[Michelle1991]

Hello Christian friends


First of all I have to say that this is differently not an attempt to cheat.

It’s just that Mom gave me a D in Social Science last week (My report on The King of Sweden vs. a democratic system), which is why I need at least a B in Creation Science II to pass my High School Exam (And I really want to go to Home University so bad)


Mom’s first question about the creation and shape of the Earth seems fairly easy, since (In addition to all the other overwhelming evidence in this Godly forum) the stars are visible all year which obviously rules out the possibility of a round and turning earth (This would turn our back on the stars at winter time, right?)


However, the second question about how and when the dinosaurs died is bit tricky and leave me with the conclusion that God killed them all with his great flood 5000 years ago (Genesis 7: 11 -24) because the where to big (or evil) to fit into the ark


Genesis 6:15 (King James Version): And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be threehundredcubits, the breadth of it fiftycubits, and the height of it thirtycubits.


Am I right about those dimensions seems way too small for big and evil dinosaurs or could there be a better explanation?


Any help would be much appreciated

[Phebe Carlyle]

Hello Michelle,

It could well be possible that baby or young dinosaurs were taken on the ark; or even dinosaur eggs. They would certainly have fit on.

Something that sounds like it could have been the size of a dinosaur is mentioned in

Job.40


15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.

16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.

17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.

18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.

19 He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.

20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.

21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.

22 The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.

23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can
draw up Jordan into his mouth.

24 He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.


The name behemoth, means gigantic or colossal beast.

I hope that helps you.

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

[BelieverInGod]

I am personally of the school that believes that Noah took dinosaur eggs onto the ark. As for what happened to them? Well I believe that they were pretty much hunted into extinction by dragon slayers. There's some evidence that a few dinosaurs are still kicking around (certain lake monsters and African Pygmy stories).

Again, these are beliefs that I have formed from the evidence I've seen. Others do believe they were wiped out in the flood (except that Job makes it pretty clear they were around after the flood). My cousin actually believes that dinosaur bones were put in the earth by Satan to fool us. Unfortunately I haven't had time to question her about dragons since I became an adult.

[Michelle1991]

Thank you so much for your thoughtful answers.
Noah indeed was a good and clever man and I’m sure that the assumption that he forgot the dinosaurs (or somehow left them behind) would have resulted in an F
I just got my report back – and hey; guess who now has a high school exam as the first person in our entire family? Me
God bless you

[James Hutchins]

Michelle, I am glad to know you realized that it was because Noah did not have room on the ark for them so God took them all back.

I'll let you in a little known fact.
Before the flood to end all floods, there were many more creatures and races of people on the earth. God created them all and let them use their free will. He watched and saved the best of the best for Noah's list. The rest God let drown in thrashing fits of slow suffocation by ingestion of water.
Can you imagine how horrible those animals and people must of been? Smellier than a pakastani, lazier than a messican, more devious than a slant, more thieving than a nigra.
Yes, Gods loving majesty is a sight to behold. Praise Jesus!

Congratulations of moving forward with your education. I hope you ace'd the home Ec classes as they really are almost as important as those about Jesus. You need to be a fine little homemaker if you want to catch the eye of a man. So keep your focus on getting married, cooking, cleaning and making babies.

[Cindy Lou Jenkins]

Originally Posted by James Hutchins

Congratulations of moving forward with your education. I hope you ace'd the home Ec classes as they really are almost as important as those about Jesus. You need to be a fine little homemaker if you want to catch the eye of a man. So keep your focus on getting married, cooking, cleaning and making babies.

It's true, Michelle. If I didn't know how to bake a pie or change a diaper, of what use would I be to my husband Billy Bob? None! Women are too much of a liability for a man to just let them into his house and eat scraps off of the floor unless she can also make a contribution. For one, women will fornicate with anything: dogs, cats, wild animals, cattle, bronze statuettes... A man has to constantly worry about the possibility that his pet woman is going to bleed all over the furniture during her period.

To make a long story short, you had better make yourself worth all of the trouble!

(Billy Bob: I approve this post.)

[Michelle1991]

Thank you for your free science lesson, Mr. Hutchins. You truly are blessed from above

And rest assured that I’m not going to get a smart behind just because of my high school diploma.
My apple pies are still lacking so much in taste and quality that even Mr. Stein and his wife Sarah next door won’t eat them even though they get for free after my cooking class on Fridays

Now I’m really looking forward to College where I’m going to study Creation Science along with Advanced American Gastronomy I and II
With Jesus in my right hand and a college bachelor in my left, I’m sure that a good Christian man will choose me eventually

[McGrath]

American gastronomy? I'd be surprised to see this.

[Michelle1991]

Dear Mr. McGrath,
If your wife knew how to make you a good old cheeseburger the American way along with great American apple pie, you wouldn’t be asking such a silly question

[Viggo B. Kristoffersen]

Originally Posted by McGrath

American gastronomy? I'd be surprised to see this.

What are you trying to say? To my knowledge American food is the most popular in the world today. You can't find a single person in the entire universe who don't know about Hot Dogs, Hamburgers, Sparerips, Pizzas, T-bone steaks and Sub sandwiches and wherever we go we are blessed with fine American family restaurants on nearly every street corner. Praise the LORD.

That my friend, is what real gastronomy is all about.

[McGrath]

What I see in every streets corner of America is overweight persons who shortened their life by years.

Just look at those numbers...

• 58 Million Overweight; 40 Million Obese; 3 Million morbidly Obese
• Eight out of 10 over 25's Overweight
• 78% of American's not meeting basic activity level recommendations
• 25% completely Sedentary
• 76% increase in Type II diabetes in adults 30-40 yrs old since 1990

This is highly saddening and unacceptable for a rich country such as yours.

[Viggo B. Kristoffersen]

Originally Posted by McGrath

What I see in every streets corner of America is overweight persons who shortened their life by years.

Just look at those numbers...

• 58 Million Overweight; 40 Million Obese; 3 Million morbidly Obese
• Eight out of 10 over 25's Overweight
• 78% of American's not meeting basic activity level recommendations
• 25% completely Sedentary
• 76% increase in Type II diabetes in adults 30-40 yrs old since 1990

This is highly saddening and unacceptable for a rich country such as yours.

Well, why don't you take a look at these numbers....

Matthew 25:30 (King James Version)
And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Luke 16:23 (King James Version)
And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 (King James Version)
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Revelation 21:8 (King James Version)
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Mark 9:44 (King James Version)
Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Revelation 9:2 (King James Version)
And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

Revelation 14:11(King James Version)
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Revelation 20:14 (King James Version)
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Luke 16:24 (King James Version)
And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

Enjoy...

[McGrath]

So according to you those people deserve to be killed. (obesity kills)
Since America is the country with the biggest obesity rate.
It means America deserves to be killed first.

Does it?

[BelieverInGod]

Originally Posted by McGrath

What I see in every streets corner of America is overweight persons who shortened their life by years.

Just look at those numbers...

• 58 Million Overweight; 40 Million Obese; 3 Million morbidly Obese
• Eight out of 10 over 25's Overweight
• 78% of American's not meeting basic activity level recommendations
• 25% completely Sedentary
• 76% increase in Type II diabetes in adults 30-40 yrs old since 1990

This is highly saddening and unacceptable for a rich country such as yours.

Not sure what this has to do with creation science or dinosaurs, but lets take a look at those fat Americans.

The numbers are taken from the BMI. According to the BMI President Bush was considered Overweight, yet he was also the "fittest President ever". But wait, how can that be? Could it be because the BMI is junk science? Could it be that I am considered obese even though I train dogs, and work most liebral men into the ground? As for the 25% sedentary, and 78% not getting basic exercise, how many of those are the skinny little anorexics who barely have enough strength to get off the couch?

Let's take a look at some famous overweight and obese Americans, shall we?

OVERWEIGHT:
Barry Bonds: 6'2": 228 lbs: 29
David Boreanaz: 6'2": 218 lbs: 28
Tom Brady: 6'4": 225 lbs: 27
President Bush: 5'11": 191 lbs: 26
Nic Cage: 6'1": 210 lbs: 28
George Clooney: 5'11": 211 lbs: 29
Matt Damon: 5'11": 187 lbs: 26
Johnny Depp: 5'7": 190 lbs: 27
David Duchovny: 6'0": 212 lbs: 29
Vin Diesel: 6'2": 200 lbs: 26
Cheryl Ford: 6'3": 215 lbs:27
Harrison Ford: 6'1": 218 lbs: 29
Brendan Fraser: 6'3": 234 lbs: 29
Richard Gere: 5'11": 187 lbs: 26
Ethan Hawke: 5'9": 172 lbs: 25
Hugh Jackman: 6'2": 210 lbs: 27
Lebron James: 6'8": 240 lbs: 26
Dale Jarrett: 6'2": 200 lbs: 26
Bobby Labonte: 5'9": 170 lbs: 25
Nick Lachey: 5'10": 180 lbs: 26
Karl Malone: 6'9": 259 lbs: 28
Dr. Phil McGraw: 6'4": 240 lbs: 29
Mark McGuire (playing weight): 6'5": 250 lbs: 30
Donovan McNabb: 6'3": 240 lbs: 30
Yao Ming: 7'6": 310 lbs: 27
Brad Pitt: 6'0": 203 lbs: 28
Keanu Reeves: 6'1": 223 lbs: 29
Cal Ripken: 6'4": 210 lbs: 27
Andy Roddick: 6'2": 197 lbs: 25
Will Smith: 6'2": 210 lbs: 27
Sammy Sosa: 6'0": 220 lbs: 30
Denzel Washington: 6'0": 199 lbs: 27
Bruce Willis: 6'0": 200 lbs: 29
Billy Zane: 6'2": 210 lbs: 27

OBESE:
Mel Gibson 5'9": 214 pounds: 32
Matt LeBlanc: 5'11": 218 lbs: 30
The Rock (Dwayne Johnson): 6'5": 275 lbs: 33
Arnold Schwarzenegger: 6'2": 257 lbs: 33
Sylvester Stallone: 5'9": 228 lbs: 34
Mike Tyson: 5'11 ½": fighting weight between 218-235: 30-32


Now that list is heavy on the men, but I'd like to mention another "obese" American woman Venus Williams. She would kick most skinny guy's butts without thinking twice about it. But the fat police have put her in the "obese" range. How exactly can someone rank #3 in a sport, yet be obese? How can a woman who has 8% body fat be classified obese? Could it be because the BMI is nothing but a lazy mans way of classifying people?

It's also shocking how the "obesity epidemic" started on the exact same day that the CDC decided to lower the number for overweight from 27 to 25. Shocking how that happened.

[Wide-Open]

Originally Posted by McGrath

What I see in every streets corner of America is overweight persons who shortened their life by years.

You haven't even been a visitor to the US, have you?

[McGrath]

During my trip to Canada I visited Buffalo.
Even in Canada fast food restaurants were CROWDED with overweight persons eating like they're having their last meal. (but I must recognize burgers tasted great!)

Buffalo was roughly the same...

I've never seen so many homeless persons and obese persons in my life (I live in France)

[James Hutchins]

So you are basing your knowledge of Americans on what you saw in Canada and what you saw in Buffalo NY. You do realize that 98% of the people in Buffalo are visitors from Canada looking to buy US products at a discount, don't you? You need to visit Des Moines (they would never let a God hater like you in Freehold) to see real Americans. Here are typical real Americans. The first shot is of some Demoncrats (just to be fair) that are a tad chubby. But certainly not fat. Lets see what you look like!

[GranddaddyPurp]

Originally Posted by Michelle1991

Hello Christian friends


First of all I have to say that this is differently not an attempt to cheat.

It’s just that Mom gave me a D in Social Science last week (My report on The King of Sweden vs. a democratic system), which is why I need at least a B in Creation Science II to pass my High School Exam (And I really want to go to Home University so bad)


Mom’s first question about the creation and shape of the Earth seems fairly easy, since (In addition to all the other overwhelming evidence in this Godly forum) the stars are visible all year which obviously rules out the possibility of a round and turning earth (This would turn our back on the stars at winter time, right?)


However, the second question about how and when the dinosaurs died is bit tricky and leave me with the conclusion that God killed them all with his great flood 5000 years ago (Genesis 7: 11 -24) because the where to big (or evil) to fit into the ark


Genesis 6:15 (King James Version): And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be threehundredcubits, the breadth of it fiftycubits, and the height of it thirtycubits.


Am I right about those dimensions seems way too small for big and evil dinosaurs or could there be a better explanation?


Any help would be much appreciated

I'll try to answer your questions to the best of my knowledge.

The shape of the earth is an easy one. It's obviously round. Now I know what you're thinking, "How could this be possible?" Luckily for you, I've got some answers that should look good on paper. First off, your stars question. You see, everything exists on a three dimensional plane. There are things above us as well as below us. It's the same as climbing a tree and looking down at the things below you. Now just pretend you're the earth, and everything around you is space and the stars. As the earth turns, we can see the stars because they're all around us. With the right equipment it's even possible to see stars during the day! What's even cooler is that we look at different stars from season to season. The stars we see in the summer change in the winter. Some stars will always be in the sky because of their place high in the sky, but those low on the horizon will move out of view. The shape of the earth is also the reason people in the northern hemisphere look at a completely different set of stars that those in the southern hemisphere.
Another compelling piece of evidence is in our earth's molten core. You see, the earth is a very large, very heavy thing. This causes a lot of pressure on the rocks and metals that reside in the center of our planet. And with great pressure comes great heat. The heat then melts the rocks and metals resulting in the magma you can see oozing from the earth in places like Hawaii. If you're having trouble understanding the pressure=heat argument, you can find proof in the way a diesel engine works. The cylinders compress the fuel to dangerous levels. This causes atoms to run into each other, creating friction. That friction causes heat. Believe it or not, these types of engines don't use any type of spark. Just pressure.

One could even go so far as to use the earth's weather patterns to prove the shape of the earth, but I think the provided examples will be enough. If you want more information however, feel free to ask.

The death of the dinosaurs is a difficult question to answer since there weren't any people around to write about it! There's a few key points that are used to establish the most accepted theory. This theory states that an object from space crashed down on our planet with enough force to cause a mass extinction. I know this may sound crazy, but it happens all the time. Large impacts are just a lot more uncommon. If you don't believe me, just look at the moon, it's covered in craters.
Proof for this theory lies in Mexico on the Yucatan Peninsula. When looking at topographical maps of the area you can see an odd bowl shape deep under the ocean. Part of this bowl comes out of the ocean forming part of the peninsula itself. Another piece of evidence lies hundreds of feet underground. You see, a way to tell the past of the earth is by digging deep underground and looking at the layers in the soil and rock. Different conditions above ground would affect the soil, causing it to have a different look. When dating these layers back to the time of the dinosaurs extinction we find a very odd type of metal. This metal cannot be formed on earth because the correct conditions do not exist. This metal has, however, been found in collected meteors. The metal deposits are also much, much thicker near the estimated point of impact. And yet ANOTHER piece of proof is in a type of volcanic glass found it Mexico. It's called Obsidian. You see, obsidian glass is formed when rock is heated to temperatures high enough to melt the rock, and then the rock cools very quickly. When the giant meteor hit the planet, the incredible force blasted away the ocean where it hit and created a giant crater. The blast also heated up the rock so much that it melted. Soon-thereafter the water flowed back to fill the hole causing it to cool very quickly. This created the obsidian glass.

I hope I could be of help! Good luck on your exam!

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by GranddaddyPurp

I'll try to answer your questions to the best of my knowledge.

The shape of the earth is an easy one. It's obviously round. Now I know what you're thinking, "How could this be possible?"

Yes friend, if the earth was round it would always be daylight due to gravitational lensing. Gravity bends light so in this hypothetical "round" earth the light from the Sun would just bend along the curve of the earth and make the far side of the earth always light.

[GranddaddyPurp]

Originally Posted by Bobby-Joe

Yes friend, if the earth was round it would always be daylight due to gravitational lensing. Gravity bends light so in this hypothetical "round" earth the light from the Sun would just bend along the curve of the earth and make the far side of the earth always light.

If that was the case then every light we see would surely be bent by our sun. Everything in the sky would be bent towards the sun. That includes the light from our moon. So the moon wouldn't appear round during the daytime, it would be oblong and bent from the gravity lens created by our sun.

Now this doesn't mean that the sun doesn't distort light, it simply does so it a very, very minute degree. It takes an extremely massive object to bend light completely around objects. Even neutron stars don't have this ability.

I do appreciate your argument.