[Nobar King]

Originally Posted by Icelandic

If I wanted to be a total nut job, I would just register again and again and again.

The power of Jesus is truly compelling.

[GOD=life]

Originally Posted by Icelandic

I think your superiors know that.

We only have one superior.

Would you like to meet Him?

[Icelandic]

Originally Posted by Nobar King

The power of Jesus is truly compelling.

True, true.

[Brother Alex]

Originally Posted by Icelandic

My guess is that your that old guy from Sauðarkrókur, I will pass that town often this summer. Smáragrund 6 is it not?

Maybe I am, maybe not. Why do you even care? Are you threatening me or something? Why do you hate Jesus so much?

[Icelandic]

Originally Posted by Alexander Jonsson

Maybe I am, maybe not. Why do you even care? Are you threatening me or something? Why do you hate Jesus so much?

Why do you ppl always think that everyone is using things against you and threatening you.

If your that old guy, I WILL drop by, maybe you'll be scared, maybe not. Why would I even care? If your not, then your under 19, most likely 17 years or younger. Then no one here should take you any seriously.

I know your old and everything, hard to keep track and everything that follows being 80 years old. but you can see me answer this question again and again, I do love Jesus, no matter if you believe it or not. Is it the age that is playing you few of it's tricks by making you repeat yourself constantly?

[James Dewitt]

Originally Posted by Icelandic

Why do you ppl always think that everyone is using things against you and threatening you.

If your that old guy, I WILL drop by, maybe you'll be scared, maybe not. Why would I even care? If your not, then your under 19, most likely 17 years or younger. Then no one here should take you any seriously.

I know your old and everything, hard to keep track and everything that follows being 80 years old. but you can see me answer this question again and again, I do love Jesus, no matter if you believe it or not. Is it the age that is playing you few of it's tricks by making you repeat yourself constantly?

I will take old age and experience over youth and stupidity every time.

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by James Dewitt

I will take old age and experience over youth and stupidity every time.

Amen to that Brother!

[Brother Alex]

Originally Posted by Icelandic

Why do you ppl always think that everyone is using things against you and threatening you.

Because that's what you do. If you hate Jesus so much then why did you even come here in the first place?

Originally Posted by Icelandic

If your that old guy, I WILL drop by, maybe you'll be scared, maybe not. Why would I even care? If your not, then your under 19, most likely 17 years or younger. Then no one here should take you any seriously.

And how old are you? My guess is something around 12-14, am I right? Did no one ever teach you to respect your elders?

Originally Posted by Icelandic

I know your old and everything, hard to keep track and everything that follows being 80 years old. but you can see me answer this question again and again, I do love Jesus, no matter if you believe it or not. Is it the age that is playing you few of it's tricks by making you repeat yourself constantly?

Good thing you love Jesus. Next step is to follow His Word™ and take the entire Bible in context. Until then you'll never be anything but a false Christian, in other words: an atheist.

[GOD=life]

Originally Posted by Icelandic

If your that old guy, I WILL drop by, maybe you'll be scared, maybe not.

Sorry, but that's a typical intimidation tactic. You're making your potential victim feel insecure. He doesn't know what to expect. Will you harm him? He can't rule it out. He can't be sure either.

Intimidation and atheism... hand in hand like a homersexual couple.

[True Disciple]

Originally Posted by Icelandic

And I thought you had brains and where a bit more mature then the others. But it's all the same with you "fish oil at Iceberg University". Your not insulting anything else then your intelligents.

1. I never claimed to be more intelligent than my fellow True Christians™.
2. If I was, it wouldn't matter, as you can reach Heaven only through Faith™, not through wisdom or knowledge.
3. Who are those "intelligents," that I have insulted them? Are they little creatures that live under your bed or something?

And what gives you that you know anything about that?

Is it because I don't agree with you ppl. haven't I been friendly enough? Well I just don't want to be destroyed (Yeah yeah, I know you ppl think I will be anyways)

Of course not, you idiot. I gave you a Scripture verse to explain why you are not a True Christian™; you may claim to have Jesus as your Lord, but your works prove otherwise, as you do not do the will of His Father. I understand that you do not want to be destroyed, that's not the point. The point is that you fail to realize that your country deserves it, and do not pray righteous prayers like we do. This exposes you as a false christian.

I thought this same vers about you ppl earlier. But thats the beauty of the human nature, always thinking that they have it right.

Where did we fail to do the Will of God?

Ok then here you go.

Ég heiti Ottó og kem frá íslandi, finnst þið afskaplega ruglað lið, sama hvort þið eruð kristinn eða fólk sem eru að reyna meika eitthvað point með þessu. En engu að síður hef ég ótrúlega gaman af þessu bulli.

Wrong thread, Otto. Anyway, the only reason we are confused is because you stubbornly refuse to make sense. That's not our fault. I believe we have explained why all our viewpoints are consistent with Biblical teachings. You seldom, if ever, did this. Yet you claim to be a Christian. That does not make sense, you need to understand that.

You know better then that. When someone comes out like "I'm the PhD Dude", then what do you think the typical American does, runs to hide his stupidity. I'm surprised I have to tell you that.

1. Sister Kitty did not run away, so what's the point?
2. Technically, Sister Kitty is not an American. She lives in Canada (many other people here are not Americans either, like Brother Alexander for example).

This just brings you down with him.

I always was with him. After all, we are both True Christians™.

Ok thanks for this, proof that you don't believe in Jesus.

On your request, I've posted an entirely new prayer, specially for you, and this is your response? You are a very thankless person, Otto.

Originally Posted by GOD=life

Þessi vettvangur er frábær staður til að hittast, er það ekki?

Hvers vegna ekki að taka það eitt skref fyrst?

Þú geta mætt Jesú Krists hér.

Viltu fara til himna?

Það er ÞITT val, vinur!

Kveðja í Kristi

Wow, Brother, this is amazing. I never knew you studied demon languages. Did you do it under Dr. Edwards, here at the Faculty of Exorcistic Sciences?

Originally Posted by Icelandic

And if I wanted to be a total nut job, I would just register again and again and again. Ban would do little things, I think your superiors know that.

Why do people always say this, but never actually do it? Jesus protects these forums, Otto. He led you to this place, to give you a final chance to attain Salvation™, but if you reject Him, than He will keep you away from this Forum. It's as simple as that.

Originally Posted by Icelandic

Why do you ppl always think that everyone is using things against you and threatening you.

Because they always are, of course. Are you dim? Okay, that last question obviously was redundant.

If your that old guy, I WILL drop by, maybe you'll be scared, maybe not. Why would I even care? If your not, then your under 19, most likely 17 years or younger. Then no one here should take you any seriously.

Why wouldn't we? There are many underage True Christian™ Baptists posting here, displaying a lot more wisdom than you ever did, Otto. It is people's words, not their age, that matters (though of course, underage posters are discouraged to post without their parents' permission).

Anyway, I completely fail to understand how you come to the conclusion that Brother Alexander needs to be either 80+ or 19-. That just doesn't make sense.

[Icelandic]

Originally Posted by Alexander Jonsson

Because that's what you do. If you hate Jesus so much then why did you even come here in the first place?

Are you paranoid Alexander, or is it that you fear humans so much that you see them constantly threatening you.

Originally Posted by Alexander Jonsson

And how old are you? My guess is something around 12-14, am I right? Did no one ever teach you to respect your elders?

I'm starting to feel that you ppl are lying about your age here. Why would a 80 year old man think that a 12-14 year old person would have any fun from irritating you ppl and would be able to write English, even coming from the eskimo contry?

There are really few of you that do comment like persons over 20 years of age.

Originally Posted by Alexander Jonsson

Good thing you love Jesus. Next step is to follow His Word™ and take the entire Bible in context. Until then you'll never be anything but a false Christian, in other words: an atheist.

So your saying that if a persons doesn't have the opportunity to read the bible, only has heard what Jesus has done for him and excepted him. That God will not allow him in heaven because he didn't read about praying for others destruction? Well that just makes you like the Pharisees.

Originally Posted by GOD=life

Sorry, but that's a typical intimidation tactic. You're making your potential victim feel insecure. He doesn't know what to expect. Will you harm him? He can't rule it out. He can't be sure either.

Intimidation and atheism... hand in hand like a homersexual couple.

Ok this is how you ppl think. Typical example of your paranoia.

This is how NORMAL ppl would think.

There is a Christian person here, at least he claims to be. He has never talk about that you have to be killed or that your place is in hell, thats what you ppl have been doing. With the right mind, it is supposed to be me that should be scared of you ppl. But since I don't fear anything but God, I'm willing to meet another Christian to talk about why we don't agree at all. Wouldn't harm anyone, but still you make it a big seen to meet one soul, equal to the big deal you made about sharing your prayers. If I did wanted to hurt him, having his home address, I would surly just do so without him inviting me. That again shows how immature your minds are still.

And for God, what would happen if I would harm him, God would see him then as a brave Christian soldier that tried his best to save a soul. Right?

Originally Posted by True Disciple

1. I never claimed to be more intelligent than my fellow True Christians™.
2. If I was, it wouldn't matter, as you can reach Heaven only through Faith™, not through wisdom or knowledge.
3. Who are those "intelligents," that I have insulted them? Are they little creatures that live under your bed or something?

1. I never claimed that you did claim you where more intelligent. I just told you what happens when persons come forward with claims that there brain works like a charm because they are studying something that will give them PhD (which wouldn't impress me much, master degree would be something, but just a degree, so nothing to be impressed about)

2. I'm going to agree with you there. Romans 10:9 (King James Version)

3. This is just silly. But, yes if that makes you feel any better, then why not

Originally Posted by True Disciple

Of course not, you idiot. I gave you a Scripture verse to explain why you are not a True Christian™; you may claim to have Jesus as your Lord, but your works prove otherwise, as you do not do the will of His Father. I understand that you do not want to be destroyed, that's not the point. The point is that you fail to realize that your country deserves it, and do not pray righteous prayers like we do. This exposes you as a false christian.

No you showed me a verse that talks about that not everyone that calls himself Christian are truly Christian. You didn't proof anything of my doings where wrong. You fail there. Maybe my country deserves allot of things, America deserves allot of things to, Holland and Germany also. But I don't go out there praying for there destruction, I pray rather for the ppl soul, for I love my neighbor as I love myself Galatians 5:14 (King James Version)/James 2:8 (King James Version)

Originally Posted by True Disciple

Wrong thread, Otto. Anyway, the only reason we are confused is because you stubbornly refuse to make sense. That's not our fault. I believe we have explained why all our viewpoints are consistent with Biblical teachings. You seldom, if ever, did this. Yet you claim to be a Christian. That does not make sense, you need to understand that.

Well it's obvious that most of you don't like me at all. So why don't you just celebrate over the fact that I only post in this thread and ain't going crazy by flooding your precious ChatBoard.

And you need to understand that you don't go to heaven by how much you read, you go to heaven because of your personal relationship with Jesus/God.

Originally Posted by True Disciple

1. Sister Kitty did not run away, so what's the point?
2. Technically, Sister Kitty is not an American. She lives in Canada (many other people here are not Americans either, like Brother Alexander for example).

1. Do we need to keep this conversation on?
2. Well you are keeping her conversation on and she's not in it anymore. I think that everyone except for you ppl would easily see that.

Originally Posted by True Disciple

I always was with him. After all, we are both True Christians™.

What ever this True Christian™ meens. It still puts you two so extremely low on the intelligent bar when he was talking about greenland as green and iceland as covered in ice. It still makes you look extremely stupid even though you don't believe me.

Originally Posted by True Disciple

On your request, I've posted an entirely new prayer, specially for you, and this is your response? You are a very thankless person, Otto.

Sry for that, but thanks. I still stand by my earlier claim.

Originally Posted by True Disciple

Why do people always say this, but never actually do it? Jesus protects these forums, Otto. He led you to this place, to give you a final chance to attain Salvation™, but if you reject Him, than He will keep you away from this Forum. It's as simple as that.

I didn't say anything about if or if not I was going to do this, so I'm not that ppl your talking about. I just told you that if I would wanted to go nuts I could do this. I think the more likely explanation is that I'm only in ONE thread, and I'm not going nuts spamming your whole forum.

Originally Posted by True Disciple

Because they always are, of course. Are you dim? Okay, that last question obviously was redundant.

Well isn't it just how life is. If you have an opinion then you can expect that there is someone else with different opinion. Thats just how life is, you'll probably learn that when you get older. It's not ppl trying to do or use something against you, it's just how things are.

Originally Posted by True Disciple

Why wouldn't we? There are many underage True Christian™ Baptists posting here, displaying a lot more wisdom than you ever did, Otto. It is people's words, not their age, that matters (though of course, underage posters are discouraged to post without their parents' permission).

No thats only ppl that agree with you that you call more intelligent. You really need to learn what intelligence are. Ever heard of a IQ test?

Originally Posted by True Disciple

Anyway, I completely fail to understand how you come to the conclusion that Brother Alexander needs to be either 80+ or 19-. That just doesn't make sense.

No wonder you fail to understand.

But here is a little story for you. Since I live in a country that holds up to only 300 thousand ppl today. I just went to my þjóðskrá, which is located in my private internet bank. Wrote his name in the þjóðskrá column and up came every person that lives in Iceland that carries the name Alexander Jónsson in it. So the next thing I did, since they display everyones ID and home address, I looked at the years every one was born, and guess what, there was one 19 year old, two or three 17 year old and the rest was born 2000 something. But then, I saw this ID number that said that someone was born 1931 with the name Alexander Jónsson. You do the math, I could do it for you again if this is to hard for you to understand

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Originally Posted by Icelandic

[...]So your saying that if a persons doesn't have the opportunity to read the bible, only has heard what Jesus has done for him and excepted him. That God will not allow him in heaven because he didn't read about praying for others destruction? Well that just makes you like the Pharisees.

OK son, that's just as far as I needed to read to mark you out as a false Christian; a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Read this first, so even you will know where I'm coming from: Landover Baptist Faith and Message statement
"The Holy Bible, KJV1611, was written by men divinely inspired and is God's revelation of Himself to man. It is a perfect treasure of divine instruction. It has God for its author, salvation for its end, and truth, without any mixture of error, for its matter. Therefore, all Scripture therein is totally true and trustworthy.”

Let's assume that you want to learn another language; your most basic need is a book that will lay down the spelling and grammar. Oh, yes, you can go to the country and learn directly from the people, but all you will learn is their regional accent and their grammatical and spelling mistakes.

You now go for your exam, your final exam, the exam for which there is no re-sit. You fail. You fail because you never had the book, the final authority.

See what I'm getting at boy?

Read the Book or you will not see Heaven.

[True Disciple]

Originally Posted by Icelandic

So your saying that if a persons doesn't have the opportunity to read the bible, only has heard what Jesus has done for him and excepted him. That God will not allow him in heaven because he didn't read about praying for others destruction? Well that just makes you like the Pharisees.

No, it makes us True Christians™. These are Biblical teachings, and your denial of them only further confirms that you aren't a Christian. Consider this:

John 14:6:
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Only who believes in Jesus can enter Heaven:

Galatians 2:16:
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Romans 10:6-10:
But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

For your information, we do not believe that people who never heard of Jesus go to Hell because we like to believe that. We believe it because it is in the Bible, that's the only reason. Is a True Christian™ a hypocrite because he follows the Bible to the letter? That doesn't make an ounce of sense, Otto.

If I did wanted to hurt him, having his home address, I would surly just do so without him inviting me. That again shows how immature your minds are still.

The reason you talk about visiting him instead of really visiting him is because you apparently want to threaten first. Of course you could attack him without threatening to do so. But it is your threats we are talking about, Otto.

And for God, what would happen if I would harm him, God would see him then as a brave Christian soldier that tried his best to save a soul. Right?

That doesn't give you an excuse to maim and kill, you know. You have a warped sense of morality.

master degree would be something, but just a degree, so nothing to be impressed about

I already have three master's degrees, you retard! How do you think I gained access to those PhD's?

No you showed me a verse that talks about that not everyone that calls himself Christian are truly Christian. You didn't proof anything of my doings where wrong. You fail there.

I have explained before why your doings were wrong. Try to keep up. You criticize us for following the Bible, and you didn't raise your voice in protest when Iceland inflicted Lazytown upon America, or when a lesbian was elected president of your country. That exposes you as a false christian.

Maybe my country deserves allot of things, America deserves allot of things to, Holland and Germany also.

I never denied that. But this thread is about Iceland, not about any of those other countries.

But I don't go out there praying for there destruction, I pray rather for the ppl soul, for I love my neighbor as I love myself Galatians 5:14 (King James Version)/James 2:8 (King James Version)

You are free to do that, but it is ridiculous to state that we are wrong for doing it differently. Again, my prayers are taken straight from Scripture. If you say that my prayers are wrong, then you say Scripture is wrong, which means that you cannot possibly be a christian.

And you need to understand that you don't go to heaven by how much you read, you go to heaven because of your personal relationship with Jesus/God.

That is completely true, of course. I can't remember ever implying you could go to Heaven by reading things.

Sry for that, but thanks. I still stand by my earlier claim.

Which one do you mean?

I didn't say anything about if or if not I was going to do this, so I'm not that ppl your talking about. I just told you that if I would wanted to go nuts I could do this. I think the more likely explanation is that I'm only in ONE thread, and I'm not going nuts spamming your whole forum.

Otto, do you really think this impressus us in the slightest? Jesus protects these forums. Trolls never had a chance here. You are tolerated here because our Godly Moderators thinik there might be some hope for you still. I still agree with them, I've seen more Godless people repent and accept Christ in the past.

But here is a little story for you. Since I live in a country that holds up to only 300 thousand ppl today. I just went to my þjóðskrá, which is located in my private internet bank. Wrote his name in the þjóðskrá column and up came every person that lives in Iceland that carries the name Alexander Jónsson in it. So the next thing I did, since they display everyones ID and home address, I looked at the years every one was born, and guess what, there was one 19 year old, two or three 17 year old and the rest was born 2000 something. But then, I saw this ID number that said that someone was born 1931 with the name Alexander Jónsson. You do the math, I could do it for you again if this is to hard for you to understand

Well, obviously your database is incomplete then. Or Brother Alexander is called Alex or Xander officially, which would make you miss him in the database.

[GOD=life]

Originally Posted by Icelandic

Ok this is how you ppl think. Typical example of your paranoia.

Interesting. So you are actively digging up information about a person, including his ID number, and that's considered "normal"?

Sorry, but you bear the personality characteristics of a stalker.

If someone disagrees with you on the internet, you will look him up and find him... and then maybe try to shame him on the internet... or worse.

There are LOTS of documented cases of stalkers just like you who couldn't imagine they did anthing wrong, even after they tortured their victims to death. After all, their victims had it coming to them... and everyone "is just paranoid".

An what is YOUR name then, "icelandic". Oh wait, it's A-OK to expose other people, but you wish to stay anonymous.

Originally Posted by Icelandic

Wrote his name in the þjóðskrá column and up came every person that lives in Iceland that carries the name Alexander Jónsson in it. So the next thing I did, since they display everyones ID and home address, I looked at the years every one was born, and guess what, there was one 19 year old, two or three 17 year old and the rest was born 2000 something. But then, I saw this ID number that said that someone was born 1931 with the name Alexander Jónsson.

Blah blah blah. The very fact that you even took this action shows that you're a stalker.

You cannot stand in rational debate, so you resort to intimidation.

Alexander: if you wish to file a police complaint against this stalker, I'm sure the DoF will be willing to help.

[Brother Alex]

Originally Posted by Icelandic

Are you paranoid Alexander, or is it that you fear humans so much that you see them constantly threatening you.

You can threaten me all you want, I don't care. Mocking Jesus however is a serious blasphemy and should not be taken lightly.

Originally Posted by Icelandic

I'm starting to feel that you ppl are lying about your age here. Why would a 80 year old man think that a 12-14 year old person would have any fun from irritating you ppl and would be able to write English, even coming from the eskimo contry?

I learned American when I was ten years old just by reading the King James Version 1611 Holy Bible. Not all eskimo children are mentally retarded like you.

Originally Posted by Icelandic

There are really few of you that do comment like persons over 20 years of age.

What are you talking about?

Originally Posted by Icelandic

So your saying that if a persons doesn't have the opportunity to read the bible, only has heard what Jesus has done for him and excepted him. That God will not allow him in heaven because he didn't read about praying for others destruction?

Yes.

Originally Posted by Icelandic

But here is a little story for you. Since I live in a country that holds up to only 300 thousand ppl today. I just went to my þjóðskrá, which is located in my private internet bank. Wrote his name in the þjóðskrá column and up came every person that lives in Iceland that carries the name Alexander Jónsson in it. So the next thing I did, since they display everyones ID and home address, I looked at the years every one was born, and guess what, there was one 19 year old, two or three 17 year old and the rest was born 2000 something. But then, I saw this ID number that said that someone was born 1931 with the name Alexander Jónsson. You do the math, I could do it for you again if this is to hard for you to understand

Are you stalking me? I think I'm gonna take God=life's advise and call the police. Don't you have any morals at all? I'm just a poor old man, what have I ever done to you to deserve so much hate? Shame on you.

[abel78]

your prayers have been heard.. but maybe not as you wanted.. we have an volcanic eruption here now.. but the best part is thats its a really good tourist attraction..

god surely moves in mysterious ways..

all is well here.. and we are praying for you here

p.s. Reykjavik is pronounced RAKE-yah-vik, with the accent on the first syllable.

with warm thoughts
Björn

[Brother Alex]

Originally Posted by abel78

your prayers have been heard.. but maybe not as you wanted.. we have an volcanic eruption here now...

Wow, you're the first person to tell us that.





Why do you hate Jesus?

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by abel78

p.s. Reykjavik is pronounced RAKE-yah-vik, with the accent on the first syllable.

Why do you think we care about that? It's doomed no matter how you spell it.

[Brother Enoch]

Originally Posted by abel78

your prayers have been heard.. but maybe not as you wanted.. we have an volcanic eruption here now.. but the best part is thats its a really good tourist attraction..

god surely moves in mysterious ways..

Umm, are you not aware that Katla , a huge volcano, always explodes after this little one does? Or is your government keeping that little tidbit of information from your people? It's a three step process.

1. We pray for your destruction
2. Little volcano erupts
3. Katla explodes


And when Katla goes, Iceland will be annihilated, killing you all. Which is exactly what we've been praying for.

[Unsaved and Ashamed]

I have a few questions. I'm sure I'll be banned soon enough, but I simply ask that you humor me for now. I see that my username, which was intended to be "Unsaved and Proud", has been changed to "Unsaved and Ashamed". Clever.

1. Why would you claim to follow the word of Jesus Christ, a man who preached peace, brotherhood, love and acceptance, yet pray for terrible things to happen to people? Did he not say to love your enemies? Was I lied to when I was told that Jesus begged his father to forgive his murderers, for they knew not what they did? Yet you want men, women and children in Iceland to suffer and perish?

2. I'm an unbaptized atheist...well, let's say I lean more towards agnostic. While I lack any form of title and do not belong to any organized religion, I feel that I adhere more closely to the Christian ideology than many Christians seem to. I work as a nursing assistant for a rather meager salary. It's more a labor of love which allows me to pay my bills, yet I love every day of "work" (again, I view it as a labor of love and not work or a job). Every day that I work (and believe me, there's no such thing as an easy day), I help those in need, just as Jesus did. However, I help them because I'm a kind- hearted person and genuinely want to help the sick, elderly, etc. I don't perform these duties because I believe I'll be rewarded by a divine being, which seems to be why many of you do what you do. That to me is the epitome of greed. I've been in churches and I've seen televangelists with their multi- million dollar book deals. Jesus traveled with nothing more than robes and a staff, doing what he could to help his fellow man, not because it would enable him to build a place of worship lined with gold, precious metals and jewels, but because he was a kind- hearted person. How can any of you point a finger at me when you follow Porsche and Mercedes- driving preachers? Wouldn't these people want to return every last dime that they earn (after overhead and necessities of course) back to the church if they were true believers? I'm going to be damned, despite the fact that I help people for all the right reasons, because I don't label myself as a Christian?

3. If god is a loving father who gave us all free will, why would he want us to spend the entirety of our short span on this planet groveling at his feet? Do you want your children to sit and beg you to do things for them all day long, while they grovel at your feet? If so, you're probably a rather twisted individual. It is my belief that, if there is a god, he would want us live out our lives doing what makes us happy, as long as we follow his guidelines (thou shalt not kill, steal, etc). He gave us free will so that we may make our wishes come true on our own, much like we expect our children to do. You're fully grown. Cut the umbilical cord already. Don't pray to god to help you pass tests, STUDY THE MATERIAL! God has more important things to concern himself with!

4. You do not believe in atomic theory!? From your board: "Atomic Theory teaches that matter is made of very tiny particles, called atoms, which react with one another according to all kinds of crazy “rules,” quantum mechanics (a historical mistake as well, but currently ranked #14, so it does not appear in this list). The conflict with the above Passages is obvious. 1 Col. 1:17 very clearly states that things consist of Jesus, and are hold together by Jesus, not some silly “strong atomic force.”

So, the atomic bomb, which the United States dropped on Japan, was an exploding Jesus bomb? Or was that the work of the devil, who prances about tricking people, because despite the vastness of the universe, otherworldly beings have nothing better to concern themselves with than what we're doing here on Earth? Why are you all so convinced that everything is the work of the devil? I read on this board that you people truly believe this- "At night, Satan sneaks into the gardens of botanists, and paints flowers in certain colors, in such a way that it implies a genetic relationship conform the predictions of genetics".

You honestly believe that the devil sneaks around and paints flowers? To trick us? Really? Well, who am I to mock your beliefs. It simply seems like a ridiculous concept to me, but then again, I have a feeling you'll accuse me of being a demon or devil for doubting such a thing.

5. You believe that the bible is a legitimate source, because it claims to be the word of god and you can hold the bible in your hand? The Quar'an, Torah and countless other writings are the alleged works of divine beings. Why are they wrong? They make the same claim and I can hold those books and writings in my hand as well. Why are they lies while your book holds the truth? What about the teachings of say, Buddhists? Buddhists are true pacifists, so does that mean that they're hated by god, because they aren't Christians? Is god so petty and insecure that, even though one may unknowingly and unintentionally follow his word, they'll be punished due to the fact that they lack a label and don't haunt God endlessly with prayer to the point that, even if God is real, he probably can't even hear himself think, because you won't stop begging him for things for two seconds? If there is a god, I suspect we'll never see his return, because you people are the most needy and demanding creatures on the planet! Try doing something for yourself! Carry your god with you wherever you go, sure, but stop begging him to do it for you and help you with it! That's pure, unadulterated laziness. Isn't sloth one of your cardinal sins?

Consider this theoretical situation for just a moment-

You're a teacher and you have two separate classes. Class A only follows your word because they fear punishment if they don't and want a reward if they do. Class B unintentionally follows your word, simply because it's the right thing to do. So much so in fact, that you don't even need to teach them anything. It's simply their nature to act exactly as you would want them to.

Now, graduation time has come and you can only reward one of the classes. Who would you reward? Is anyone here so hungry for ego masturbation that they would choose class A? Simply so that their lust for power could be satiated? Now, let's say Class A represents the members of this board, who follow the bible because they fear what may happen to them after death and want to be rewarded by god and class B represents a group who has never opened a bible in their lives, but lives just as closely to the words written in your holy book, if not more closely, than many so called "Christians?

It seems to me that many of you enjoy putting words in your god's mouth, which he may not necessarily agree with. Especially since his only son came preaching love and acceptance, while I'm posting in a thread on an alleged Christian message board which not only condones, but requests prayers so that horrible things can be brought upon other people. I think I've found the true devil, and his name is landoverbaptist.net.