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Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! -
03-29-2012, 07:27 AM
The moon should be flat as well. Notice how only one side of the moon always faces us? If it were round shouldn't it rotate just as scientist claim the Earth does?
Wait, I forgot... they claim that the moon is 'tidally locked' so it always has the same side facing earth. How convenient huh?
What else will scientist come up with in their pathetic attempts to persuade everyone that the Earth is round?
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Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! -
03-29-2012, 12:31 PM
The moon is tidally locked and that is what causes the tides.
I think the reason that people in biblical times thought the world was flat was because that is all the people could understand in those times.
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Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! -
03-29-2012, 12:43 PM
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The moon is tidally locked and that is what causes the tides.
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Not only do you know nothing about God, you know nothing about the science you love either!
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Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! -
03-29-2012, 12:55 PM
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Not only do you know nothing about God, you know nothing about the science you love either!
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As the moon goes around the earth it attracts the water. This creats tidal zones and friction in the crust to cause geothermal energy to keep the planet habitable. This is just another aspect of the design inference. Do you think the moon is here by chance?
The chances of life happening through chance and are infinity to one and the moon being here by chance is just as unlikely.
The bible is gods word but his blue prints are in the world around us.
Intact I think I'll start a thread on the design hypothesis and maybe you might learn something.
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Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! -
03-29-2012, 01:06 PM
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As the moon goes around the earth it attracts the water. This creats tidal zones and friction in the crust to cause geothermal energy to keep the planet habitable. This is just another aspect of the design inference. Do you think the moon is here by chance?
The chances of life happening through chance and are infinity to one and the moon being here by chance is just as unlikely.
The bible is gods word but his blue prints are in the world around us.
Intact I think I'll start a thread on the design hypothesis and maybe you might learn something.
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So are you one of people who thinks that the God of the Bible exists but He was just lying when He told us how He created the Earth and us?
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Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! -
03-29-2012, 01:15 PM
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So are you one of people who thinks that the God of the Bible exists but He was just lying when He told us how He created the Earth and us?
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There's a difference between believing that God lied and believing that the Bible may have been slightly influenced by the people's beliefs at the time it was written. The Bible is a book. It may have been inspired by God, but it is a book nonetheless, and books can be edited.
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Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! -
03-29-2012, 01:20 PM
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There's a difference between believing that God lied and believing that the Bible may have been slightly influenced by the people's beliefs at the time it was written. The Bible is a book. It may have been inspired by God, but it is a book nonetheless, and books can be edited.
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So if you believe the Bible isn't 100% reliable how do you judge what is truth and what is not?
Where do you stand on the 6 day creation?
The flood?
The virgin birth?
the resurrection?
Where these edited do you think?
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Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.
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Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! -
03-29-2012, 01:28 PM
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So if you believe the Bible isn't 100% reliable how do you judge what is truth and what is not?
Where do you stand on the 6 day creation?
The flood?
The virgin birth?
the resurrection?
Where these edited do you think?
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Well I guess we'll never find out. But it's silly to think that the Bible is still written the exact same way that it was written when it was written for the first time.
I'm not necessarily saying that any of the teachings of the Bible have been changed, but the way things are worded have changed. If the Bible went out and specifically stated that the Earth was flat, I could see your point. However, the only places where the Bible "says" that the Earth is flat is through a few brief, off-topic mentionings of the Earth as a "circle." This could have easily been originally written as a "sphere", or a "three-dimensional circle", or a "ball", but was later changed for one reason or another. The Earth being flat was never the main topic of any part of the Bible.
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Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! -
03-29-2012, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack O'fagan
So if you believe the Bible isn't 100% reliable how do you judge what is truth and what is not?
Where do you stand on the 6 day creation?
The flood?
The virgin birth?
the resurrection?
Where these edited do you think?
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In the other hand, tell us how can you be so sure that the bible is true?
Because God written it? Are you sure about that? Do you have evidence?
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Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! -
03-29-2012, 01:35 PM
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Well I guess we'll never find out. But it's silly to think that the Bible is still written the exact same way that it was written when it was written for the first time.
I'm not necessarily saying that any of the teachings of the Bible have been changed, but the way things are worded have changed. If the Bible went out and specifically stated that the Earth was flat, I could see your point. However, the only places where the Bible "says" that the Earth is flat is through a few brief, off-topic mentionings of the Earth as a "circle." This could have easily been originally written as a "sphere", or a "three-dimensional circle", or a "ball", but was later changed for one reason or another. The Earth being flat was never the main topic of any part of the Bible.
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Isaiah 40:22
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Isaiah 22:18
He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house.
The description of 'like a ball' was available to God. He could have used it if it was correct. He didn't so it must be a disc.
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Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! -
03-29-2012, 01:41 PM
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The description of 'like a ball' was available to God. He could have used it if it was correct. He didn't so it must be a disc.
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Maybe he did, but it was changed for some reason. Since there was only a brief mentioning of it, the people back then probably didn't realize the significance of it, and could have changed it to "circle."
Also, you do realize that God did not write the Bible? He inspired it, but Man still wrote the Bible, and Man can be influenced by the beliefs of people at the time. God set the blueprints for the Bible, and helped the people write it, but He did not write every single adjective in the Bible.
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Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! -
03-29-2012, 01:52 PM
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So are you one of people who thinks that the God of the Bible exists but He was just lying when He told us how He created the Earth and us?
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No I just think God told people what they could understand at the time. He also gave us brains to see his signature in the world around us.
Do you really think the order and purpose we see in the universe was pure chance? Science can tell us WHAT GOD DID.
http://www.arn.org/mm/mb_ic.htm
Please read it and maybe you will learn how truly awsome God is.
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Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! -
03-29-2012, 02:21 PM
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The chances of life happening through chance and are infinity to one and the moon being here by chance is just as unlikely.
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God created both the Earth and the moon AND put life on it. So how can the chance of life on earth and the moon overhead be infinity to one?
That some like delusional Atheist thinking to me.
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Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! -
03-29-2012, 02:47 PM
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Maybe he did, but it was changed for some reason. Since there was only a brief mentioning of it, the people back then probably didn't realize the significance of it, and could have changed it to "circle."
Also, you do realize that God did not write the Bible? He inspired it, but Man still wrote the Bible, and Man can be influenced by the beliefs of people at the time. God set the blueprints for the Bible, and helped the people write it, but He did not write every single adjective in the Bible.
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So you think that God went to all the trouble to inspire the Bible but didn't bother to check it after for errors?
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Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! -
03-29-2012, 04:10 PM
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No I just think God told people what they could understand at the time. He also gave us brains to see his signature in the world around us.
Do you really think the order and purpose we see in the universe was pure chance? Science can tell us WHAT GOD DID.
http://www.arn.org/mm/mb_ic.htm
Please read it and maybe you will learn how truly awsome God is.
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The problem is that if the Bible is so unreliable it's the only evidence we actually have for Jesus. So are you saying people made Him up?
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Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! -
03-29-2012, 04:21 PM
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The problem is that if the Bible is so unreliable it's the only evidence we actually have for Jesus. So are you saying people made Him up?
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That's entirely possible. The Bible is just a book, and the only thing that claims it's special is the Bible itself.
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Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! -
03-29-2012, 04:32 PM
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That's entirely possible. The Bible is just a book, and the only thing that claims it's special is the Bible itself.
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It works like this.
Some guy in the past ages doesn't know how everything begins.
So he made up a story (check my sig)
And then tells it to everybody
And pass it to every generation
Until it become tradition
And so people believe in it
With no good explanation
So the word 'Faith' comes in play
And now people told the story to children(which mostly they believe... easily affected because of their young minds)
Until it dumbdown the mass
And delay human progression... to the max
Not sayin religion is bad. It's a good practice for healthy lifestyle. But still it cause wars and disasters =p
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Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! -
03-29-2012, 04:44 PM
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No I just think God told people what they could understand at the time. He also gave us brains to see his signature in the world around us.
Do you really think the order and purpose we see in the universe was pure chance? Science can tell us WHAT GOD DID.
http://www.arn.org/mm/mb_ic.htm
Please read it and maybe you will learn how truly awsome God is.
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The Bible (KJV1611) trumps science every time. It tells us what we should (and shouldn't do). God gave us his words and nowhere does it say anything about using our brains
What is it you seek to achieve, here? I bet you just passed your A levels and now you think you know some thing about nothing. Get with the Bible (KJV1611) or go back to 6th Form.
You people make me sick
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Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! -
03-29-2012, 04:56 PM
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That's entirely possible. The Bible is just a book, and the only thing that claims it's special is the Bible itself.
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That "just a book" is the sole foundation for the made up belief system you are putting forwards.
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Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! -
03-29-2012, 05:50 PM
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The moon is tidally locked and that is what causes the tides...
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