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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
01-21-2012, 02:13 AM
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So just because a book mentions nothing about a chromosome means it doesn't exist, you can't rely on a book to give you solid facts about life.
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So you discovered these chromosomes yourself? How interesting! Do tell!
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
01-21-2012, 02:14 AM
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So just because a book mentions nothing about a chromosome means it doesn't exist, you can't rely on a book to give you solid facts about life.
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Lets say for a moment that I believe you, that just because a book does or does not say something it is not true. Then where did your information com from? Do you just make it up as you go?
I do find you people intriguing. Tell me more!
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
01-21-2012, 02:15 AM
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That's HOW it happens, not why.
The genetic mutation is why
That doesn't strike you as extremely empty
Of course it's empty, life didn't evolve to fulfill a goal, it evolved to continue to exist.
Orly?
Yes, this thread is a perfect example
Never claimed it was
You said evolution would cause stupidity to be bred out, implying that stupidity is a gene.
Nobody's making up their own facts here, except you. Every bit of Scripture quoted here is exactly as it appears in the King James Bible.
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How am I making up facts when my facts have been proven? What says that kings James bible is correct when none of the so called "miracles" that occurred have been repeated?
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
01-21-2012, 02:19 AM
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How am I making up facts when my facts have been proven? What says that kings James bible is correct when none of the so called "miracles" that occurred have been repeated?
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Why would God repeat them, my friend? Do you think He is standing by to put on a side show just for you when you hate Him? Why would He?
The arrogance on these forums amazes me.
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
01-21-2012, 02:20 AM
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Lets say for a moment that I believe you, that just because a book does or does not say something it is not true. Then where did your information com from? Do you just make it up as you go?
I do find you people intriguing. Tell me more!
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My information came from experiments. We tested things and found out from there. I can show you how to discover a chromosome, show me how to turn water into wine.
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01-21-2012, 02:26 AM
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So you discovered these chromosomes yourself? How interesting! Do tell!
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Did I say I discovered them, no. I saw them with a microscope. Millions of people since the chromosomes first discovery have seen them. We know what it looks like and we know generally how it works.
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01-21-2012, 02:31 AM
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Why would God repeat them, my friend? Do you think He is standing by to put on a side show just for you when you hate Him? Why would He?
The arrogance on these forums amazes me.
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But I thought god loved me. Isn't that what you preach? He loves every single one of us. So in order to gain my love, wouldn't he prove his miracles so I can believe in him?
Unless you or god can show me these miracles, I refuse to believe them. I rely on facts proven to me.
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
01-21-2012, 02:37 AM
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...Of course it's empty, life didn't evolve to fulfill a goal, it evolved to continue to exist...
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Unproveable, therefore opinion.
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...You said evolution would cause stupidity to be bred out, implying that stupidity is a gene...
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It's a trait. A trait is an expression of one or more genes. I never said it was a gene.
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...How am I making up facts when my facts have been proven?...
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You've offered a whole lot of opinions (some of them demonstrably wrong). The only fact you've offered (check your posts and see) is that Downs is caused by extra genetic material (a citation in support would have been nice, instead you just ranted away calling people names).
Maybe some anger management counselling would help you.
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...What says that kings James bible is correct when none of the so called "miracles" that occurred have been repeated?...
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Prove they haven't. Please.
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
01-21-2012, 02:41 AM
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Did I say I discovered them, no. I saw them with a microscope. Millions of people since the chromosomes first discovery have seen them. We know what it looks like and we know generally how it works.
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Ah, so you saw them with a microscope and without the benefit of any book you and millions of people decided to call the exact same thing by the exact same word. How convenient.
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
01-21-2012, 04:22 AM
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My information came from experiments. We tested things and found out from there. I can show you how to discover a chromosome, show me how to turn water into wine.
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Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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01-21-2012, 04:36 AM
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But I thought god loved me. Isn't that what you preach? He loves every single one of us. So in order to gain my love, wouldn't he prove his miracles...
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No. God actually hates most people. Look, I can see you just like to pull "facts" out of the air with no evidence so let's play you at your own game. When Jesus comes again He will resurrect everyone who has ever lived and then the vast majority of them will be cast into a lake of fire to burn forever. Don't believe me? Think I made it up?
God does NOT love everyone. God only loves those He has saved and they are the ones who go to Heaven.
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
01-21-2012, 08:36 PM
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
01-22-2012, 03:46 AM
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What does this have to do with retarded mongoloid demons?
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
01-22-2012, 02:38 PM
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What does this have to do with retarded mongoloid demons?
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Please don't use that disgusting word to describe people with Down Syndrome.
As for your video, what did it have to do with this thread either? What I saw was a video that showed a bunch of random pictures and proved nothing about your point. For that matter, stop trying to say that the bible is backed up by science because it isn't. Your bible has no science in it whatsoever, just "miracles." The bible is not an advanced science book, it's a bunch of fairy tales to tell little children so they will obey. Stick to your faith and I will stick to my facts. Do you see scientists say our experiments are backed by faith, no, so don't try to twist it the other way round.
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
01-22-2012, 04:34 PM
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Please don't use that disgusting word to describe people with Down Syndrome.
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Typical God hater. Refusing to call a spade a spade. Terrified of the truth. Have to call the mutant child that is a punishment from God for a parental misdeed against Jesus Christ a 'cute' name. These retards are a daily reminder that God can and will strike down upon you if you refuse to honor Him. You know, every time you praise those rejects of a decent, fulfilling life, you are spitting in the face of God. The only thing these miscreants are good for is sorting trash.
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As for your video, what did it have to do with this thread either? What I saw was a video that showed a bunch of random pictures and proved nothing about your point. For that matter, stop trying to say that the bible is backed up by science because it isn't. Your bible has no science in it whatsoever, just "miracles." The bible is not an advanced science book, it's a bunch of fairy tales to tell little children so they will obey. Stick to your faith and I will stick to my facts. Do you see scientists say our experiments are backed by faith, no, so don't try to twist it the other way round.
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God created everything.
'Science' is just for people who refuse to believe the fact of creationism. 'Scientists' come up with 'theories' which are nothing more than 'todays wild guess' and will be disproved tomorrow by another 'scientist'. Thing is, the Holy Bible explains it all with simple fact. No guesses, no 'theories'. Do you know why? Because the Bible and the heavens and the Earth were all created by the same entity, God. If anyone should have the answer, it would be Him.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
01-23-2012, 06:45 AM
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Please don't use that disgusting word to describe people with Down Syndrome.
As for your video, what did it have to do with this thread either? What I saw was a video that showed a bunch of random pictures and proved nothing about your point. For that matter, stop trying to say that the bible is backed up by science because it isn't. Your bible has no science in it whatsoever, just "miracles." The bible is not an advanced science book, it's a bunch of fairy tales to tell little children so they will obey. Stick to your faith and I will stick to my facts. Do you see scientists say our experiments are backed by faith, no, so don't try to twist it the other way round.
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You put your faith into "science" which is ruled by man alone - who (excluding the True Christians ™) is known for deception and lies, so many throughout time. It's funny though because someone like you would pick up an Entertainment Tonight magazine and believe every word of it, but you reject the word of God - the Bible which was written through man but by God's helping hand.
If you have actually read the Bible you would know that not only is it backed up by science, it IS science, history, future and everything you need know.
Romans 6:23
and this verse truly describes you:
John 8:44
Repent, son. Stop being so gullible into thinking every single bit of science is truth, for it is not, scientists are liars as are weathermen, lawyers and many more it's all about the money.
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
01-23-2012, 09:04 AM
theres nothin wrong with having the goddamn downs! am i right or wat?
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
01-23-2012, 09:24 AM
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theres nothin wrong with having the goddamn downs! am i right or wat?
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No, you are WRONG.
You are a retard. God has made you stupid because of something your parents or grandparents (or further back) did. Get someone to read the Bible to you before God lays the smackdown on you even worse and you end up burning in Hell for eternity.
Repent from your retardedness before it's too late!!! Become a new, non-stupid lover of God!!!
(2 Corinthians 5:17) "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
01-23-2012, 10:39 AM
come on everybody! ive got the downs, lets flop! im a stupid little rat and a little bat, knat?
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Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice! -
01-23-2012, 12:06 PM
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come on everybody! ive got the downs, lets flop! im a stupid little rat and a little bat, knat?
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The liberal enablers that you surround yourself with may be willing to play stupid rhyming games with a retard but we are not. We take the Bible very seriously and God says that handicapped people are not to profane His sanctuary.
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And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 17Speak unto Aaron, saying, Whosoever he be of thy seed in their generations that hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God.
18For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous,
19Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded,
20Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken;
21No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God.
22He shall eat the bread of his God, both of the most holy, and of the holy.
23Only he shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my sanctuaries: for I the LORD do sanctify them.
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