[Bro Izzy]

Don't forget the Catholic's never condemned Hitler
Here are some Catholic Bishops giving the Nazi salute in honor of Hitler


The Concordat between the Vatican and the Nazis

Cardinal Secretary of State, Eugenio Pacelli (later to become Pope Pius XII) signed the Concordat between Nazi Germany and the Vatican at a formal ceremony in Rome on 20 July 1933.

The Concordat effectively legitimized Hitler and the Nazi government to the eyes of Catholicism.

[Brother McGregor]

Brother Izzy as I live and breath!!
Welcome welcome

[sinner]

Sorry, brothers and sisters, I know I'm coming in kind of late into the conversation but I wanted to point out that not mentioned in the original post was Sin #12: the wearing of skirts by men of the cloth. As we true Christians know, skirts are reserved only for our women to wear to church, when cooking, cleaning, mending our socks, mowing the lawn, milking the cows, washing our feet, etc. etc. - Oh, and also by those faggot Scotts...

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"Lotus 6-6-6 - Spreadsheet of the Beast"

[Priestess Avalon]

u forgot that priests all over the world are accuse of sexual intercourse with kids, and this in every religions or most!

[Sister Carol J. Paul]

you are right, but it doesn't matter which false religion abuses kids or likes Hitler, the only fact is, that all these false religions, catlicks, wiccans, muslims or whatever do this, exept us true believers. but the catholics are still the worst. They are not allowed to have a wife. Therefore they rape children.

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by Priestess Avalon

u forgot that priests all over the world are accuse of sexual intercourse with kids, and this in every religions or most!

Yes, this is one of the reasons why we don't have priests.

Originally Posted by Sister Carol J. Paul

you are right, but it doesn't matter which false religion abuses kids or likes Hitler, the only fact is, that all these false religions, catlicks, wiccans, muslims or whatever do this, exept us true believers. but the catholics are still the worst. They are not allowed to have a wife. Therefore they rape children.

Good point. The Pope forbids his worshippers to get married because Catholics hate family values.

[bartholomew]

Some of the comments on these threads are kind of out of left field. A majority of the misconceptions of the Catholic Church are due to lack of knowledge. A lot of Catholic tradtion comes for Jewish tradition, which yes, Jesus was Jewish and grew up with the same traditions. He is the new convenant. The first Christians kept these traditions along with new ones; like communion, the breaking of the bread just as Christ had said to do. Saints are not worshiped, they are honored. When we ask for a Saint to pray for us to the Lord, it is the same as when you ask a family member or friend to pray for you, and one thing just about all denominations of Christianity hold in common is the communion of saints (read into it). I could go on and on about misconceptions. My point here is not to convert anyone, but just ask for tolerance. I study scripture and pray with friends of other denominations (protestant and born again). Luke 9:49, Jesus says it all right there. Please just be a little more tolerant and if you actually disagree with a teaching read into it and not just read blogger's information, its often copy and pasted from another half-true source.

[ForGodsSake]

Originally Posted by bartholomew

Some of the comments on these threads are kind of out of left field. A majority of the misconceptions of the Catholic Church are due to lack of knowledge.

Lack of knowledge of what. That the catlics have killed more people in history, That more and more priests are going to jail for committing unthinkable acts against their supposedly protected flock. That the church itself had been implicated in more dealings with heathen scum of the world. And instead of their religious scummy values they just jump on with the next power to be so as to benefit in a financial way. Their nothing but heathen killing pigs. Their the ones shining the outside of the cup, their the ones as described as being guilty for the spilt blood of Gods prophets....I can go on >>>>>

[Born Again Bob]

Dear Friend,

Originally Posted by bartholomew

Luke 9:49, Jesus says it all right there.

Jesus doesn't speak in Luke 9:49.

See if you can get a refund on that Catholic education, friend.

Yours in Him,
bab

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Originally Posted by Bro Izzy

Here are some Catholic Bishops giving the Nazi salute in honor of Hitler

When the Spirit moves us, we True Christians™ raise our hands to the Lord, and it looks a lot like this. In this photo, however, seeing as they're Catholics, you're probably right, it was the Nazi salute and not a manifestation of a desire to be close to God.

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Originally Posted by bartholomew

A majority of the misconceptions of the Catholic Church are due to lack of knowledge.

That's true. The Catholic priests try to keep their flock from reading the Bible, which leads to numerous misconceptions.

The first Christians kept these traditions along with new ones; like communion, the breaking of the bread just as Christ had said to do.

Christ did not teach that the bread was literally his flesh, or that only bread blessed by a priest was worthy of Christian fellowship.

Saints are not worshiped, they are honored. When we ask for a Saint to pray for us to the Lord, it is the same as when you ask a family member or friend to pray for you, and one thing just about all denominations of Christianity hold in common is the communion of saints (read into it).

Hail Mary, full of grace, blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Repeat 50 times. Yeah, that sounds like the way I ask my family to pray for me. Not.

My point here is not to convert anyone, but just ask for tolerance. I study scripture and pray with friends of other denominations (protestant and born again).

The Catholic church condemns things it considers to be sinful all the time. If a Catholic woman marries a Jewish man with the understanding the children will be raised Jewish, the church will not marry them. Such intolerance! Please drop the hypocrasy; we at Landover are simply condemning those things that we believe are sinful, just like you do. Only difference is that we are right.

Luke 9:49, Jesus says it all right there. Please just be a little more tolerant and if you actually disagree with a teaching read into it and not just read blogger's information, its often copy and pasted from another half-true source.

Luke 9:49 doesn't quote Jesus (I forgive you, however, since I know your church tries to keep you from studying the Bible), so I think you meant Luke 9:50. Here are the two verses together:

And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us. And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.

Jesus simply said that there are Christians who were not among Jesus's disciples. That's it. It doesn't say that everyone who claims to be a Christian is one, just that some people are. It certainly doesn't say that Catholics are Christians. Muslims believe in Christ too, but a quick glance through the Catholic Encyclopedia article on Mohammedans doesn't paint a picture of fellow Christians on the path to salvation. As it shouldn't.

Unfortunately, you Catholics are against us, not for us. There is hope for you, but you need to ask Jesus for help--no saints, no popes, no intermediaries, go straight to the top guy. I guarantee that He will listen without his mother nagging him to help you. Or are you too afraid to deal with God directly?

[Perry1]

I found this sight very interesting. Its understanding of Catholic faith is off base; however, it is a very good attempt at defining Baptist beliefs. I have been a Baptist for over 35 years.

To truly attack the Catholics one needs to better understand their belief. Most of the posts here concerning Catholicism is incorrect. The Catholic’s fully support the Bible and its reading. A well educated Catholic will know the Bible as well as any Protestant or Baptist. To refute them one needs to not underestimate their knowledge.

I will give you a list of Catholic responses that a Baptist needs to be prepared for.

If the Bible is the sole rule of faith “Sola Scriptura” then what happened to the millions of people that lived prior to scripture being able to be printed and read. Prior to the 1500s very few people had a Bible as only monks copied them and it took them a full year to manually copy just one. Even fewer people could read prior to the 1500s. What happened to these individuals? Did God leave them abandoned? How did they find God without the one source of faith?

One has to be able to define how one knows scripture to be inspired. One cannot just say it is inspired. That response is inadequate. One can not state that the Bible states that it is inspired as that would be circular reasoning. Plus many books do not tell us they are inspired. As they were written separately each would need to state their own inspiration.

Using 2 Timothy 3:16. as proof for Sola Scriptura has problems. First, it does not speak of the New Testament at all. The two verses preceding 2 Timothy 3:16 say: But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings which are able to instruct you for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. This passage does not refer to the New Testament. In fact, none of the New Testament books had been written when Timothy was a child. Claiming this verse as authentication for a book that had not been written yet goes far beyond what the text claims.

One also has to be careful of verses like 2 Thess 2:15. “So, then, brethren stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter.” , Or "I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you" (1 Cor. 11:2). Catholics will claim that this clearly demonstrates their use of oral tradition is not only acceptable but supported by the Bible. That Sola Scriptura can not be true as the Bible clearly states it is not. Plus as we all know Christ does not even state that his words should be written until the book of Revelations. If the Bible was to be the sole rule of Faith how do we defend that Christ never stated to write down his teachings until the Book of Revelation? Also how do we defend against the fact that the Jewish people were taught orally at that time. The Jewish people only had sporadics book of the Bible in towns and villages. Much of the Bible was orally taught from generation to generation. This is how Christ learned much of the Bible. How do we refute this? How do refute this as both secular and non-secular writings clearly show this to be true? Much of this writing was from the 1st century. How do we refute the Catholics belief in using oral tradition handed down from the Apostles?

Whether we like it or not the Catholics defined the first Bibles. The Jewish people did not attempt to define the Old Testament until after Jesus's death and they lost the right to define old testament writings. The Catholics are the ones that refuted the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Mary, Paul's Letter to the Laodiceans in the fourth century. They also defined the Bible to be 73 books until Luther refuted books from the Old Testament. He largely based this upon a Jewish Council of Javneh that had lost its authority with God as they had already condemned Christ. This also can not be accepted as in Jesus time the Pharisees and Sadducees did not accept the same old Testament writings. The Sadducess only accepting five books of the Bible.

One has to be prepared to refute that the early Christians accepted the deuterocanonicals because they were in the Septuagint (Greek translation of the Old Testament), and that‘s what the apostles used. There are again many secular and non-secular writings at a very early date that shows this as a very plausible point, some as early as the 100s, less than a generation after Christ’s death.

We also can not refute the deutercanicals books based upon them not being quoted in the New Testament because other Old Testament books that we hold as inspired are not quoted. For example Song of Songs, Ecclesiastes, Esther, Judges, 1 Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah, and Nahum to mention a few.

It is also difficult to refute that a disgruntled monk changed the Bible without being inspired. For example he added words to scripture (“only” in Romans 3:20; Romans 4:15, “alone” in Romans 3:28) to support his new doctrine on justification. For us to validate these changes one has to be able to defend that Luther a Lutheran was inspired. Or we will have to negate these words from our translation of the Bible.

What’s more, the fact that Luther accepted the 27 books in his New Testament is a tacit admission that he accepted the authority of the Catholic Church on at least this one issue. After all, it was the Catholic Church that gathered together the books of the New Testament, grasped the Septuagint, and declared them to be the sum of Scripture. Did the Church have such authority? If not, why not add or subtract books from the New Testament as has been done with the Old? For example the gospels listed above.

To be able to adequately defend our Baptist faith one can not attack the Catholics without knowing scripture very well. As it is the only man made institution that has lasted 2,000 years, do not underestimate their knowledge of the Bible and knowledge of history. There are over one billion Catholics in the world. Not all will fall for simple refutations such as I know your priest do not let you read the Bible. Many of them know the Bible very well. Please read and understand the Faith!

[Don the Baptist]

Originally Posted by Perry1

I found this sight very interesting. Its understanding of Catholic faith is off base; however, it is a very good attempt at defining Baptist beliefs. I have been a Baptist for over 35 years.

To truly attack the Catholics one needs to better understand their belief. Most of the posts here concerning Catholicism is incorrect. The Catholic’s fully support the Bible and its reading. A well educated Catholic will know the Bible as well as any Protestant or Baptist. To refute them one needs to not underestimate their knowledge.

I will give you a list of Catholic responses that a Baptist needs to be prepared for.

If the Bible is the sole rule of faith “Sola Scriptura” then what happened to the millions of people that lived prior to scripture being able to be printed and read. Prior to the 1500s very few people had a Bible as only monks copied them and it took them a full year to manually copy just one. Even fewer people could read prior to the 1500s. What happened to these individuals? Did God leave them abandoned? How did they find God without the one source of faith?

One has to be able to define how one knows scripture to be inspired. One cannot just say it is inspired. That response is inadequate. One can not state that the Bible states that it is inspired as that would be circular reasoning. Plus many books do not tell us they are inspired. As they were written separately each would need to state their own inspiration.

Using 2 Timothy 3:16. as proof for Sola Scriptura has problems. First, it does not speak of the New Testament at all. The two verses preceding 2 Timothy 3:16 say: But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings which are able to instruct you for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. This passage does not refer to the New Testament. In fact, none of the New Testament books had been written when Timothy was a child. Claiming this verse as authentication for a book that had not been written yet goes far beyond what the text claims.

One also has to be careful of verses like 2 Thess 2:15. “So, then, brethren stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter.” , Or "I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you" (1 Cor. 11:2). Catholics will claim that this clearly demonstrates their use of oral tradition is not only acceptable but supported by the Bible. That Sola Scriptura can not be true as the Bible clearly states it is not. Plus as we all know Christ does not even state that his words should be written until the book of Revelations. If the Bible was to be the sole rule of Faith how do we defend that Christ never stated to write down his teachings until the Book of Revelation? Also how do we defend against the fact that the Jewish people were taught orally at that time. The Jewish people only had sporadics book of the Bible in towns and villages. Much of the Bible was orally taught from generation to generation. This is how Christ learned much of the Bible. How do we refute this? How do refute this as both secular and non-secular writings clearly show this to be true? Much of this writing was from the 1st century. How do we refute the Catholics belief in using oral tradition handed down from the Apostles?

Whether we like it or not the Catholics defined the first Bibles. The Jewish people did not attempt to define the Old Testament until after Jesus's death and they lost the right to define old testament writings. The Catholics are the ones that refuted the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Mary, Paul's Letter to the Laodiceans in the fourth century. They also defined the Bible to be 73 books until Luther refuted books from the Old Testament. He largely based this upon a Jewish Council of Javneh that had lost its authority with God as they had already condemned Christ. This also can not be accepted as in Jesus time the Pharisees and Sadducees did not accept the same old Testament writings. The Sadducess only accepting five books of the Bible.

One has to be prepared to refute that the early Christians accepted the deuterocanonicals because they were in the Septuagint (Greek translation of the Old Testament), and that‘s what the apostles used. There are again many secular and non-secular writings at a very early date that shows this as a very plausible point, some as early as the 100s, less than a generation after Christ’s death.

We also can not refute the deutercanicals books based upon them not being quoted in the New Testament because other Old Testament books that we hold as inspired are not quoted. For example Song of Songs, Ecclesiastes, Esther, Judges, 1 Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah, and Nahum to mention a few.

It is also difficult to refute that a disgruntled monk changed the Bible without being inspired. For example he added words to scripture (“only” in Romans 3:20; Romans 4:15, “alone” in Romans 3:28) to support his new doctrine on justification. For us to validate these changes one has to be able to defend that Luther a Lutheran was inspired. Or we will have to negate these words from our translation of the Bible.

What’s more, the fact that Luther accepted the 27 books in his New Testament is a tacit admission that he accepted the authority of the Catholic Church on at least this one issue. After all, it was the Catholic Church that gathered together the books of the New Testament, grasped the Septuagint, and declared them to be the sum of Scripture. Did the Church have such authority? If not, why not add or subtract books from the New Testament as has been done with the Old? For example the gospels listed above.

To be able to adequately defend our Baptist faith one can not attack the Catholics without knowing scripture very well. As it is the only man made institution that has lasted 2,000 years, do not underestimate their knowledge of the Bible and knowledge of history. There are over one billion Catholics in the world. Not all will fall for simple refutations such as I know your priest do not let you read the Bible. Many of them know the Bible very well. Please read and understand the Faith!

BLASPHEMER! If you were really a Baptist™, you would KNOW that catlickers are all heretics, queers and child molesters. That fish on the head thing was enough to prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[Compassionant heart]

I know that no matter what I say I will not convince you that Catholicism is a religion that is no where near what you claim it to be, because your hearts and minds are not willing to see anything but your opinion. But I ask you this: LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR! Did you not get this from the Bible, because if you didn't, you must have skipped quite a bit of it. Is their another part of this religion besides just pointing fingers a everyone else. Jesus did not come on Earth to judge others- he dined with sinners, tax collectors, etc. If you truly want to follow Jesus, be compassionant towards others. Jesus died on the cross so that our sins would be forgiven. Jesus did not go the pagans or the prostitutes and say "sorry your going to hell and call them a bunch of names" if he does please share...

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by Compassionant heart

I know that no matter what I say I will not convince you that Catholicism is a religion that is no where near what you claim it to be, because your hearts and minds are not willing to see anything but your opinion. But I ask you this: LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR! Did you not get this from the Bible, because if you didn't, you must have skipped quite a bit of it.

Yes, we know all about loving our neighbors. Idolators are not our neighbors.

Is their another part of this religion besides just pointing fingers a everyone else. Jesus did not come on Earth to judge others- he dined with sinners, tax collectors, etc.

2 Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom.

If you truly want to follow Jesus, be compassionant towards others.

Does that involve scurrying around on the floor and getting trodden on? No thanks.

Jesus died on the cross so that our sins would be forgiven. Jesus did not go the pagans or the prostitutes and say "sorry your going to hell and call them a bunch of names" if he does please share...

Jesus said (Matthew 23):
23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?


Real polite, eh?

[Larry Lee]

Originally Posted by Compassionant heart

I know that no matter what I say I will not convince you that Catholicism is a religion that is no where near what you claim it to be, because your hearts and minds are not willing to see anything but your opinion. But I ask you this: LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR! Did you not get this from the Bible, because if you didn't, you must have skipped quite a bit of it. Is their another part of this religion besides just pointing fingers a everyone else. Jesus did not come on Earth to judge others- he dined with sinners, tax collectors, etc. If you truly want to follow Jesus, be compassionant towards others. Jesus died on the cross so that our sins would be forgiven. Jesus did not go the pagans or the prostitutes and say "sorry your going to hell and call them a bunch of names" if he does please share...

Dear friend, you arrive here at our Holy Board, and in your very first post, you accuse us of being judgmental towards Catlickers, in general, and possessors of a heart hardened towards you personally. Do we ask you for an apology, after receiving such slander? We do not. We simply turn the other check and rebuke you in the precious name of Jesus Christ (who alone sits at the Father's right hand), pointing out to you that your propensity to judge others will, likely, land you in the pit of flames. So, you can see how much we care for you in the Lord. I hope you will post some more.

[OmNefoolish_05]

Originally Posted by Jeb Thurmond

This Cocaine-wine ad, for the same brand the Pope drank and endorsed, graphically shows the effects it has on innocent young people:



High on communion wine, legs spread and about to bend down over the altar. Disgusting.

Did you know that the original recipe for Coca Cola contained cocaine in it? So does that mean that cola should be hated and be considered evil?

[OmNefoolish_05]

Originally Posted by Larry Lee

Dear friend, you arrive here at our Holy Board, and in your very first post, you accuse us of being judgmental towards Catlickers, in general, and possessors of a heart hardened towards you personally.

Hmm, seems you are being pretty judgmental right in your first sentence towards "Catlickers". The religion is Catholic, which I am proud to be one.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by OmNefarious_05

Hmm, seems you are being pretty judgmental right in your first sentence towards "Catlickers". The religion is Catholic, which I am proud to be one.

Then you actually do worship satan.

Have you ever actually examined the papist cult's beliefs? How can you defend that?

CATHOLIC TRADITION - Call priests father, e.g., Father McKinley.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -

Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Forbidding the priesthood to marry.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -

1) It is devilish to forbid God's people to marry when He has given marriage to be received with thanksgiving.
1 Timothy
4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

2) Peter was married (remember the pope is supposedly continuing the apostolic line through Peter).

Matthew
8:14 And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever.

Mark
1:30 But Simon's wife's mother lay sick of a fever, and anon they tell him of her.

Luke
4:38 And he arose out of the synagogue, and entered into Simon's house. And Simon's wife's mother was taken with a great fever; and they besought him for her.

3) Paul, a great apostle, remained single; however he made it very clear that he could marry if he wanted to.

1 Corinthians
9:5 Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary never had other children after the Lord Jesus. A perpetual virgin.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Mary and Joseph indeed had children. They were the Lord's half brothers and sisters for their father was Joseph and mother was Mary.

Matthew
13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
13:56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?
Mark
6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary is the queen of heaven.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Worshipping the queen of heaven (which is not the Mary of the Bible) is worshipping another god and it provokes the Lord to anger.

Jeremiah
7:17 Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem?
7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.
7:19 Do they provoke me to anger? saith the LORD: do they not provoke themselves to the confusion of their own faces?

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary is the mother of God.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Mary is the mother of the earthly Jesus, not God. Jesus pre- existed from everlasting as God (see John 1:1). When He came to redeem mankind, He laid aside His glory and was made like unto sinful man so that He could take our punishment (Hebrew 2:9). God has no mother. He has lived from everlasting which means He had no beginning.

Isaiah
43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. [If Mary gave birth to God, she'd be God.]
Psalm
93:2 Thy throne is established of old: thou art from everlasting.

Micah
5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler [Jesus] in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

Philippians
2:6 Who [Jesus], being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Pope called Holy Father.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - The term Holy Father is only found one time in the entire Bible. It was when Jesus prayed before He and His disciples went to the garden of Gethsemane. He referred to God the Father as Holy Father. It is blasphemy to call a man by God's name

John
17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Purgatory, nuns, popes.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - None of these is mentioned in the Bible. It is a sin to add to the Bible.

Proverbs
30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
The pope is a man who takes upon himself honor which belongs to no human being. Even the very name by which he allows himself to be called (Holy Father) is highly presumptuous and blasphemous (see above).

One does not need the pope to determine what God's will is. The Bible says that God has given the Holy Ghost to each believer and that He (the Holy Ghost) guides and leads us into all truth. All a believer needs is the Bible and the Holy Ghost to know the will of the Lord. Popery has been treacherous, but worse, each pope has been the blind leading the blind. Jesus said that both will fall into the ditch. Catholics, come out of this system that cannot save and know Jesus for youself, intimate and up-close.

NOTE: Purgatory is supposedly a place where a person is purified of sins--even popes supposedly go there. The Bible says that Jesus Christ is the one that purifies us of our sins. Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus.... When a person dies their eternal home is sealed--heaven or hell--no in between. Hebrews 9:27 ...it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Venerating/worshipping images. Pope bows to statues of Mary, people worship the eucharist and have statues/candles in their homes and churches.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - It is idolatry to venerate images. We are not even supposed to make them.

Exodus
20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God...
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CATHOLIC TRADITION - The mass. Through transubstantiation, the wafer/host and the wine supposedly become the actual blood and body of Jesus Christ when the priest prays over them.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Jesus died once for sins, never to be repeated. He sits on the right hand of God and does not reappear in the mass as a mass of blood and flesh.

Hebrews
10:12 But this man [Jesus], after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
10:13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
10:15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
John
19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

1 Corinthians
11:24 And when he [Jesus] had given thanks, he brake it [bread], and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come (not for the forgiveness of sins or to receive Jesus).

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Saved, in part, by good works.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Good works are the fruits that grow out of being saved. They do not make you saved. An apple does not make its tree an apple tree, it was already an apple tree before any apples appeared. When you see the apples; however, you know what kind of tree it is. If a person is saved, he will shew forth good works because he has the spirit of Christ in him. The good works don't make him saved only the blood of Jesus can do that.

I John
1:7b ...the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
Acts 16:31b
...believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.

Romans
3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

What about James 2:20 "faith without works is dead"?

The kind of faith that saves is a faith that shows forth the works of God. Even devils believe in Jesus and tremble (James 2:19). Many people believe in Jesus but they won't follow Him. They have a faith, but not the kind that saves. If a person has true faith in Jesus, the Holy Ghost dwells in him and will cause good works will show forth in his life. The good works confirm the faith by which the person was saved. James 2:21-23 uses Abraham as an example. Abraham believed God so when God asked him to sacrifice his son Isaac, Abraham, out of his faith in God, offered up Isaac.


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CATHOLIC TRADITION - The church is founded on Peter.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Jesus Christ is the foundation of the church. Peter was a man like you and me. Jesus called Peter Satan in Matthew 16:23 when Peter rebuked Jesus dying. When Cornelius tried to worship Peter, Peter responded, "Stand up; I myself also am a man." (Acts 10:26). The pope needs to remember Acts 10:26 when he has men bowing to him and kissing his hand like he is worthy of worship.

1 Corinthians
3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
Matthew
21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected [Jesus], the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

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CATHOLIC TRADITION - Confessing sins to a priest. Petitioning saints and Mary.

WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - We are to confess our sins and needs to God alone.

I John
1:9 If we confess our sins, he [God] is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Matthew
6:9, 12 After this manner...pray ye: Our Father... forgive us....

1 Timothy
2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus [not Mary, not saints, not priests, not the pope];

I John 2:1, ...And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

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[OmNefoolish_05]

I dont see how me being Catholic makes me a Satan worshiper. If being Catholic means Im a devil worshiper, then why am I still accepted at my friend's Chrisitan church.