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Default Re: Top Ten Questions to Ask Your Atheist Science Teacher! - 08-15-2009, 06:52 PM

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Default Re: Top Ten Questions to Ask Your Atheist Science Teacher! - 08-15-2009, 07:11 PM

If humans evolved from chimpanzees, why are chimpanzees still around?

Chimpanzees and Humans both evolved from a common ancestor, which, surprise surprise, isn't still around.

Nope. No evidence of a common ancestor. Science has pretty much firmly established we evolved from chimps.

The Big Bang Theory proposes that everything in the Universe started from something called singularity which is smaller than an atom. How can you stuff everything in the universe in that? It's hard enough to stuff four suitcases in the trunk of your car!

The vast majority of the structure of an atom is empty space, if you made a scale model of a hydrogen atom with, the nucleus the size of, say, a golfball, the electrons would be about 500,000 miles away. In a singularity, the atoms are compressed such that there is none of the "emptiness"; you could fit everything into an atom sized space with room to spare.

This is highly preposterous. So if we can say 99.99% of atoms are pure empty space, and there are atoms all around us, how come we don't see empty space. If you and I are 99.99% empty space, we would be practically invisible.


If the earth really revolves around the sun, then why when we look at the sun we can see it plainly revolving around the earth? (And if the earth was moving around the sun, wouldn't we all fly off into space?)

Because from our perspective, the sun is revolving around the earth, due to the earths spin; in relation to the earth, which we understand as being motionless, even though it isn't, the sun does seem to rise and fall, revolving around the earth. Also, lrn2 Gravity. I hear gravity gives you fundamormons alot of trouble.

If the earth was truly moving, wouldn't we feel it? Also, we would fly off because of gravity. The sun has a greater gravitational pull than the earth. We would fly off into the sun.

If women were not created from Adam's rib, why is it that men have one fewer rib than women?

They dont. lrn2 anatomy

Yes, they do.

How do scientists know stars are "millions of light years away"? Have they been there and back? Do they have a tape measure that stretchs that long?

As has been said, the science of triangulation.

But see the problem with triangulation is based on assumptions and conjecture. They measure stars by using the distance from earth to sun as one reference, right? Well, how do we know the distance from the earth to sun? We go back to the same problem as before. Measuring long distances.

Scientists say all our genetic information is coded on DNA. But DNA is an acid! How can you write information in acid? You can write information on a hard drive, but not a liquid!

DNA is not a liquid. And why is it so easy for you to believe that you can write information on a computer hard drive, but not DNA? A bit convenient for your argument isn't it.

Why does the A stand for Acid then? Is not acid a liquid?

People have been wearing clothes for thousands of years. Why haven't our bodies evolved natural clothes that come out of our skin then?

What do you think skin and hair is, if not natural clothing, which protects our flesh from the elements, and keeps us warm. Because we wear clothes, our bodies haven't had to naturally adapt, ie. our skin hasn't had to grow thicker, and our hair has receded from the majority of the human body.

If hair and skin are "natural clothes", I'd say that's a pretty pathetic excuse for clothing! Would you go out in freezing temperatures naked? No, of course not. So if evolution and nature is all about "survival of the fittest" and "the strongest survive", then it would stand to reason that our skin would keep us protected from the elements. Because it is not, it destroys the credibility of evolution.

If there really are millions and millions of species, then how could have Adam named them all? Obviously, there's not that many species then! (Gen 2:18-22)

I will even use your own logic to disprove you on this one. According to your theologists, Adam lived for over 900 hundred years. I think he had enough time.

Wrong. The Bible says Adam did it in one day.

If our brains are just a mishmash of biochemistry, how come chemicals like gasoline or bug spray can't think?

Gasoline & Bug-spray =/= Biochemistry. Also, brains are a highly organized "mishmash" of biochemistry.

Can you prove that?

Einstein said that if you approach the speed of light, time slows down. Once you hit the speed of light, time stops. If that is so, how come light can travel from point A to point B if time is stopped for light?

Time is relative to the universal constant. No, not God kids, but the speed of light. For objects that are traveling close to the speed of light, time slows down, because time is dependent on the relative speed of light, ie. If you'r in a car traveling a tiny bit slower than a train beside you, the train doesn't seem to be traveling incredibly fast, however, if you are walking, the train speeds past you, due to the principal of Relative Speed.

Einstein himself said that the "cosmological constant" was his biggest blunder. Still this does not address the question I posed. The faster you go, the more time slows down for you (and you become physically elongated as well). According to relativity, if you hit light speed, time stops. So if time stops, how can you get from Point A to Point B? You have no time to do so!

Furthermore, it stands to reason that once you hit light speed you would basically become null and void. You would cease to exist. After all, you could never come out of light speed since there is no time available to a single action. There is no time available for your atoms to vibrate. You cease to exist.

Yet light travels at light speed and exists. This is proof that relativity is just conjecture and science fiction.



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Default Re: Top Ten Questions to Ask Your Atheist Science Teacher! - 08-15-2009, 07:11 PM

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Default Re: Top Ten Questions to Ask Your Atheist Science Teacher! - 08-15-2009, 07:19 PM

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If humans evolved from chimpanzees, why are chimpanzees still around?

Chimpanzees and Humans both evolved from a common ancestor, which, surprise surprise, isn't still around.

Nope. No evidence of a common ancestor. Science has pretty much firmly established we evolved from chimps.

The Big Bang Theory proposes that everything in the Universe started from something called singularity which is smaller than an atom. How can you stuff everything in the universe in that? It's hard enough to stuff four suitcases in the trunk of your car!

The vast majority of the structure of an atom is empty space, if you made a scale model of a hydrogen atom with, the nucleus the size of, say, a golfball, the electrons would be about 500,000 miles away. In a singularity, the atoms are compressed such that there is none of the "emptiness"; you could fit everything into an atom sized space with room to spare.

This is highly preposterous. So if we can say 99.99% of atoms are pure empty space, and there are atoms all around us, how come we don't see empty space. If you and I are 99.99% empty space, we would be practically invisible.


If the earth really revolves around the sun, then why when we look at the sun we can see it plainly revolving around the earth? (And if the earth was moving around the sun, wouldn't we all fly off into space?)

Because from our perspective, the sun is revolving around the earth, due to the earths spin; in relation to the earth, which we understand as being motionless, even though it isn't, the sun does seem to rise and fall, revolving around the earth. Also, lrn2 Gravity. I hear gravity gives you fundamormons alot of trouble.

If the earth was truly moving, wouldn't we feel it? Also, we would fly off because of gravity. The sun has a greater gravitational pull than the earth. We would fly off into the sun.

If women were not created from Adam's rib, why is it that men have one fewer rib than women?

They dont. lrn2 anatomy

Yes, they do.

How do scientists know stars are "millions of light years away"? Have they been there and back? Do they have a tape measure that stretchs that long?

As has been said, the science of triangulation.

But see the problem with triangulation is based on assumptions and conjecture. They measure stars by using the distance from earth to sun as one reference, right? Well, how do we know the distance from the earth to sun? We go back to the same problem as before. Measuring long distances.

Scientists say all our genetic information is coded on DNA. But DNA is an acid! How can you write information in acid? You can write information on a hard drive, but not a liquid!

DNA is not a liquid. And why is it so easy for you to believe that you can write information on a computer hard drive, but not DNA? A bit convenient for your argument isn't it.

Why does the A stand for Acid then? Is not acid a liquid?

People have been wearing clothes for thousands of years. Why haven't our bodies evolved natural clothes that come out of our skin then?

What do you think skin and hair is, if not natural clothing, which protects our flesh from the elements, and keeps us warm. Because we wear clothes, our bodies haven't had to naturally adapt, ie. our skin hasn't had to grow thicker, and our hair has receded from the majority of the human body.

If hair and skin are "natural clothes", I'd say that's a pretty pathetic excuse for clothing! Would you go out in freezing temperatures naked? No, of course not. So if evolution and nature is all about "survival of the fittest" and "the strongest survive", then it would stand to reason that our skin would keep us protected from the elements. Because it is not, it destroys the credibility of evolution.

If there really are millions and millions of species, then how could have Adam named them all? Obviously, there's not that many species then! (Gen 2:18-22)

I will even use your own logic to disprove you on this one. According to your theologists, Adam lived for over 900 hundred years. I think he had enough time.

Wrong. The Bible says Adam did it in one day.

If our brains are just a mishmash of biochemistry, how come chemicals like gasoline or bug spray can't think?

Gasoline & Bug-spray =/= Biochemistry. Also, brains are a highly organized "mishmash" of biochemistry.

Can you prove that?

Einstein said that if you approach the speed of light, time slows down. Once you hit the speed of light, time stops. If that is so, how come light can travel from point A to point B if time is stopped for light?

Time is relative to the universal constant. No, not God kids, but the speed of light. For objects that are traveling close to the speed of light, time slows down, because time is dependent on the relative speed of light, ie. If you'r in a car traveling a tiny bit slower than a train beside you, the train doesn't seem to be traveling incredibly fast, however, if you are walking, the train speeds past you, due to the principal of Relative Speed.

Einstein himself said that the "cosmological constant" was his biggest blunder. Still this does not address the question I posed. The faster you go, the more time slows down for you (and you become physically elongated as well). According to relativity, if you hit light speed, time stops. So if time stops, how can you get from Point A to Point B? You have no time to do so!

Furthermore, it stands to reason that once you hit light speed you would basically become null and void. You would cease to exist. After all, you could never come out of light speed since there is no time available to a single action. There is no time available for your atoms to vibrate. You cease to exist.

Yet light travels at light speed and exists. This is proof that relativity is just conjecture and science fiction.

Care to name some sources?

didn't think so.

Trust me, i'm a Chemistry Masters student. Not all acid is a liquid.

Also, at the lack of sounding quite clichéd, your understanding of science IS greatly flawed.
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Default Re: Top Ten Questions to Ask Your Atheist Science Teacher! - 08-15-2009, 07:21 PM

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Care to name some sources?

didn't think so.

Trust me, i'm a Chemistry Masters student. Not all acid is a liquid.

Also, at the lack of sounding quite clichéd, your understanding of science IS greatly flawed.
Okay mister hot head, what LIEbral university did you attend?
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I'm 17, and I just answered all your so-called "unanswerable questions"

Also, inb4 heathen scum, i'm actually Christian, I just hate mormons.
Answers are easy -- it is the truth that is hard too get. On the plus side, I see you hate mormons. Thats good.

Sadly tho, your answers are regurgitated talking points from your secular religious leaders that you parrot without any real understanding.

1. I sense sarcasm here. But why or why not is it a surprise that your so called common ancestor is not alive? Seems a little too convenient to me that your "proof" happens to be something that you can't see or reproduce. Where I come from we call that religion. False religion.

2. You say "The vast majority of the structure of an atom is empty space". I assume you mean the atoms in YOUR brain? Now THAT is something that I could believe. But to be serious: I know a sponge is mostly empty space. I know a brick is not. It is common sense. Your "universe a nutshell because sponges and bricks are the same" is not common sense. Try again.

3. Ha! Even your own scientists say you are wrong. They say that motion is relative, and that you can arbitrarily designate any system body as the stationary one and all other objects move in relation to it. So guess what? God picks the Earth. If you don't like it, go argue with Him.

4. "A cervical rib is a supernumerary or accessory rib arising from the seventh cervical vertebra. This abnormality occurs in approximately 0.5% of the population and is more common in females" http://radiographics.rsna.org/content/19/1/105.full.pdf This is from your own heathen scientists. Tho this trait has been slowly bleeding out over the generations, God sees fit to still specially mark a few blessed women with a reminder of how she was created.

5. Again, your own scientists contradict you. Triangles are 3 straight lines. You heathens say that space is curved (whatever that means?). So make up your mind and try again.

6. DNA is dissolved is the cell cytoplasm, much like sugar in water. It is a solution and liquid for all practice purposes. Computer chips are solid pieces of silicon. You weren't even close on this one.

7. You contradict yourself. You say "our bodies haven't had to naturally adapt ie. our skin hasn't had to grow thicker" and yet I see skin adapting quite well! Dark at the equator with more sun, White at the poles with less sun, and brown in the middle. So which is it? You can't have it both ways.

8. Adam spent 900 years total! He has a lot less time in the Garden before he got kicked out. And the Bible says that he named them all before God created Eve. So nice try, but try again.

9. Nothing you said there even remotely made sense.

10. Again your scientists contradict you. Their whole claim is that the speed of light is a constant, and not relative to ANYTHING (180,000 m/s regardless of the frame of reference). You say "Time is relative to the universal constant". Which is a double blunder, because your scientists don't even have a universal constant (except for constantly being wrong).

OK, so rather than parrot this stuff back, do some research and figure this stuff out on your own. If you don't take your scientists' words for it and you do it yourself, then you won't get caught flatfooted like this ever again


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Care to name some sources?

didn't think so.
The 1611 King James Bible as well as pioneering work at Landover University by Professors Bessemer and Ville, the leading creation scientists in the world. It doesn't get any more reputable than that.

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Trust me, i'm a Chemistry Masters student. Not all acid is a liquid.

Also, at the lack of sounding quite clichéd, your understanding of science IS greatly flawed.
All acid is liquid. Unless you freeze it and it becomes acidic ice, however our DNA is clearly at 98 degrees so it has to be in liquid state at this temperature.

To be fair, I have more education than you, young man. Not only have I completed 4 years of Bible College, but I got a dual Ph.D. in both theology and biblical studies. I have been a pastor for over 45 years. So I think I can speak with authority on matters concerning God and His glorious creations (science).



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Default Re: Top Ten Questions to Ask Your Atheist Science Teacher! - 08-15-2009, 07:36 PM

Not all acids are liquid.

Most acids that you may have encountered were likely dissolved in Water, but this does not make them liquid.

DNA is not liquid.

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5. Again, your own scientists contradict you. Triangles are 3 straight lines. You heathens say that space is curved (whatever that means?). So make up your mind and try again.

When they say space is curved, it means it's curved toward an object. This goes along with the black hole theory. It states that instead of curving towards an object, you can go straight to it. Think of moving towards an object as a half circle. You can take the long way, or move outside of space and take the short route.

I can't remember where I read this.


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Not all acids are liquid.

Most acids that you may have encountered were likely dissolved in Water, but this does not make them liquid.

DNA is not liquid.

touting your PhD is irrelevant in matters of science.

An acid can be any chemical that has a PH level less than 7; when in water. It can come from any form, including a solid.

DNA is made of sugar and phosphate, which are joined together by bases. You're all mistaking amino acids with normal acid.
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An acid can be any chemical that has a PH level less than 7; when in water. It can come from any form, including a solid.

DNA is made of sugar and phosphate, which are joined together by bases. You're all mistaking amino acids with normal acid.
An acid can be any chemical, which, when dissolved in water, has a pH of less than seven.

Amino acids are just that, molecules which have both amino and acid groups.
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An acid can be any chemical, which, when dissolved in water, has a pH of less than seven.

Amino acids are just that, molecules which have both amino and acid groups.
Please stop it with the hatemongering already!
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When they say space is curved, it means it's curved toward an object. This goes along with the black hole theory. It states that instead of curving towards an object, you can go straight to it. Think of moving towards an object as a half circle. You can take the long way, or move outside of space and take the short route.

I can't remember where I read this.

An acid can be any chemical that has a PH level less than 7; when in water. It can come from any form, including a solid.

DNA is made of sugar and phosphate, which are joined together by bases. You're all mistaking amino acids with normal acid.
Hmmph! You're just a girl. What do you know?

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