[Vantheman4321]

Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor

Hi. Welcome to the forum. There's a link [TOP RIGHT] where you can introduce yourself. I'm afraid I didn't read all of your post because I can't understand how any Christian would listen to this music. Within any written work, whatever its intent, passages having an innocuous interpretation may be found. In the Chemicals’ writing there are innocuous passages too, when taken out of context. But writing fancies is different from writing untruths and for the Christian reader it's untruths which decide the matter. Satan has not taken us, we are both immune from and able to identify his lies.

. These are the eyes and the lies of the taken
. These are their hearts but their hearts don't beat like ours
. They burn 'cause they are all afraid
. For everyone of us, there's an army of them
. But you'll never fight alone
. Coz I wanted you to know
. That the world is ugly
. But you're beautiful to me

EMO culture is 100% diametrically opposed to Christian values at all times. Could an EMO inject some saccharine into the verbal phlegm they spew? Yes, one could. Would it be intentional? I have no idea. Would it be given a context? Yes, absolutely. Satan is the context. Understanding him and his agenda to alienate all life from Redemption for all time, how he uses the EMO to further this objective or the Goth or the hippie or the mass murderer it's all the same to him they all get the job done in their own small corner in their own way extinguishing The Light which is Jesus.

In my example "the world is ugly" bit introduces a soporific theme about "beautiful to me" which probably works in dreadlocked communities or goth dungeons. But the EMO won't be caged for long. Out it comes in the immediate following line EMO narcissism at its finest:

. Well are you thinking of me now? (now)

Just how blatant can they get? This is how their fans do see the world, "Are you thinking about me yet? What about if I do this?"
.
"What about this?"
. [commits some outrage with razorblades, a ferret and The Bible]
"Me. Me! Is it all about me yet?"

But everyone's gone home.

. These are the nights and the lights that we fade in
. These are the words, but the words aren't coming out
. They burn 'cause they are hard to say
. For every failing sun, there's a morning after
. Though I'm empty when you go
. I just wanted you to know

My world is beautiful because I understand the reality of Jesus and appreciate now how empty I was before. How then can I understand a song about emptiness in the here and now? Why would any Christian go looking for the ugly?

Which is why I didn't get through all your post. How could anyone calling themselves a Christian listen to this stuff, let alone enjoy it. Perhaps in your intro you could illustrate how?

It's simple, really... I enjoy it because it gives hope to people that are looking for hope in musical form. YES, THIS CAN BE FOUND IN RELIGIOUS MUSIC, I KNOW, but you must accept the fact that kids are getting more and more interested in other things. Polls show that most youth are atheist nowadays. They want to be different.

But they enjoy it because they can really relate to the men in the band that have gone the depression themselves and know what they are going through!

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Vantheman4321

Oh, not at all! Some people have had traumatic experiences, and can get very angry. It was a warning...

"Nice army base you've got here..."

[Vantheman4321]

Originally Posted by Didymus Much

"Nice army base you've got here..."

Army base? I'm not sure what your problem is.

[Roland]

Originally Posted by Vantheman4321

Army base? I'm not sure what your problem is.

Hi Vantheman,

I hope you appreciate people are not welcome to your ¨warnings¨. I also hope you understand this is not the platform you can use to do so. Please behave.

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Vantheman4321

Army base? I'm not sure what your problem is.

One of them is people in 2017 who don't know what Google is for.

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by Vantheman4321

it gives hope to people that are looking for hope in musical form.

Let's see what God thinks about that:

ACTS 4 .KJV . look up
18 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Notice how God does not include "religious music" which obviously embraces insane warblings from murder cults and soporific dronings about the id masquerading as om it's a long list do I even need to mention whatever Bahá'í sing? God did not say that there's one name under heaven whereby we must be saved and there's also the hope found in musical form. Music is not mentioned at all. As a route to Salvation, what can Apollo offer? If that's all you're after why not swallow a Shulgin blend and bring up some hip-hop? That is considered a musical form. Perhaps you'd look for hope in Andrew Lloyd Weber or the scales of Pythagoras? In a rural town hall you could even find those last two combined but do you go looking for organ performances in the countryside? No. You do not. However warm and calming, music only describes the here and now whereas the future hoped for is eternal. Seeking hope in musical form leads to something hot and disturbing.

HELL FOREVER

[Vantheman4321]

I'm going to answer you with this question-

What about their music makes them a "murder cult?" Hm? Tell me.
I also didn't say any music gives hope. I meant some of their songs do. I see where you are coming from. I do. But when I listen to music, looking for hope, You know what happens? Do I go and worship the devil? Do I mock god? Do I go and kill a man? NO!

I leave with what I came for. Hope. I talked to my fellow classmates about this forum, and most where Christian. I showed them pictures of your responses using my phone. Some liked the band, some don't, some never even knew it existed!

After they read it, they laughed and one girl said- " You can't argue with angry Christians about something they don't understand." Even the teacher, (Whom I am not aware if he is Christian) chuckled.

They knew what you where saying is out of a misunderstanding dude to lack of knowledge of what you are talking about.


PS- some music IS bad. I NEVER said all music gives hope...

[Vantheman4321]

Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor

Let's see what God thinks about that:

ACTS 4 .KJV . look up
18 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Notice how God does not include "religious music" which obviously embraces insane warblings from murder cults and soporific dronings about the id masquerading as om it's a long list do I even need to mention whatever Bahá'í sing? God did not say that there's one name under heaven whereby we must be saved and there's also the hope found in musical form. Music is not mentioned at all. As a route to Salvation, what can Apollo offer? If that's all you're after why not swallow a Shulgin blend and bring up some hip-hop? That is considered a musical form. Perhaps you'd look for hope in Andrew Lloyd Weber or the scales of Pythagoras? In a rural town hall you could even find those last two combined but do you go looking for organ performances in the countryside? No. You do not. However warm and calming, music only describes the here and now whereas the future hoped for is eternal. Seeking hope in musical form leads to something hot and disturbing.

HELL FOREVER

Look man, just go here. It explains it.
https://goo.gl/RcZ9C7

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Vantheman4321

I'm going to answer you with this haphazard mixtape of personal opinions, irrelevancies, fallacies, and assertions, completely absent anything anyone should accept as "proof"

FTFY.

[Vantheman4321]

Originally Posted by Didymus Much

FTFY.

Wow. And what is the proof of MCR being a murder cult?

https://goo.gl/RcZ9C7

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Vantheman4321

Wow. And what is the proof of MCR being a murder cult?

https://goo.gl/RcZ9C7

What makes you think I'm interested in listening to Side B? You've already shown that you cannot form a coherent argument, or know what separates evidence from hearsay.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by Vantheman4321

Wow. And what is the proof of MCR being a murder cult?

https://goo.gl/RcZ9C7

Dear skeptic, the proof you're looking for can be found here.

Now that we've settled that, why don't you tell us about your walk with Christ!

[Vantheman4321]

Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda

Dear skeptic, the proof you're looking for can be found here.

Now that we've settled that, why don't you tell us about your walk with Christ!

Oh. Ok. Where is the proof? I'm looking around............

[Vantheman4321]

Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda

Dear skeptic, the proof you're looking for can be found here.

Now that we've settled that, why don't you tell us about your walk with Christ!

This link sends you to a page that will explain my point. I realize I can't argue with y'all...
https://goo.gl/RcZ9C7

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Vantheman4321

... I realize I can't argue with y'all...

You haven't even tried to. You've presented nothing but personal opinions, anecdotes, and assertions of your own beliefs.


Those are statements, not arguments.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by Vantheman4321

This link sends you to a page that will explain my point. I realize I can't argue with y'all...
https://goo.gl/RcZ9C7

We're not here to argue, dear. We're here to fellowship with Christians who are just as excited as we are that Christ will Come Again in Glory to judge mankind (Matthew 25:31-46), slaughter those who are found wanting (Revelation 14:20), and elevate True Christians™ to Rulers of the World (Revelation 5:10)!

[GaleWhoring the Boring (On Moderation)]

Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda

We're not here to argue, dear. We're here to fellowship with Christians who are just as excited as we are that Christ will Come Again in Glory to judge mankind (Matthew 25:31-46), slaughter those who are found wanting (Revelation 14:20), and elevate True Christians™ to Rulers of the World (Revelation 5:10)!

People get upset when they think that I, for some reason, can't come up with an argument. :S So what are we supposed to do? Just be happy Jesus-freaks?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by GaleWhoring

So what are we supposed to do? Just be happy Jesus-freaks?

As Landover Baptist Church is where the worthwhile worship and the unsaved are unwelcome, I suggest you either repent, or scram.

[Vantheman4321]

Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda

As Landover Baptist Church is where the worthwhile worship and the unsaved are unwelcome, I suggest you either repent, or scram.

Be open minded, try that ��

And I am listening to MCR! SPOOOOOKY!!!

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Vantheman4321

...And I am listening to MCR! SPOOOOOKY!!!

Like the Bible doesn't tell them that there will always be people who freely choose the Devil's side and live for nothing but tormenting the faithful.