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Default Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight? - 10-04-2007, 08:53 PM

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but don't you think that the ten commandments weighing heavier in this matter as it explicitly refers to death by man. if god chooses to wipe people out he may do so but he explicitly forbid it in the commandments.
Why would any of God’s commandment weigh anymore than any others? I hope you are not trying to let people off for outrages like molten images or mixed fiber clothing.

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some ppl might act through the will of god but seeings bums fight would i think ridicule gods priorities...don't you think so?

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Now friend, remember “fight to the death” is merely a colorful figure of speech. A bit of harmless hyperbole and we no nothing of any bums being beaten to death on August 11th, 14th, 22nd, September 5th, 12th or 20th in Brother Montague’s presence in the Des Moines Union Pacific Railroad Yard. Yes Brother Montague admits to giving some bums a certain amount of money but he recalls nothing about saying the words “until one of you useless (expletive) loser dies”.

Now how is watching two bums fight be a sin against God?

Also, you do understand there is a long, long list of people God wants killed. The important point is God clearly commands against breaking the law so as good Christians we don’t kill people were it is illegal.



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Now friend, remember “fight to the death” is merely a colorful figure of speech.
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Well friend, that explains some of the problems here. You see The Bible is written in Jesus Favorite Language® American-English so by not being a native speaker you don't pick up on the complex subtitles of American-English.



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Question Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight? - 10-04-2007, 09:39 PM

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Well friend, that explains some of the problems here. You see The Bible is written in Jesus Favorite Language® American-English so by not being a native speaker you don't pick up on the complex subtitles of American-English.
you may have a point in this but do you want me to say that e.g. the gospel of mark was written rougly some 2000 years ago in the middle east in american-english?

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you may have a point in this but do you want me to say that e.g. the gospel of mark was written rougly some 2000 years ago in the middle east in american-english?

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No, The Bible KJV1611 (the real one) was written by God in American-English.



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Default Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight? - 10-04-2007, 10:07 PM

If bums had any ambition or talent or drive they wouldn't be bums. They are the lowest denominator in our society and frankly it is because of that fact that I honestly don't see a problem with them earning money this way. They need to contribute to our economy somehow even if it is by buying booze. I really can't have much sympathy for folks who are too lazy to even bathe or get a job.
I have more important people and things to worry about.


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Default Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight? - 10-04-2007, 10:55 PM

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If bums had any ambition or talent or drive they wouldn't be bums. They are the lowest denominator in our society and frankly it is because of that fact that I honestly don't see a problem with them earning money this way. They need to contribute to our economy somehow even if it is by buying booze. I really can't have much sympathy for folks who are too lazy to even bathe or get a job.
I have more important people and things to worry about.
yet, without the poor there would be no rich! and didn't jesus heal the bums, live with them, throw out the pharisees (= the selfrighteous ppl with money). hasn't he said that the poor will be the first in heaven! there are the ten commandments! they are not that hard to grasp! RTFM!

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yet, without the poor there would be no rich! and didn't jesus heal the bums, live with them, throw out the pharisees (= the selfrighteous ppl with money). hasn't he said that the poor will be the first in heaven! there are the ten commandments! they are not that hard to grasp! RTFM!

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You say you are atheist, then what value do you have for the ten commandments. Brother Marshall wants to help those bums out due his Christian compassion. With you atheist it is what? dissect them while they are alive to prove the theory of evolution.



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Default Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight? - 10-04-2007, 11:06 PM

Bums and the homeless are essentially worthless to America. they steal, get drunk and rape when they aren't smearing my trucks windshield with a filthy rag for spare change. They need to get on the good foot and get a job. There is no reason for any American to not have a job. Even Mexicans can find work so I KNOW a real American could if he had an ounce of ambition instead of 40 ounces of malted liquor.

Wasn't it Karl the Satanist Marx who said a nation should be defined by how it treats it's poor? Thats asinine. You should define a nation on how well the most successful live and are treated. The poor are wastes of time. Just look at the Katrina leeches, they are STILL worthless and begging for money just like they did before the storm.


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Bums and the homeless are essentially worthless to America.
and yet children of god, formed out of the same mud as everyone! (genesis)

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The poor are wastes of time. Just look at the Katrina leeches, they are STILL worthless and begging for money just like they did before the storm.
yet jesus, especially cared about them...no matter what kind of a bible you have, this is fact! hence, shouldn't we care for the poor who need help, just as jesus did, than care for those who are not in need. isn't this what jesus meant when he talked about the lost brother (e.g. LUKE 15:11)?

and what about the pharisees whom jesus threw out of the temple. they were the riches...

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Perverting the Scripture to condone drunken hobos is nauseating to me.


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Default Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight? - 10-04-2007, 11:32 PM

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Perverting the Scripture to condone drunken hobos is nauseating to me.
why is it perverting? it's clear as day written in the bible unless you are interpreting too much !

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Default Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight? - 10-04-2007, 11:41 PM

So you're saying that because Jesus Christ, Son of God Almighty as well as being God Almighty Himself thinks filthy, urine soaked scabs sleeping behind dumpsters are better than the successful in America?

Thats simply retarded. Jesus wants us to be successful and happy, not reeking of feces and covered in sores. If He wanted us to be that way He wouldn't have healed Lepers and cripples and blindies.
God would have left Lot as a worthless bum instead of raising him up and out of the Devils quandary. He doesn't want us to be useless and crummy and dependant on government for our every need. He wants us to rely instead on Him and His grace. If we do, we are Saved.

Seriously Witch, get a real Bible and start reading it at the beginning, not at John.


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Default Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight? - 10-05-2007, 12:02 AM

Isn't it so typical? Some atheistic eurotrash scum comes trotting into God's favorite forum wanting to lecture US about what God wants.

Why are you so filled with hatred? Are you angry at God because He made you a cheese-eating french sissy? Have you even TRIED to learn to speak American and please Him? Have you ever even asked Christ to wash you clean with His sweet blood, you vile pervert?

God only loves the poor under certain conditions. To paraphrase your hateful rant, "RTFM" and you'll understand what God wants.


Who Will Jesus Damn?

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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight? - 10-05-2007, 12:39 AM

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So you're saying that because Jesus Christ, Son of God Almighty as well as being God Almighty Himself thinks filthy, urine soaked scabs sleeping behind dumpsters are better than the successful in America?
not better...more in need for help

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Jesus wants us to be successful and happy, not reeking of feces and covered in sores. If He wanted us to be that way He wouldn't have healed Lepers and cripples and blindies.
God would have left Lot as a worthless bum instead of raising him up and out of the Devils quandary. He doesn't want us to be useless and crummy and dependant on government for our every need. He wants us to rely instead on Him and His grace. If we do, we are Saved.
some are healed, saved...as you...other still need to be saved. that's exactly what i'm talking about. i see you get my point slowly...

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Seriously Witch, get a real Bible and start reading it at the beginning, not at John.
seriously, if you call me a witch again i take my fleshy broomstick and...the rest will get edited anyways. just because my username ends in 'a' does not mean i am female


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Default Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight? - 10-05-2007, 12:47 AM

hey ez,

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Why are you so filled with hatred? Are you angry at God because He made you a cheese-eating french sissy? Have you even TRIED to learn to speak American and please Him? Have you ever even asked Christ to wash you clean with His sweet blood, you vile pervert?
that's actually a good point...why are you so full of hatred? i mean, god gave you everything you ever dreamed of, right? you'll go to heaven!!! you should be joyously running around the streets . sidemarke: "please Him"...who's the vile pervert now? you're the one talkin' like a sissy.

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God only loves the poor under certain conditions.
SalvationSeeker wanted me to convince that god love is unconditioned. i knew he was right and i was wrong!

thx for you lovely and fast reply...JESUS STILL LOVES YOU!
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seriously, if you call me a witch again i take my fleshy broomstick and...the rest will get edited anyways. just because my username ends in 'a' does not mean i am female
We know that you are a witch, and a radical Darwinist as well. That isn't your real name, its the name of a crappy old demonic song from some forgotten third-rate eurotrash heavy metal band from the 1980's.

Don't threaten us with your satanic incantaions, nancy. Jesus always wins.


Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight? - 10-05-2007, 12:49 AM

Look Cybil, bums are accursed. If they believed in Jesus hard enough He would raise them up like Job and Save them like Lot. Job was cast down as low as the typical street bum and yet he still believed and had faith. Eventually Jesus Saved him and gave him new life. Casting aside Satans grasp and rejecting poverty is the only way to escape it. How doesn't that make sense to you? Jesus wants us to be self starters and high achievers. He doesn't want a bleacher full of fans, He wants athletes. He wants the top of the heap. If you abuse your body with drugs and alcohol He will leave you alone to your laziness and lax ways. Thats NOT GOOD!
You want Christ in your life, not booze and the weed plants.


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Default Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight? - 10-05-2007, 01:23 AM

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Jesus wants us to be self starters and high achievers. He doesn't want a bleacher full of fans, He wants athletes. He wants the top of the heap.
wow, how d'you know? is it in the bible? i must have missed it. the part i read was all about bums actually .

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Default Re: Is it wrong to pay bums to fight? - 10-05-2007, 01:26 AM

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We know that you are a witch, and a radical Darwinist as well. That isn't your real name, its the name of a crappy old demonic song from some forgotten third-rate eurotrash heavy metal band from the 1980's.

Don't threaten us with your satanic incantaions, nancy. Jesus always wins.
i'm REALLY surprised!!! there's a song called "vadkutya"??? . oh, that's lovely!!! do you have a .mp3 or something you can post me...plz?

btw: let's hope hat jesus always wins........otherwise you're in big trouble guys

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