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Default Re: I am Catholic. - 09-19-2009, 02:16 AM

Well, let's just get down to basics here, Mr. "I Am Catholic." The word "catholic" is defined as:


cath⋅o⋅lic

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–adjective 1. broad or wide-ranging in tastes, interests, or the like; having sympathies with all; broad-minded; liberal. 2. universal in extent; involving all; of interest to all. 3. pertaining to the whole Christian body or church.

Origin: 1300–1350; ME < L catholicus < Gk katholikós general, equiv. to kathól(ou) universally (contr. of phrase katà hólou according to the whole; see cata-, holo- ) + -ikos


Related forms: ca⋅thol⋅i⋅cal⋅ly, ca⋅thol⋅ic⋅ly  /kəˈθɒlɪkli/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kuh-thol-ik-lee] Show IPA , adverb


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Main Entry: catholic

Part of Speech:
adjective

Definition: all-embracing, general

Synonyms: all-inclusive, charitable, comprehensive, cosmic, cosmopolitan, diffuse,
eclectic, ecumenical, extensive, generic, global, inclusive, indeterminate, large-scale, liberal, open-minded, unbigoted, universal, unprejudiced, unsectarian, whole, wide, world-wide

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Catholic means of broad or liberal scope

Antonyms: narrow, specific

Main Entry: broad-minded

Part of Speech: adjective

Definition:
liberal

Synonyms: advanced, dispassionate, flexible, free-thinking, indulgent, liberal, open, open-minded, permissive, progressive, radical, receptive, tolerant, unbiased, unbigoted, undogmatic, unprejudiced


Now, do any of these definitions or synonyms fit the declarations and definitions of True Christianity™ as given here at Landover Baptist? Of course not--in fact, just the opposite! By no means are we progressive, radical, eclectic, permissive, universal, cosmic, or any of the other words in that literary dump (may God forgive me) I've assembled above. You see, we have our instructions, and they are very specific and very clear--the 1611 King James Version of the Holy Bible. In that Book, we are given all the information and direction needed by anyone to lead a good, pure True Christian™ life.

As far as your calling yourself a Christian: It's time to either fish or cut bait. Unless you actually enjoy losing debate after debate with our learned Church Pastors while putting into jeopardy your God-given immortal soul--for which Jesus died!--you had better concede that we are right and you are wrong. We are right because we heed the Holy Writ of the 1611 King James Holy Bible, the divine and infallible Word of a loving and just God, and you are wrong because you do not.

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Default Re: I am Catholic. - 09-19-2009, 02:52 AM

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What is this picture supposed to prove? Maybe she was ministering to her? You don't know.
I do know. She was collecting a check. Shameful.

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Public displays of faith. Aka, advertising your religion by praying in public for the purpose of public viewing. This is not the intention of this video anymore than a cross on the side of the road is for the intention of converting. This is however, a minor issue.
And there you have it in a nutshell. Catholics think that following the Word of God is a "minor issue."


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Default Re: I am Catholic. - 09-19-2009, 02:59 AM

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..an opinion of your own?
Then you see my point. It is my opinion vs. yours. To what end would you have us argue about this simple picture?

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I call BS (and I don't mean Biblical Science) You selected the ground here and you lost the battle.
You tell me you don't go to Church? You tell me all of your worship is done in a closet?
You deny the true intention of this passage. It is not to only pray in a closet. That it is not what it means. Period. If we were in a group and I asked you to lead us in prayer would you deny it? What are you, a closet worshiper? Do you really not pray in front of others?

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Already explained - it's not there.
Don't even post your opinions. Please. You waste both of our time.

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A straight forward lie on the part of rome. It is symbolic. "The Holy Bible, KJV1611, was written by men divinely inspired and is God's revelation of Himself to man. It is a perfect treasure of divine instruction. It has God for its author, salvation for its end, and truth, without any mixture of error, for its matter. Therefore, all Scripture is totally true and trustworthy.
Well first off, where did you quote this from?
Second, do they have the authority to claim the KJV correct?


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Default Re: I am Catholic. - 09-19-2009, 03:03 AM

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I do know. She was collecting a check. Shameful.
And why so? Does the Bible forbid it?

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And there you have it in a nutshell. Catholics think that following the Word of God is a "minor issue."
Haha. Praying in public is a minor issue by comparison. Why? Because elsewhere I am disproving the KJV and asserting Roman Catholic authority.

And by these two points, all else will fall into place.

But thank you once again. You landovers just love to hand out your opinions.


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Default Re: I am Catholic. - 09-19-2009, 06:34 AM

[QUOTE=Catholic - Not Christian;401633]Then you don't sin? Is that your claim?

Romans 3:23 "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"

These passages are there to motivate you to do better! You want abideth in God? Sinneth not. Etc.
It is not because you abide in Him that you do not sin (your personal interpretation, contradicting scripture)
It is because you do not sin that you abide in Him. (congruent with scripture)[/quote]

for all have sinned. It's past tense.

Now if we are all constantly sinning as you say, how can anyone abide in God?

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Wow. You really don't know what you're talking about.

Jesus tells everyone to eat His flesh and drink His blood. We cannot all individually crucify Christ. If this is really what he meant here, then what about the last supper? Do you not see a parallel? He tells them to eat his flesh, then at the last supper "take and eat, this is my body".

It's so simple! How can you deny it? Is it really that hard?

The Eucharist is foretold and prefigured.

Exodus 12:8, 46 - Paschal lamb had to be eaten
Exodus 16:15 - "This is the bread which the LORD has given you to eat" (manna)
Malachi 1:11 - "everywhere they bring sacrifice to my name, and a pure offering"
John 6:32-60 - (The Bread of Life discourse - Jesus refers back to the manna of the Old Testament. He is talking about real food here)
You are reading what you want into those passages. Here's what Jesus thinks of people who don't understand figures of speech concerning bread:



Matthew 16: 5And when his disciples were come to the other side, they had forgotten to take bread.
6Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
7And they reasoned among themselves, saying, It is because we have taken no bread.
8Which when Jesus perceived, he said unto them, O ye of little faith, why reason ye among yourselves, because ye have brought no bread?
9Do ye not yet understand, neither remember the five loaves of the five thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?
10Neither the seven loaves of the four thousand, and how many baskets ye took up?
11How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees? 12Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.



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"We don't believe the things Jesus said in parables."
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Sounds to me like an outright rejection of what Jesus himself said.
Yes, we don't believe in them the way you do. We understand what Jesus was doing.

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No. I believe He spoke in parables so that those who were not enlightened would not understand, such as the scribes and pharisees, however we, as Christians have an understanding of these parables.
What about these passages?

2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

1 Kings 22:23 Now, therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee.
2 Chronicles 18:22 Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets.
Jeremiah 4:10 Ah, Lord GOD! surely thou hast greatly deceived this people.
Jeremiah 20:7 O Lord, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived.
Ezekiel 14:9 And if a prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet.
John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

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I believe that God is everywhere. Except Hell. Why? Because that is what Hell is!! It is a spiritual separation from God!
I just told you that...
Omnipresent means everywhere. It does not mean present everywhere except one place. And I just showed you Scripture that in no uncertain terms shows that even in hell God is present.

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Default Re: I am Catholic. - 09-19-2009, 06:38 AM

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The only things you ever have to say are opinions.

Why don't you step down and let Heathen Basher do his work?
How dare you use my name as a tool in attacking our Godly Pastor?! After all this time I have spent talking to you, I feel very betrayed. If you continue to be so rude, I will simply put you on my ignore list.
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Default Re: I am Catholic. - 09-19-2009, 08:23 PM

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for all have sinned. It's past tense.

Now if we are all constantly sinning as you say, how can anyone abide in God?
Matthew ch6 v12a [part of the Lord's Prayer] - "Forgive us our sins" If you do not (no longer) sin, then why do you - I assume you do - pray this prayer? If you have sinned, and have asked for forgiveness, why keep asking for forgiveness for sins you've been forgived for?

I don't believe that you haven't sinned today. I do believe that if you ask God for forgiveness, he will forgive you and your sin is washed away. It makes no difference to me if you have sinned or not. I don't care what you may or may not have done in the past, or what you may or may not do in the future. I do know that you will be forgiven though. Of course, we shouldn't 'aim' to sin knowing that we will be forgiven, but as humans we do sin, even if it is only going 5mph over the speed limit or forgetting to indicate at a junction.

In effect, I guess you haven't sinned, because you have been forgiven for your sins so your sins - whether old or recent - have been washed away and no longer exist (and Praise the Lord for that!). If such is the case though, why not say that instead of saying you haven't sinned, especially with people who will not believe you on it?

As for Jesus' attitide to forgiveness, this is what he's said on the matter:

Matthew ch18 vv21-22:
Then came Peter to him, and said, "Lord, how oft shall my brother sin me, and I forgive him? Till seven times?" Jesus saith unto him, "I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven."
Of course, the literal translation to this is that we should only forgive people for 490 times. I have heard it said thaty by saying 'seventy times seven' was basically saying 'always' as 490 was a too high number for comprehension back then; while I don't agree with the latter part of that I do with the former bit.
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You tell me you don't go to Church? You tell me all of your worship is done in a closet?
We go to church. We don't pray during our church services, though. We listen to sermons, bear witness to the Resurrection, chastise sinners, shave the heads of women who show up without hats, and occasionally speak in tongues. I understand that there are several thousand prayer closets in the main chapel in Freehold (I'm moving up on the waitlist to get tickets, it looks like I'll be able to see for myself in late 2011!) for those moved by the Holy Ghost to prayer.

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If we were in a group and I asked you to lead us in prayer would you deny it?
Yes, just as we would deny any sin. God told us not to pray in public. You even admitted it. So why are you so adamant now that it's a good thing to do. Could it be SATAN?

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Matthew ch6 v12a [part of the Lord's Prayer] - "Forgive us our sins" If you do not (no longer) sin, then why do you - I assume you do - pray this prayer? If you have sinned, and have asked for forgiveness, why keep asking for forgiveness for sins you've been forgived for?
Forgived for? If you're going to spread your lies in our forums, would you at least have the decency to do it in proper English?

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I don't believe that you haven't sinned today.
You're so filled with sin, you can't understand that Christians aren't.

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Then came Peter to him, and said, "Lord, how oft shall my brother sin me, and I forgive him? Till seven times?" Jesus saith unto him, "I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven."
Peter's brother was obviously not Saved, so he sinned.


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