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10-28-2011, 02:18 AM
Today an atheist told me that bats arent birds, this is just so ridiculous, bats are birds, why else can they fly? Even The Bible aprooves that bats are birds
Leviticus 11:13-19.
And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
Every raven after his kind;
And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.
They dont lay eggs, but that doesnt mean they arent birds, there are other animals with fur who lay eggs as well, like the platypus for example, i guess that these atheists thinks that the platypus is a bird as well then, as it lays eggs.
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Re: bats are birds! -
10-28-2011, 03:47 AM
The defining traits of a mammal are hair and that they nurse their young with milk. It doesn't have anything to do with eggs. Reptiles lay eggs as well.
Bird's defining traits are feathers and wings.
I'm pretty sure that verse put bats in with birds because they both fly. I'm not sure what Leviticus would have thought of an ostrich....
Although I just googled it, and it seems like there is some disagreement on the translation of that passage. Some of them mention ostriches, though that seems to only be popular with recent translations.
Anyway, an atheist is going to go with the science definition, which is that anything with fur and milk is a mammal, and anything with wings and feathers is a bird.
That is why a platypus is a mammal, and a bat is a mammal, and an ostrich is a bird.
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Re: bats are birds! -
10-28-2011, 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Laurelin
The defining traits of a mammal are hair and that they nurse their young with milk. It doesn't have anything to do with eggs. Reptiles lay eggs as well.
Bird's defining traits are feathers and wings.
I'm pretty sure that verse put bats in with birds because they both fly. I'm not sure what Leviticus would have thought of an ostrich....
Although I just googled it, and it seems like there is some disagreement on the translation of that passage. Some of them mention ostriches, though that seems to only be popular with recent translations.
Anyway, an atheist is going to go with the science definition, which is that anything with fur and milk is a mammal, and anything with wings and feathers is a bird.
That is why a platypus is a mammal, and a bat is a mammal, and an ostrich is a bird.
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YIC,
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Re: bats are birds! -
10-28-2011, 04:01 AM
I don't think you understand, Pastor.
Leviticus 11:13-19
And these you shall detest among the birds; a they shall not be eaten; they are detestable: the eagle, b the bearded vulture, the black vulture, 14the kite, the falcon of any kind, 15every raven of any kind, 16the ostrich, the nighthawk, the sea gull, the hawk of any kind, 17the little owl, the cormorant, the short-eared owl, 18the barn owl, the tawny owl, the carrion vulture, 19the stork, the heron of any kind, the hoopoe, and the bat.
Is from the American Standard Bible. I was merely commenting on the inclusion of the ostrich in some versions of the Bible.
As to the rest, a question was asked, I explained the answer. Nowhere did I say anything hateful, or imply that a search engine was god - that is ridiculous. I was just using it to look up a verse, and saw that there were differing translations.
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Re: bats are birds! -
10-28-2011, 04:05 AM
You're posting verses from a satanic bible. Read my sermon HERE on how to tell which is the one TRUE version of God's Holy Word.
And then please make a thread of your own in the " Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: bats are birds! -
10-28-2011, 06:47 AM
The Creator defines what a bird is, if God says a bat is a bird then it is a bird. Science clearly has got its definition wrong.
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Re: bats are birds! -
10-28-2011, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel
You're posting verses from a satanic bible. Read my sermon HERE on how to tell which is the one TRUE version of God's Holy Word.
And then please make a thread of your own in the " Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.
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Pastor Zeke, I just checked and it appears this Lanolin person has NOT followed your Godly Advice© and made a self-introduction.
I'm thinking this freak was overwhelmed by the logic of the True Christians® here and has decided to take the trolling elsewhere.
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