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Default How plants confirm the Genesis account of the fall - 11-15-2017, 01:27 AM

Hellbound God-mockers keep demanding evidence (as though the Holy King James Bible weren't enough) that the fall of man happened as described in Genesis. They need look no farther than their gardens, since plants confirm that it happened.

After God created man, He said what He had given us to eat:

Genesis 1:29 KJV: 29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

That is, God provided us with all seed-bearing, land-growing plants and all fruit trees for food. (You hipsters who eat ferns and seaweed might want to think about that.) Now, however, we know that many such plants are poisonous, including the one that was used to execute the ancient Greek sodomite Socrates.

To reconcile these two things, we need to read just two chapters later, in the account of the fall of man:

Genesis 3:17-18 KJV: 17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed [is] the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat [of] it all the days of thy life; 18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;

In other words, because of Adam and Eve's sin, God cursed even the ground and many of the plants growing out of it, and this is why many plants are poisonous. This may seem a little extreme by the world's standards, but God is just:

Isaiah 45:21 KJV: 21 Tell ye, and bring [them] near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? [who] hath told it from that time? [have] not I the LORD? and [there is] no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; [there is] none beside me.

The New Testament confirms this. Before Adam's sin, there was no death in the world:

Romans 5:12 KJV: 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

No death clearly includes no death by poisonous plants. Plants confirm the Bible, which confirms itself. Praise!


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Default Re: How plants confirm the Genesis account of the fall - 11-15-2017, 08:05 PM

Praise indeed!

It never ceases to amaze me how obvious the Truth is for those who have eyes to see. The problem with atheists is that they are a bitter, spiteful, mentally deficient, morally deficient, and angry people who attempt to use science to refute God. But they can't even get that right! They believe billions of years ago a big bang produced a large rock. As the rock cooled, some goo that miraculously flopped down on it from God Knows Where decided to become animals, and some goo decided to become plants. The animals learned how to swim and then climb rocks and then make movie projectors. Meanwhile, plants decided to become poisonous.


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Default Re: How plants confirm the Genesis account of the fall - 11-15-2017, 10:11 PM

. . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Maybe it's a weakness in me but I keep thinking I can grow hazelnuts they're so
delicious boiled with parsnips or roasted into a hazel and parsnip loaf with some
olive oil and a little pepper.

GENESIS 3 .KJV . look up
17e
[God speaking] cursed is the ground for thy sake
17f in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
18a thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee;




They told me I'd need at least three varieties to cross-pollinate and I keep planting
more varieties but all I get is brambles.

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Default Re: How plants confirm the Genesis account of the fall - 11-15-2017, 10:17 PM

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Praise indeed!

It never ceases to amaze me how obvious the Truth is for those who have eyes to see. The problem with atheists is that they are a bitter, spiteful, mentally deficient, morally deficient, and angry people who attempt to use science to refute God. But they can't even get that right! They believe billions of years ago a big bang produced a large rock. As the rock cooled, some goo that miraculously flopped down on it from God Knows Where decided to become animals, and some goo decided to become plants. The animals learned how to swim and then climb rocks and then make movie projectors. Meanwhile, plants decided to become poisonous.
Sorry, I was studing some english verbs this evening and this just makes me think of:
Goo, went and goone.


Silly. I offer apologies.

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Default Re: How plants confirm the Genesis account of the fall - 11-15-2017, 10:30 PM

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No death clearly includes no death by poisonous plants. Plants confirm the Bible, which confirms itself. Praise!
A superb and edifying tour-de-force. Thank you Pastor.

And here we have the proof of the ineffectiveness of poison in general:

M'r:16:16: He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
M'r:16:17: And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
M'r:16:18: They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
M'r:16:19: So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

They were Jesus's final words on Earth, people! How could they be wrong?




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A superb and edifying tour-de-force. Thank you Pastor.

And here we have the proof of the ineffectiveness of poison in general:

M'r:16:16: He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
M'r:16:17: And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
M'r:16:18: They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
M'r:16:19: So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

They were Jesus's final words on Earth, people! How could they be wrong?
Indeed!

The ordeal through poisonous water has been a God Approved method of testing one's innocence since Moses' times. Any negative effects of a "poison" are simply a "guilty" verdict from God.

Numbers 5:19-28 (preceding verses introduce the subject of a husband suspecting that his wife has cheated on him):
19 And the priest shall charge her by an oath, and say unto the woman, If no man have lain with thee, and if thou hast not gone aside to uncleanness with another instead of thy husband, be thou free from this bitter water that causeth the curse:
20 But if thou hast gone aside to another instead of thy husband, and if thou be defiled, and some man have lain with thee beside thine husband:
21 Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The Lord make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the Lord doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell;
22 And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen.
23 And the priest shall write these curses in a book, and he shall blot them out with the bitter water:
24 And he shall cause the woman to drink the bitter water that causeth the curse: and the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter.
25 Then the priest shall take the jealousy offering out of the woman's hand, and shall wave the offering before the Lord, and offer it upon the altar:
26 And the priest shall take an handful of the offering, even the memorial thereof, and burn it upon the altar, and afterward shall cause the woman to drink the water.
27 And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people.
28 And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.
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Default Re: How plants confirm the Genesis account of the fall - 11-16-2017, 01:57 AM

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Sorry, I was studing some english verbs this evening and this just makes me think of:
Goo, went and goone.
You are using the French spelling, I believe, for goon, a type of Australian wine sold in cardboard boxes which are immediately torn off (for use as BBQ lighters) leaving the silver goon bag. Priced from approx. 50˘ per pint this product is best avoided at all times. More expensive varieties are made but no-one in their right mind would ever go for anything but the cheapest, presumably reasoning that if they wanted to pay more they'd get something in a bottle.
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