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Default Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person? - 03-23-2011, 03:54 PM

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I really dunno if people are joking here or not?
can someone please tell me serious?
We're discussing this from the point of view of God's judgment and not human perspective. From the human perspective you are correct, the Holocaust is a bad thing, but in God's eyes everyone dies in the end.

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If not, in my opinion hilter is one of the most evil men that lived in the last 100 years.
And the hollecaust was the worst genocide in history, u have to be a very sick person to make such a control genocide as hilter did, most of them start spontanious and out of anger in certain groups of people (like in rwanda 20 years ago).
So ofcourse Hilter is worse,
what did Anne Frank even did wrong she was regular young girl growing up in holland and yes she was jewish (but what's wrong with that religion) wasn't jesus jewish aswel?
No, Jesus, by definition IS a Christian. Remember Jesus rose from the dead and lives with His Father in Heaven?

From God's perspective Ann Frank is a Jew - this means she's rejected Jesus message of Salvation so she isn't allowed into Heaven. Adolf Hitler was a Catholic, so Hitler was part of a cult that perverted Christ's message and Hitler doesn't get to go to Heaven either. They are both sinners and they both are burning in Hell right now.



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Default Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person? - 03-23-2011, 06:17 PM

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We're discussing this from the point of view of God's judgment and not human perspective. From the human perspective you are correct, the Holocaust is a bad thing, but in God's eyes everyone dies in the end.
But not only from God's perspective. Hitler made a heroic attempt to change the world for the better and populate it with good and decent, God fearing, Christians. Anne Frank was a leach, who was happy to live off the blood and sweat of hard working, honest people. Rather than going to school and getting an education, so she might contribute to society, she chose to bunk off and play and play hide and seek.

I have to admit, Hitler and his German freinds were pretty stupid though. It took them ages to find her, which is totally ridiculous, since when I was in Amsterdam, I saw signs to her house everywhere.
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Default Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person? - 03-23-2011, 08:09 PM

well i read her dairy and before she had to hide from the germans she was a good student going to school and still when she was hiding for the germans she was home schooled with her sister and her friend
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Default Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person? - 03-23-2011, 08:18 PM

The only book you or anyone needs to read is The King James Bible.
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Default Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person? - 03-23-2011, 08:23 PM

so u dont need to learn any maths, history, languages, biography, latin etc?
i dont say the bible is unimportant, i do think religion is intresting but are u serious saying that thats the only thing u need to know in life?
and may i ask u just out of intrest ..... how do people in ur community react on this and how are u ever finding a job this way?
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Default Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person? - 03-23-2011, 09:07 PM

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so u dont need to learn any maths, history, languages, biography, latin etc?
i dont say the bible is unimportant, i do think religion is intresting but are u serious saying that thats the only thing u need to know in life?
and may i ask u just out of intrest ..... how do people in ur community react on this and how are u ever finding a job this way?
Well clearly you don't get that from a collage education, even at an Ivy School Collage now do you Isabelle? I suppose this article explains your English skills.
http://chronicle.com/article/The-Shadow-Scholar/125329/

So to answer you question, as you should well know, to be successful you don't need a higher eduction.



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Default Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person? - 03-23-2011, 10:09 PM

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so u dont need to learn any maths, history, languages, biography, latin etc?
No, you don't need to know Latin to go to Heaven.

The only book you need is the Bible (KJV1611).
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Default Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person? - 03-23-2011, 11:01 PM

Hitler was worse plain and simple. He killed a bunch of innocent people and provoked a war which kill many more soldiers. Anne Frank did nothing wrong she was just one of the numerous victims of the nazis.
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Default Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person? - 03-23-2011, 11:13 PM

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...He killed a bunch of innocent people...
Then you'll have no problem citing a source for this information?

(Remember, we're talking about WW2 here. He was a soldier in WW1 and that was his job.)


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Default Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person? - 03-23-2011, 11:19 PM

no problem:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust

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A lot of people died in that war. You don't see museums for the 20 million dead Russians, the 30 million Chinese or the 8 million dead Germans. I wonder why that is, Shlomo?

How on earth did 6 million Jews die? There weren't even 6 million Jews in all of Europe. Your "proof" is international jewry propaganda.
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Default Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person? - 03-23-2011, 11:31 PM

proof that there were 6 million jews in Europe:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/mi...ion-before-war

russian war memorial:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum_...otic_War,_Kiev
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Default Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person? - 03-23-2011, 11:36 PM

Chinese wwII memorial:

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...t_11248552.htm

German wwII memorial:

http://www.thirdreichruins.com/memorials.htm
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Chinese wwII memorial:

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...t_11248552.htm

German wwII memorial:

http://www.thirdreichruins.com/memorials.htm
(you have to scroll to the bottom)
There were 6.4 million Jews in Europe and afterward only 400,000 were left?

How are there 7.4 million people in Israel? Did they somehow manage to produce 7 million jews in 50 years?

The Russian memorial is in Russia. The "holocaust" museums are all over the world. Why is that, hook nose?
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proof that there were 6 million jews in Europe:

russian war memorial:
Let's assume that page you linked is accurate. 6 million joos all together. Of that number million were in Russia.

So, you claim that in "holocaust" whole jewish population of Europe AND Russia were killed? No one was left. Something wrong in that math.

So you found few memorials for soldiers. I think good pastor was also referring to cleansings made by Stalin and Mao. Stalin even had very similar camps for killing than Hitler. No matter the math, Hitler comes only 3rd on kill count.
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Nothing in your references says anything about Hitler killing people.


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Default Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person? - 03-24-2011, 12:16 AM

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There were 6.4 million Jews in Europe and afterward only 400,000 were left?

How are there 7.4 million people in Israel? Did they somehow manage to produce 7 million jews in 50 years?

The Russian memorial is in Russia. The "holocaust" museums are all over the world. Why is that, hook nose?
Well pastor if you passed your high school world history class then you would know that Jews had already began to migrate to Palestine(now Israel) due to a movement called Zionism which began in the late 19th century. Therefore when the mass migration of Jews occurred after WWII there were already Jews present. Finally, it is important to remember that Jews moved to Europe not just from Europe but from all over the world.
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Default Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person? - 03-24-2011, 12:21 AM

Sorry slight correction in the my previous post it should say Jews moved to Israel from all over the world, not moved to Europe.
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Default Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person? - 03-24-2011, 12:26 AM

"The Russian memorial is in Russia. The "holocaust" museums are all over the world. Why is that, hook nose?"

Haha good one, but let's think this one through pastor, holocaust survivors are spread out all over the world and many people are interested in the holocaust because they have a lot of sympathy. However, the russian memorial will appeal to many russians since they may know people were killed not to mention the fact that many russian soldiers died in russia.
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Default Re: Anne Frank vs. Adolf Hitler: Who was the worse person? - 03-24-2011, 12:34 AM

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However, the russian memorial will appeal to many russians since they may know people were killed not to mention the fact that many russian soldiers died in russia.
Have all of the Russians stayed in Russia then? You are still trying to avoid the question of millions of Russian civilians killed in Stalin's camps. Where are the memorials for them? Are these somehow lesser people or what?

You did not aswer to this one either. Do you seriously claim, that whole population of Joos in Europe and Russia were killed by Germans during WW II as you proved with your statistics?
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