[Seth Campbell]

Originally Posted by ARealTrueChristian

Pastor Ezekiel,


I am not a papist; I am a Catholic.

pa·pist

/ˈpāpist/






Noun




derog. A Roman
Catholic.




Adjective




Of, relating to, or associated with the Roman Catholic
Church.

So you're telling us you're a catholic, not a catholic. Is that what you're trying to tell us?

You are not the only ones who deserves respect: I know you may find this hard to believe, but God made me too.

Of course God made you


Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

And you may threaten me with being banned but in reality, you are scared. Scared that someone, someone who is a "true Christian" will stumble upon this forum or one of my posts and start to question what you say.

Not scared, just frustrated with your willful ignorance.

Job 28:28 And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding.

Start to realize that God is a God of love, not of hate.

Proverbs 6:16-19 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Maybe you should actually pick up a Bible and read what it actually says, rather than trusting your local pedophile.

Start to wonder about life outside this forum and this church, where men beat pregnant women and say you are going to hell if you wear make-up.

Except God says not to worry about what the outside world thinks of us.

Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.

Sir, how can I respect you or this church when you can't respect me or my religion?

Where does the Bible tell us to "respect" false teachings?

1st Corinthians 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

This is not a church: it is an online forum where supposed "true Christians" tell people they are going to hell.

No, we warn people about the direction their heading. If that isn't love, I don't know what is.

Revelation 21:8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Never do you talk about God's love or about the worth of all people, no matter what race or gender.

Again, what does God say about the unsaved?


Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Never do I see a good, open discussion: yes, you throw out bible verses but how do I know you are living them? Just because you can quote the bible does not mean you are perfect or even good. It takes more than that.

Well step one to "living the Bible" is actually reading it so you know what is in it.


John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Here is one of my favorite prayers to remind me of God's love:

<< copy pasta pagan chanting removed>>

And what does Jesus say about chanting prayers?

Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

That is only a little bit of the prayer but I think it sums everything up. I think sometimes we get so into defending our faith and saving others that we forget to thank God for everything. I think that's what everyone on this forum is doing: so busy discussing that they forget about their relationship with God. I think that's what I've been doing. Maybe you too.

Well you should be getting on your knees and thanking God that you actually found people who are telling you the TRUTH of the Bible. It could save your eternal soul.

Jude 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

Anyway, Pastor, I would just like to say, I wish you the best. I know, an odd way to end this post but you know what, I'll probably be banned anyway.

So you want to be banned, is that it? I personally don't think you should be banned because I think you NEED to hear the words of the Bible.

Go read the section on catholics, it will open your eyes.

Peace be with you, your family, and everyone on this forum!

-Margaret

(A Catholic not a pagan!

No matter what you say, catholics are still nothing more than Roman paganism dressed up in Christian words.

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Seth Campbell

....And what does Jesus say about chanting prayers?

Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
....

You know how many "Hail Mary"s you'll have to say for questioning the Pope?



Oh, wait.

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Originally Posted by ARealTrueChristian

We call our Priest father. And here's what I have to say to the verse "Call no man father on earth, for you have one father who is in Heaven.

Alright, gentleman, have your bibles ready...

In Gen. 45 8, Joseph tells his brothers this, "So now it was not you who sent me here, but God: And he has made me a father to Pharoah, Lord of his entire household and ruler of Egypt." That was from KJ Bible.

Or this one, "I was a father to the poor: And the cause which I knew not I searched out." KJ BIBLE

There are more but the point is, father means protecter or a guide. Yes, God is the ultimate father but he sent other people to help us along the way. For me, including priests and my own father.

The verses you use indicate a father or "dad" relationship. None of us said you couldn't reference your father as a father. There are plenty such references in the Bible. Paul himself even used it to refer to father figures (I Cor. 4:15) The verse is dealing with false exaltation - something catlicks and jew$ have a problem with - such as in giving someone the religious title or office of FATHER, which is what your people do. That directly violates the passage. Here is proof in verses 5 through 8...

5But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, 6And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, 7And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi. 8But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. (Matthew 23:5-8)

So verse 9 then makes perfect sense. But if your position was true, then what application would the verse have? You've rendered it meaningless. It makes perfect sense to us, but not to you...because it condemns you.

Pastor Ed

[Seth Campbell]

Originally Posted by Didymus Much

You know how many "Hail Mary"s you'll have to say for questioning the Pope?



Oh, wait.

Well according to this site there are 9,102 saints and "thousands of saints not yet listed". 17 Saints are supposed to be prayed to today

I wonder if little missie here has prayed for her saints?

And then if you figure each saint has their own prayer.


Meanwhile missie here hasn't offered up one shred of evidence that the Bible supports any of this. I mean I've heard of polytheism, but isn't close to 10,000 gods getting to be a bit much?

[Pim Pendergast]

Originally Posted by ARealTruePapist

Don't just tell me to get out a bible because that can be read a lot a different ways.

If you're reading a false bible, like the catholic bible, perhaps it can be read different ways. At the Council of Trent, the catholic church decided that the deuterocanonical books (Old Testament apocrypha) were on a par with the rest of Scripture. In effect, they added to Scripture, which is expressly forbidden (Deut 4:2; Rev 22:18-19). At what point were the apocrypha divinely inspired? When they were first written? If so, why were they rejected by both the early church and the joos? Or did they become divinely inspired only after 16 (or more) centuries, when your church suddenly decided they were? You can't trust the catholic Bible. But you should read it for yourself to see how many holes there are in it. And then read the real Bible, the 1611 KJV, which has the apocrypha at the end and a note in the foreword explaining that they are non-canonical, and see if you can spot the difference.

You do need to read and understand the Bible for yourself, although I know your catechism tells you you need the church to interpret the Bible.

"The task of giving an authentic interpretation of the Word of God, whether in its written form or in the form of Tradition, has been entrusted to the living teaching office of the Church alone. Its authority in this matter is exercised in the name of Jesus Christ."47 This means that the task of interpretation has been entrusted to the bishops in communion with the successor of Peter, the Bishop of Rome. -- CCC 85

Our position is what you reach when you read the Bible for yourself and take it at face value and don't try to interpret it or twist it around. Don't rely on your church to tell you what the Bible means. Read it and understand it for yourself. That is the key to finding the truth.