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Angry Re: My daughter, and chastity belts. - 04-23-2012, 09:40 PM

Are you kidding me???? A chastity belt this day and age??! Females are NOT men's to control and decide our sexuality!!! Her privates are not yours to control either!! It's her vagina!! What happens if she wants to swim??? Does she wear the dang vaginal prison to the pool and get made fun of?! Or cleaning herself when she isn't feeling "so fresh" down there!! (I personally use vagisil every time I shower) and now having the basic human FREEDOM to go to the restroom when she needs! What if shes not near the one who has the key and has to pee or poo and has to hold it for HOURS or DAYS until y'all decide to allow her to relive herself! If you get the one with holes in it, those aren't clean!! She'll surly get infections and then the matter of her private areas is now under discussion for EVEN more people when she has to see a doctor. Plus us FEMALES get periods during puberty and sitting in your own vagina blood sounds inhumane and disgusting!!!! Plus having to wipe frequently after pooping, peeing, and periods. Them there is the matter of tampons.

Masturnation is not bad. It's actually considered healthy according to doctors and relieves sexual tension and stress! It's not gonna send you to Satan if you have an orgasm! Big whoop! It's none of your business if she wants to do that or not anyway you creepy man! If my dad did this to me I'd report him to the police for sexual harassment!!!

Sex isn't horrible either!!! I'm 15 and I've lost my virginity to my boyfriend of 9 months who I am madly in love with! I'm on BIRTH CONTROL (don't you dare tell me I'm going to hell for that, it helps me with painful periods and prevents pregnancies at a young age). I'm a Spiritualist but I still believe in God, and Jesus died for our sins, meaning God FORGIVES US!!! Plus David (my amazing lover and boyfriend and soon to be husband because we have promise rings and all and are in deep, pationate love) and I are faithful and have only had sex (we prefer the term "making love") with each other and intend on marriage as soon as legal.


Not to mention, you country hicks are racist ass****s!!!! Color doesn't make a person!!!!! Race and culture don't either!!!

Y'all need to get with this century and stop being racist, sexist, JERKS!!! I swear I'd turn you in to the authorities if I knew who y'all were!!!

Praying for your poor daughter to be born to YOU creeps!!!
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Default Re: My daughter, and chastity belts. - 04-23-2012, 09:48 PM

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Females are NOT men's to control
Nonsense!

Ephesians 5:22 "Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord."


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Default Re: My daughter, and chastity belts. - 04-23-2012, 09:59 PM

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I'm 15 and I've lost my virginity to my boyfriend of 9
Seriously? Where I live you go to jail for that. And btw, what are you doing out and about during your smelly time of the month? Didn't your father build you a menstrual hut?



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Default Re: My daughter, and chastity belts. - 04-23-2012, 10:43 PM

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Are you kidding me????
Why do you think we're kidding? I for one am exceedingly grateful for parents like the OP. My own sons will one day marry good and True Christian™ young women, and this is a sure way to keep girls pure until their fathers are ready to have them married off.


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Default Re: My daughter, and chastity belts. - 04-25-2012, 02:41 AM

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Sex isn't horrible either!!! I'm 15 and I've lost my virginity to my boyfriend of 9 months who I am madly in love with! I'm on BIRTH CONTROL (don't you dare tell me I'm going to hell for that, it helps me with painful periods and prevents pregnancies at a young age).
No, you're going to Hell for being a fornicating slut.

Your father should have a chastity belt on you to protect you from your obviously uncontrollable lustful urges, whore.

I hope your boyfriend is not more than a year older than you; that's statutory rape in many states.

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Wrong. You are a flagrant sinner (a fornicator AND a witch with familiar spirits, both of which are sins which face the death penalty per the Bible), and God only forgives those who repent. You choose to continue sinning; therefore, you are not forgiven.

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Default Re: My daughter, and chastity belts. - 04-25-2012, 02:53 AM

I am showing my ignorance here but what exactly is a spiritualist. In the UK the only ones I'm aware of crazy old ladies who smell of piss and think they can speak to their dead cat. Is it the same in the States?

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Default Re: My daughter, and chastity belts. - 04-25-2012, 02:58 AM

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I am showing my ignorance here but what exactly is a spiritualist. In the UK the only ones I'm aware of crazy old ladies who smell of piss and think they can speak to their dead cat. Is it the same in the States?

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Spiritualists are witches, typically British ladies who became infested with Hindoo demons and are now brainwashed into thinking that they have magical powers granted them by some long-dead Egyptian prince.



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Default Re: My daughter, and chastity belts. - 04-29-2012, 09:26 AM

Beating your child will only make her want to get closer to satanisem just to anjnoy you. she would do drugs and particapate in satanist conventions and wont stay at your home.

Then when she leaves your house, and the only things she left are guilt and a middle finger, your wife will be crying on your shoulder while you stand firm to see her driving away in her car she stolen. you would thing in your heart: The Spoiled satanist whore! i did everything for her! and she didnt even thanked me!
While your brain says: But she is still my daughter, and somwhere in me i love her.
And then a single tear would slide over your nose and drip on the sidewalk in front of your home.


Or she would just escape to one of her boyfriends and leave you a note.


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Beating your child will only make her want to get closer to satanisem just to anjnoy you. she would do drugs and particapate in satanist conventions and wont stay at your home.

Then when she leaves your house, and the only things she left are guilt and a middle finger, your wife will be crying on your shoulder while you stand firm to see her driving away in her car she stolen. you would thing in your heart: The Spoiled satanist whore! i did everything for her! and she didnt even thanked me!
While your brain says: But she is still my daughter, and somwhere in me i love her.
And then a single tear would slide over your nose and drip on the sidewalk in front of your home.


Or she would just escape to one of her boyfriends and leave you a note.


i think i need some sleep.
Maybe in your sick masturbation fantasy a beaten child runs to you to play the harlot but here in the real world of the Biblical reality God tells us how to bring up children and that is to beat them if we love them to keep them behaving and if they will not behave despite being beaten we should kill them.

It's secular laws undermining this principle that's the problem. If all parents beat their kids properly then where would your fantasy slut run to?



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Default Re: My daughter, and chastity belts. - 05-01-2012, 05:20 PM

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I'm on BIRTH CONTROL (don't you dare tell me I'm going to hell for that, it helps me with painful periods and prevents pregnancies at a young age)
The pain of menstruation is the same as the pain of childbirth given to us to remind us of how Eve got us all kicked out of paradise. You need to suffer without pills and realize the pain is there for your salvation.

As for hygiene, neoprene and stainless steel are easily washable. One only need to purchase two belts for convenience and protection while one is being cleaned.
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Default Re: My daughter, and chastity belts. - 08-18-2013, 07:46 AM

It all depends on the state laws. My dad made me start wearing one once i stared middle school and i continued to wear it up in till my last birthday because I turned 16 and according to Michigan state laws I am at the legal age of consent. If he has continued to force me to wear a chastity belt after I turned 16 it could have caused a lot of legal trouble.(My gym teacher saw it and reported it to the school district and police.) He also only made me wear it when I would be away from home for more then a couple hours without a parent or trusted adult. He would let me take it off when i was home because it didn't fit quite right and would hurt after a couple hours.
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Default Re: My daughter, and chastity belts. - 08-18-2013, 08:22 AM

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Default Re: My daughter, and chastity belts. - 08-19-2013, 05:39 PM

You're sick you should let yourself get beaten by your father, go to a proper church, see a phsychiator, go to a good Baptist church, im sure they can help you, it's not too late yet to be saved.
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Default Re: My daughter, and chastity belts. - 08-19-2013, 10:43 PM

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You're sick you should let yourself get beaten by your father, go to a proper church, see a phsychiator, go to a good Baptist church, im sure they can help you, it's not too late yet to be saved.
My father and I are rarely on the same continent. I already attend a Proper Church and am myself a music therapist (although I am not a psychodynamicist). I have received much help from The Pastoral Team here at Landover and have that Blessed Assurance perhaps you are in episode however and talking to yourself?
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Default Re: My daughter, and chastity belts. - 03-01-2014, 12:39 PM

I know this thread is old, but I am VERY disappointed in all of you. The Bible never states to force your children to obey you by placing Chacity belts on them and never giving them a moments rest. The bible does say to rase your children in the ways of God, but in no way are you ever to force your beliefs on them. Although you may find this hard to believe, you have to let them grow and make there own decisions. You are there to help and give uplifting words, not to abuse and make them do what you think is best. A Chasity belt is not an option, it is child abuse, and was never once used in the Bilble as a means to stop unwanted relations. And should never be used. By forcing your children to ware these monstrosities you are hurting them more then helping them. You will push them further and further away. SHAME on all of you for thinking this is the right way to act.

My father is a pastor and I was raised up well in the faith with my four brothers and one sister, we all had the freedom to do what we wanted to do, and we chose well, because our father raised us well. When we reached the age of 15 we got to go out and chose our own church and our own fellowship. I now have a man whom I have been daiting for 3 long years, and we love each other, and have decided that the church we where attending was not right in a number of the things they beleved where true, but if we ever walked into a church that beleved some of the stuff that has been shared here on this thread we would leave no questions asked. Our children will be raised right.

Also, it is wrong for you to be judging and daming other people to hell, that is not your place. A person is not dammed to hell if they have a slip up in fath, or even if there slip up goes for years. All can and will be forgivin, because our God is a forgiving God, and not a damming one.
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Default Re: My daughter, and chastity belts. - 03-01-2014, 12:54 PM

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I know this thread is old, but I am VERY disappointed in all of you. The Bible never states to force your children to obey you by placing Chacity belts on them and never giving them a moments rest. The bible does say to rase your children in the ways of God, but in no way are you ever to force your beliefs on them.
Baloney.



(Ephesians 6:4) "And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord."

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Although you may find this hard to believe, you have to let them grow and make there own decisions. You are there to help and give uplifting words, not to abuse and make them do what you think is best. A Chasity belt is not an option, it is child abuse, and was never once used in the Bilble as a means to stop unwanted relations. And should never be used. By forcing your children to ware these monstrosities you are hurting them more then helping them. You will push them further and further away. SHAME on all of you for thinking this is the right way to act.
Please provide Scripture that specifically says this.

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My father is a pastor and I was raised up well in the faith with my four brothers and one sister, we all had the freedom to do what we wanted to do, and we chose well, because our father raised us well. When we reached the age of 15 we got to go out and chose our own church and our own fellowship. I now have a man whom I have been daiting for 3 long years, and we love each other, and have decided that the church we where attending was not right in a number of the things they beleved where true, but if we ever walked into a church that beleved some of the stuff that has been shared here on this thread we would leave no questions asked. Our children will be raised right.
So, you been living in sin with a man for 3 years, you don't go to church, you provide absolutely no Scriptural support for any of your crazy assertions, but you're here to tell us all about what the Bible says?

Awesome.

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Also, it is wrong for you to be judging and daming other people to hell, that is not your place. A person is not dammed to hell if they have a slip up in fath, or even if there slip up goes for years. All can and will be forgivin, because our God is a forgiving God, and not a damming one.
More baloney. We are commanded by God to judge others:

(1 Corinthians 2:15) "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man."

And if people continue to sin when they KNOW it's wrong, they are going to Hell:

(James 4:17) "Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin."

Try actually reading the Bible before telling me what's in it.

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The bible does say to rase your children in the ways of God,
Yes, it does.

Prov 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

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No; we're to force God's beliefs on them.

Deut 11:18-20
18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.
19 And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
20 And thou shalt write them upon the door posts of thine house, and upon thy gates:


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Although you may find this hard to believe, you have to let them grow and make there own decisions. You are there to help and give uplifting words.
Where does the Bible say this? Book, chapter and verse, please.

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Also, it is wrong for you to be judging and daming other people to hell, that is not your place.
We're entitled to judge others.

1 Cor 6:2-4
1 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.


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God forgives murderers, rapists and pedophiles if they sincerely repent. But He will never EVER forgive someone who has spoken ill of the Holy Spirit.

Mat 12:31-32
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.


1 Jn 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

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Do you understand the meaning of the word damn?

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Rev 20:11-15
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


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Default Re: My daughter, and chastity belts. - 03-01-2014, 01:26 PM

-"Bring them up in nurture"




Proverbs 3:5-6
Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths.

1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

As for your question about my relationship, we do not live together, we only date within our church. You made it seem as if we do not attend church at all, we are usuly on Mission, so no we don't get a lot of time with our members, but we do have a church and a fellowship group.
As for most of your questions my pastors wife is looking up the scriptures tonight, and I will defiantly show you our side.

Luke 6:37
“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;

Matthew 7:1-5
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

Romans 14:1-23
As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.

Matthew 7:1-2
“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.
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