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Re: I left last night -
04-06-2010, 01:34 AM
Of course it's your wife's fault! You would never be subjected to the sins of the flesh if your wife were a Godly woman. If you are so tempted, it is clear that she has not been paying sufficient attention to your comfort, food, cleaning, etc.
Your wife has driven you towards Satan!
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Re: I left last night -
04-06-2010, 01:36 AM
Oh sure they have, and if I am not Married. Who is at fault then?
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Re: I left last night -
04-06-2010, 01:41 AM
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Oh sure they have, and if I am not Married. Who is at fault then?
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Satan.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: I left last night -
04-06-2010, 01:58 AM
I'm a little timid about sticking my beezer in here where it might not belong, BUT...
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Originally Posted by BelieverInGod
I don't even find the sexual immorality the worst of it. It's the lack of any respect for me, the "corrections" that have become harsher and harsher. A month or so ago, he twisted my arm in such a way that it is still sore.
Our marriage bed had grown cold, and I thought that it was because he had lost interest in sex. Well to find him doing this proves that he's only lost interest IN ME!
I'm so upset, what am I supposed to do? I can't go back to my father, he's been placed in an old age home. I haven't worked in over 10 years, I don't even know where to start looking for a job. And if I did start working I'd have to put the older boys into public school and the youngest into daycare. Who knows what blasphemes they'll be taught there.
He has been phoning the apartment this morning, but I haven't picked up the phone. I don't know what to say or do.
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...it seems to me that your disdain for your husband's authority goes way back. When you mention, " the "corrections" that have become harsher and harsher", I wonder why you haven't be able to learn earlier to stop the behaviors that led to the earlier (and obviously continuing) "corrections". What has kept you from complying with his directives? You know the rules, yet as recently as yesterday you defied him and entered his office against his rule. His activity in the office, as disgusting as it is, is actually irrelevant. You continue to defy him and you blame him for your defiance. His sons belong at home where they can learn from their father's Godly example. Taking them as your hostages while you run off and enjoy your tantrum is wicked. If your brother has a spine, he's run you out of his apartment by now and has helped your husband's sons to reunite with their father. Shame on you for confusing the poor boys and leading them to believe that wives should be able to just walk off on their husbands in the face of adversity. You call yourself "BelieverInGod", but we both know what it is God would have you doing right now. You go on home now. Everything will be better once you have finally learned your place and have begun to work a lot harder at making a perfect home for your husband and his sons (future fathers). As for your attractiveness, surely you aren't saying it is utterly beyond your means to keep yourself fresh and pretty as a daisy for him. It's called work.
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22Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Ephesians 5:22-24 (King James Version)
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You don't have a problem with the advice offered by the 1611 King James Bible, do you BelieverInGod?
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Re: I left last night -
04-06-2010, 01:58 AM
So you are saying that the middleman is the "WIFE"?
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Re: I left last night -
04-06-2010, 02:09 AM
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What is wrong with you people? Why are you two blaming everything on her. If I go out and sleep with another woman today. Is that my wifes fault? No, it is not.
If I decide to go out and murder another person. Is that my wifes fault then also?
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I'm not trying to intrude, but...
To what end would you go out and sleep with another woman? Is your wife barren? What would murdering someone have to do with this discussion? You do struggle with making sense, don't you, Nut?
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Re: I left last night -
04-06-2010, 02:15 AM
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I'm not trying to intrude, but...
To what end would you go out and sleep with another woman? Is your wife barren? What would murdering someone have to do with this discussion? You do struggle with making sense, don't you, Nut?
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Murdering someone has nothing to do with her leaving her husband. But it does have something to do with the "Wife is always at fault" accusation.
Having said all this. Why is nobody helping her?
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Re: I left last night -
04-06-2010, 02:36 AM
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Murdering someone has nothing to do with her leaving her husband. But it does have something to do with the "Wife is always at fault" accusation.
Having said all this. Why is nobody helping her?
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I'm seeing an outpouring of loving advice for her. What's wrong with you that you don't see it? Incidentally, why isn't becoming a True Christian one of your goals? Obviously, God's word means nothing to you, so why are you even interested in this forum? What do you stand to gain from being a burr under Jesus' saddle?
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Re: I left last night -
04-06-2010, 02:49 AM
Outpouring of love advice? There were two to three people that have said anything to her. She replied a total of three times, still saying that she needs help and has no idea of what to do. I saw her post and I felt obligated to help. Now she may not speak to me because I do not own a "True Christian" title. But I tried.
To answer your question. I am not on this site to become a True Christian, I already am. I am here to merely study differences between people in the "Christian" communities. So far I have been let down by your believes. Now having said that I am not attack any of you. If you believe/know the truth so be it.
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Re: I left last night -
04-06-2010, 02:49 AM
Sister, go back to him.
So what? You caught him with his pants around his ankles. If you weren't so frigid and were taking care of him, he would have no need to do those sorts of things.
He called me and said how sorry he was. He loves you and he is willing to take you back. Old Man Hatchet even volunteered to do some True Christian™ marriage counseling for you two lovebirds.
Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.
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Re: I left last night -
04-06-2010, 02:54 AM
So it is fine for the husband to "cheat" ? If the woman is not willing to have sex?. And I do believe that she said that Sex is not the problem.
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Re: I left last night -
04-06-2010, 03:03 AM
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So it is fine for the husband to "cheat" ? If the woman is not willing to have sex?. And I do believe that she said that Sex is not the problem.
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I do believe she said it was. She caught him doing the nasty m-word on the computer. That's her fault. If she had taken care of business at home, it wouldn't have come to this.
Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.
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Re: I left last night -
04-06-2010, 03:13 AM
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Our marriage bed had grown cold, and I thought that it was because he had lost interest in sex. Well to find him doing this proves that he's only lost interest IN ME!
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This does not look like she has been denying him love.
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Re: I left last night -
04-06-2010, 03:13 AM
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So it is fine for the husband to "cheat" ? If the woman is not willing to have sex?. And I do believe that she said that Sex is not the problem.
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To date, only two sons have come of this marriage. By definition, a True Christian wife IS willing to have sex for the purpose of procreation as the True Christian husband is intent on enduring the act for the same purpose (and ONLY that purpose) for as long as the wife is able to conceive. Are there other problems? Sure, but none of which should ever have been made public or that should've caused the sons to have ever been separated from their father.
It's hard to imagine, Nut, that you will ever have much of a chance of attaining Salvation through Jesus Christ if you can't take His laws seriously. The Bible is quite clear on what your role as a husband must be and it sounds like BeliverInGod's husband took his responsibility TO GOD very seriously when he and his wife exchanged their marriage vows. If you have a problem with the instructions God gave us, maybe you can change His mind. Let us know how that works for you.
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Re: I left last night -
04-06-2010, 03:24 AM
So he is allowed to cheat?
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Re: I left last night -
04-06-2010, 03:38 AM
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So he is allowed to cheat?
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Short answer no. Long answer maybe. Concubinage is spoken of in the Bible.
The New Testament clearly says that marriage is to between one man and one woman, but there are other arrangements available to men.
Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.
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Re: I left last night -
04-06-2010, 03:40 AM
I do not believe that for a minute. And neither should she.
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Re: I left last night -
04-06-2010, 03:53 AM
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I do not believe that for a minute. And neither should she.
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Why are you against the sanctity of marriage? What is your malfunction?
Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.
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Re: I left last night -
04-06-2010, 03:57 AM
"Being a Sassy-Mouthed Feminazi Bitch" Thank you Levi Jones.
I get all of this hatred just because I was trying to help a "Human"
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Re: I left last night -
04-06-2010, 04:29 AM
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Now having said that.Make sure what exactly he was doing it too. There are two different ways of looking at this. If he was masturbating to lets say a Video then it's a minor problem that can be fixed. Now if he had found another person online to share sexual pleasures with, then yes that will be bad and not easily fixed. Has he been making you feel worthless in the last couple of month/weeks. If so have you suspected anything at all? Things like this may help us to help you (you don't have to like me, but those things can definitely help)
Please guys don't attack me over this. I am not justifying that the Video part is good or less evil. It's just a huge difference. Video is just an image..a person well is another person.
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Masturbation ( handrosexural) is a sin no way around it.
Genesis 38:9-10
9And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
10And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.
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