we can be forgiven (Pro. 28:13; Isa. 55:7; Jer. 26:13; Ezk. 18:21-23; Jon. 3:8-10; 1 Co. 6:9-10; Gal. 5:19-21; Eph. 5:5-7; Jas. 1:21; 1 Pe. 4:1; Rev. 21:7-8; 22:15). Think about it -- would you expect your wife to forgive you for cheating on her while the other woman is still in your arms? Why would you expect God to forgive you while you are still in your sins?

If you return to sin after you were saved, you will be worse off than someone who was never saved (Matt. 23:14; Lk. 12:47-48; Jn.19:11; Jas. 3:1; Heb. 6:6; 10:26).

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Firstly, I'm not Catholic. Secondly, that wasn't a very Christ-like thing to say.
Would you say that calling people a generation of vipers is a very Christ-like thing to say? Because Jesus said it in Matthew 12:34

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What's with all the non-Christ-like behavior of people here. I thought this was supposed to be a Christian forum, yet everyone is saying things like this that would have Christ rolling in his grave (were he in one).
Then began he to upbraid the cities wherein most of his mighty works were done, because they repented not... And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee.

Jesus said that in Matthew 11:20-24. If you Catholics would actually read the Bible for a change, you'd know that.

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I don't know, those Southern Baptist's have some cool stuff. Like you can bone your sister and what not.
How can you say such an unchristian thing? Titus 3:2 tells us to "speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men," and yet here you are maligning southerners. That proves that you're no Christian.

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Hello, actual Catholic here and I wanted to put my opinion on the table.

Firstly, "LoveThatGod", I thank you for helping to defend the one True Church, Roman Catholicism.

Secondly, I have to say I disagree with your user name. You do NOT love God, if you did you would not be an evil Presbyterian. Protestants are NOT Christians (as can be read in another topic I made, here: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=27731 )

You are destined into the eternal bowels of hell, along with all these Landover nutcases, unless you quickly repent of your religion (which makes you a half-atheist), and be saved through the Mother Church.

I wrote a post describing what you must do to be saved: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=27762

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May the Blessed Virgin have mercy on your soul. Amen.
That's an odd way to talk about Jesus. Besides, He got His mum preggers with Himself, so He wasn't really a virgin.


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I wrote a post describing what you must do to be saved: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=27762
Thank you for pointing that thread out to me. I missed it earlier. I moved it to "False Religions and Cults" where it belongs.

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That's an odd way to talk about Jesus. Besides, He got His mum preggers with Himself, so He wasn't really a virgin.
You Protestant stooge, I was clearly referring to Mary, to whom the title Blessed Virgin is traditionally applied.

And suggesting Jesus wasn't a virgin is blasphemy on high!!! Who are you, Dan Brown?


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You Protestant stooge, I was clearly referring to Mary, to whom the title Blessed Virgin is traditionally applied.

And suggesting Jesus wasn't a virgin is blasphemy on high!!! Who are you, Dan Brown?
You appeal for someone else to do Jesus' job for Him, then call me a blasphemer? Who are you, Bizarro?


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Default Re: Catholics - 08-21-2009, 04:42 AM

Haven't you read the story of the wedding feast of Cana? Jesus wasn't going to do anything to help the wedding get more wine until Mary took pity on them and asked Jesus to help. Hopefully, Mary will have pity on you and ask Jesus to save you.


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No thanks, idolater.

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The Bible directs us to invoke those in heaven and ask them to pray with us. Thus in Psalms 103, we pray, "Bless the Lord, O you his angels, you mighty ones who do his word, hearkening to the voice of his word! Bless the Lord, all his hosts, his ministers that do his will!" (Ps. 103:20-21). And in Psalms 148 we pray, "Praise the Lord! Praise the Lord from the heavens, praise him in the heights! Praise him, all his angels, praise him, all his host!" (Ps. 148:1-2).

Not only do those in heaven pray with us, they also pray for us. In the book of Revelation, we read: "[An] angel came and stood at the altar [in heaven] with a golden censer; and he was given much incense to mingle with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar before the throne; and the smoke of the incense rose with the prayers of the saints from the hand of the angel before God" (Rev. 8:3-4).

And those in heaven who offer to God our prayers aren’t just angels, but humans as well. John sees that "the twenty-four elders [the leaders of the people of God in heaven] fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints" (Rev. 5:8). The simple fact is, as this passage shows: The saints in heaven offer to God the prayers of the saints on earth.


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Try explaining that to God as He dropkicks you into the Lake of Fire for all eternity for being a tightwad, friend. Are you a Scottish Presbyterian, by any chance?
At least I'm not a former Jesus-killer. Try explaining that one to God.

No, I'm actually Norwegian Presbyterian. We believe that the Norwegian Presbyterians, along with the Dutch Catholics, were actually the first Christians. There is a little known text known as the NDCW (Norwegian/Dutch Christian Writings) that pretty much proves this to be true. Hence why I'm defending Catholics.
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Excuse me, you Protestant stooge, but our two church have nothing in common. Actually, since you are not Catholic, you have no right to call yourself Christian. We don't need help your help, we have God on our side.

May I suggest you change your user name to the more accurate: "IHateGodAndSpitInHisHolyFace" ?


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Hello, actual Catholic here and I wanted to put my opinion on the table.

Firstly, "LoveThatGod", I thank you for helping to defend the one True Church, Roman Catholicism.

Secondly, I have to say I disagree with your user name. You do NOT love God, if you did you would not be an evil Presbyterian. Protestants are NOT Christians (as can be read in another topic I made, here: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=27731 )

You are destined into the eternal bowels of hell, along with all these Landover nutcases, unless you quickly repent of your religion (which makes you a half-atheist), and be saved through the Mother Church.

I wrote a post describing what you must do to be saved: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=27762

May the Blessed Virgin have mercy on your soul. Amen.


It occurs to me that any Catholic sent here would not be just your run of the mill ordinary Catholic. This after all, is Landover Baptist, the 'Big League' for the Catholic spoor!

What we have here is some kind of Papal emissary.

I bet it's fetid and cavernous colon is full of Pope semen right now !!!!


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