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Default Tolerance - 01-19-2007, 09:45 PM

One of the most common criticisms of True Christianity™ by hellbound trash is that we True Christians™ aren't tolerant. Phony-baloney liberal "Christians" seem to be under the delusion that the Bible commands tolerance. If they actually pulled the shrink wrap off of their Bibles, they would know that the exact opposite is true.

Here is what both the Old and New Testaments say about tolerance for sin:

Ezekiel 33:8-9: When I say unto the wicked, O wicked [man], thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked [man] shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

Revelation 2:1-6: Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks; I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted. Nevertheless I have [somewhat] against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.

These Scripture passages do speak of tolerance, but they don't exactly identify it as a virtue, do they?

Yes, there is a place for Christian love. But keep in mind that true Christian love does not tolerate sin, but instead motivates us to lead people away from it:

Galatians 6:1: Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

James 5:19-20: Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

Finally, some hippy-dippy liberal "Christians" say that the New Testament calls us to be more tolerant than the Old Testament did. Then let them explain this:

Acts 17:30-31: And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by [that] man whom he hath ordained; [whereof] he hath given assurance unto all [men], in that he hath raised him from the dead.


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Default Re: Tolerance - 01-20-2007, 04:45 AM

Well your NOT really toleratant, MSTT love!! In fact, most are INtolerant and overflowing with SELF RIGHTEOUS JUDGEMENTS and ASSumptions!! Someone comes here and you people immediately jump on them and begin making all sorts of UNFOUNDED ASSumptions calling them, usually, HOMERS. I must say, love, I've never been in the midst of soooo many HOMOPHOBIC people. Perhaps, love, if true xtians were a BIT MORE tolerant without the ASSuming and judgements things MIGHT go a bit better for EVERYONE involved. What do you think MSTT love?


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Well your NOT really toleratant, MSTT love!! In fact, most are INtolerant and overflowing with SELF RIGHTEOUS JUDGEMENTS and ASSumptions!! Someone comes here and you people immediately jump on them and begin making all sorts of UNFOUNDED ASSumptions calling them, usually, HOMERS. I must say, love, I've never been in the midst of soooo many HOMOPHOBIC people. Perhaps, love, if true xtians were a BIT MORE tolerant without the ASSuming and judgements things MIGHT go a bit better for EVERYONE involved. What do you think MSTT love?


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God hates homers, and those who wear the clothes of the opposite sex, and commands us to stone them. You've been repeatedly shown the verses which so direct us. Why must you belabor the point ad nauseam? Talk to God about His rules if you don't like them.

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Default Re: Tolerance - 12-06-2007, 07:20 PM

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God hates homers, and those who wear the clothes of the opposite sex, and commands us to stone them. You've been repeatedly shown the verses which so direct us. Why must you belabor the point ad nauseam? Talk to God about His rules if you don't like them.

You're boring and witless, and on the verge of an infraction for so being. Really.
Except that he's not defending homosexuality, he's saying that it's wrong to assume someone is homosexual for no good reason, which he also claims (I haven't read enough of these forums to know) you are doing.

Now, can someone please actually respond to the intent of his post instead of simply side-stepping the issue and attacking him?
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Except that he's not defending homosexuality, he's saying that it's wrong to assume someone is homosexual for no good reason, which he also claims (I haven't read enough of these forums to know) you are doing.
He's a man wearing makeup; fishnet stockings and lingerie. How are we supposed to not assume? Do you want us to wait until he posts a video of himself sodomizing a young child?
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He's a man wearing makeup; fishnet stockings and lingerie. How are we supposed to not assume? Do you want us to wait until he posts a video of himself sodomizing a young child?
Go ahead and assume about him. But the impression I got from his quote as that assumptions are made about many people, not just him. If I'm wrong about this, please tell me.
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Default Re: Tolerance - 01-15-2009, 12:21 AM

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He's a man wearing makeup; fishnet stockings and lingerie. How are we supposed to not assume? Do you want us to wait until he posts a video of himself sodomizing a young child?
That's not him; that's Tim Curry as Dr. Frank-N-Furter, of the Rocky Horror Picture Show, which is purely entertainment. That picture is quite entertaining, actually; it makes me laugh.
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Default Re: Tolerance - 01-15-2009, 12:14 AM

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God hates homers, and those who wear the clothes of the opposite sex, and commands us to stone them. You've been repeatedly shown the verses which so direct us. Why must you belabor the point ad nauseam? Talk to God about His rules if you don't like them.

You're boring and witless, and on the verge of an infraction for so being. Really.
Please hear me out. My intentions are pure, and I believe what I have to say is true.

I'm sorry, I'm trying very hard to be patient here, but it's extremely difficult when you say things like this. It just baffles me that someone could be so... I mean, isn't humility one of the major themes of Christianity? Isn't love? And yet, here you sit, acting like God himself came to you in the night and told you all the secrets of the universe, every single thing people are supposed to do, never once willing to admit that maybe you were wrong. All you have to go on is faith, and that's exactly what the rest of us have. It's really hard to understand why you can't have a mature discussion with anyone on this site. You do realize, of course, that nobody ever actually debates these topics; you instead focus on simple typos or hide behind lazy attempts at insults. How are you supposed to follow God's word if all you do is tell people, while masquerading patience, that you're the only one who's ever going to be right? Don't you realize how many people like you there are in this world, of different denominations? What if a Presbyterian, or a Catholic, or a Wisconsin Lutheran came up to you and told you every single thing that you believe is wrong, and you're going to hell because you don't believe everything they do? It hurts, doesn't it? How can something that causes so much pain and enmity and negativity in the world, something that's the root cause of so many international wars and otherwise unprovoked murders "in the name of God," result in something good for the rest of the world? Isn't that what we're supposed to do as Christians, do good things for the world? Maybe you believe you are if you tell people your version of the truth. Well, what if God doesn't even care about the details? What if God only wants us to believe in Him and give what we can of ourselves to make the world a better place for our fellow creatures? Then all the good ones would go to heaven, and you'll have wasted valuable time that could be spent cleaning up the environment or helping a woman who's been victimized by extremist Christians who believe her spiritually equivalent to Lucifer himself, by the sounds of some of these people. What's worse, you'll have wasted it starting fights. God doesn't hate much, but one thing He can't stand is two people He loves to death fighting. That's happening all over the world. He loves us all, and we're causing Him pain by fighting all the time. What if you had two children and they started beating each other up over something stupid they were each both right and wrong about, but they couldn't resolve in time because they never gave each other the chance to talk it out? Wouldn't it tear you apart, to watch them kill each other rather than compromise and grow closer as siblings? Just imagine that. You don't want to do that to God. I'm begging you, live and let live. If they believe the wrong thing, they'll find their way. The truth means nothing if you don't discover it for yourself. Didn't the man who caught the Ark of the Covenant die because he touched it, rather than leaving its rescue in the hands of God? There's a lesson in that. God still loves them. God will show them the way. It's okay for it to be out of your hands. I assure you, God is more than capable of handling it.
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Please hear me out. My intentions are pure, and I believe what I have to say is true.
As Brother-in-Christ Jack Chick has pointed out, it is possible to be sincere and to be sincerely wrong.

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That's easy. I would just get out my King James Bible and point out how we are right. Of course, that might not even give the Romanists pause, since they put more faith in the babblings of a devil in a white dress than they do in God's Word.

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I nominate your post for the "Least Appropriate Use of the Indicative Mood" award. If God didn't care about the details, the Bible would be awfully different from what it is.

We know our God because He has revealed Himself through Scripture. How do you know your god, or did you just make him up one morning?


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And yet, here you sit, acting like God himself came to you in the night and told you all the secrets of the universe, every single thing people are supposed to do, never once willing to admit that maybe you were wrong.
We aren't making any of this up. It is all in the Holy Bible. Those "secrets of the universe" and "every single thing people are supposed to do" you mentioned -- they are all in there.

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How are you supposed to follow God's word if all you do is tell people, while masquerading patience, that you're the only one who's ever going to be right?
God is right. The only reason we are also right is because we read and obey His Word. These aren't just our opinions here. This all comes from the Bible.

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You ask a lot of What if God this and what if God that questions, and then you proceed to tell us what you imagine God to be like.

We don't have to worry about any of those "what if" questions, because we know what God is like because God tells him about Himself in the Bible.

If you think God is against war, then you simply haven't read the Bible. God LOVES war!

Exod 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

Why don't you take the time to read the books of Numbers, Joshua, and Judges, and then come back and tell us that God doesn't like war, pillage, rape, and killing. Those are the most action packed books in the Bible. I'd love to see the Kendrick Brothers put out a big movie trilogy based on those books.

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Didn't the man who caught the Ark of the Covenant die because he touched it, rather than leaving its rescue in the hands of God?
No, he died because only Levites descended from Kohath were allowed to touch the ark, and he wasn't a Kohathite. If he was, he would have been fine.

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God hates homers, and those who wear the clothes of the opposite sex, and commands us to stone them. You've been repeatedly shown the verses which so direct us. Why must you belabor the point ad nauseam? Talk to God about His rules if you don't like them.

You're boring and witless, and on the verge of an infraction for so being. Really.
What's with the infractions? You know any troll doesn't care if they are banned, warned, gets an infraction or anything. They like to mock, and just show how you "True Christians™" look to everyone else. I have my beliefs, and stick to them. I do believe there was a Jesus, and he was a great man. He helped, healed, and saved so many people from their own self damnation. He gave his life to give light to those who could not see it themselves.

Shouldn't you try to spread his word and not banish those who do not?
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Default Re: Tolerance - 06-03-2009, 04:21 AM

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What's with the infractions? You know any troll doesn't care if they are banned, warned, gets an infraction or anything. They like to mock, and just show how you "True Christians™" look to everyone else. I have my beliefs, and stick to them. I do believe there was a Jesus, and he was a great man. He helped, healed, and saved so many people from their own self damnation. He gave his life to give light to those who could not see it themselves.

Shouldn't you try to spread his word and not banish those who do not?
The Bible commands us to stay clear of unsaved scum. That's why we have that big banner outside our church that says "UNSAVED=UNWELCOME."

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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: Tolerance - 06-16-2009, 08:59 PM

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What's with the infractions? You know any troll doesn't care if they are banned, warned, gets an infraction or anything. They like to mock, and just show how you "True Christians™" look to everyone else. I have my beliefs, and stick to them. I do believe there was a Jesus, and he was a great man. He helped, healed, and saved so many people from their own self damnation. He gave his life to give light to those who could not see it themselves.

Shouldn't you try to spread his word and not banish those who do not?
Because you are not listening. They are spreading the word and you are not reading it. How much tolerance would you like when next week you clearly will have the same attitude? I have to ask the same as others: Why are you here? I came looking for a deeper understanding of my own spiritual experience and not to change an ENTIRE BELIEF SYSTEM belonging to a large group of people written in what history considers the most accurate version of God's word. I never even once thought I would change LBC with my own special personal commentary. Why on earth do you? You have had your little debate and it changed no one here. What are you trying to accomplish? Leave, if you do not like what LBC believes. You have that choice. Go back to your cut and paste quotes from corrupt churches and secular scholars and hang on to it with comfort.


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Default Re: Tolerance - 01-20-2007, 05:03 PM

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What do you think MSTT love?
First, I think you should stop calling me "love" unless you mean it in Christian love, which I doubt. Second, I think that it is you who are intolerant of Jesus. What did He ever do to you, other than provide a way for you to escape eternal damnation? Almighty God temporarily sacrificed Himself to Himself to avert His own wrath, and He did it all so that you could be saved. Does that mean nothing to you?


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Cool Re: Tolerance - 04-06-2019, 05:46 AM

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First, I think you should stop calling me "love" unless you mean it in Christian love, which I doubt. Second, I think that it is you who are intolerant of Jesus. What did He ever do to you, other than provide a way for you to escape eternal damnation? Almighty God temporarily sacrificed Himself to Himself to avert His own wrath, and He did it all so that you could be saved. Does that mean nothing to you?
Two things:


One: In most European countries, the word 'love' is simply used in the same context as 'sir' or 'buddy'.


Two: Don't forget, the original biblical scriptures were the Gutenberg Bible, not the KJB.
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Default Re: Tolerance - 04-06-2019, 06:08 AM

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One: In most European countries, the word 'love' is simply used in the same context as 'sir' or 'buddy'.
And why would we care about this, sweetie? This is America.
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Two: Don't forget, the original biblical scriptures were the Gutenberg Bible, not the KJB.
Vulgate (which is the Bible translation published by Gutenberg) is not the original.
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And why would we care about this, sweetie? This is America.

I'm just trying to clarify.
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One: In most European countries, the word 'love' is simply used in the same context as 'sir' or 'buddy'.


Two: Don't forget, the original biblical scriptures were the Gutenberg Bible, not the KJB.
What's the KJB? A communist mix of the Holy Bible and the KGB?


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