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Default Re: IS IT POSSIBLE FOR A MAN TO LOVE ANOTHER MAN? - NO! - 05-10-2012, 06:56 PM

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The act, and thinking of the act, are sinful.

Enjoying hairstyling and flower arranging are fine, as long as you aren't effeminate about it.

You again missed the point. I was taling to Mary Etheldreda and asked: "So, you choose to be straight? Or you just found out at one time, that you are?"

and she misunderstood my issue "And in answer to your question directly, I choose not to have sex a woman and her daughter, nor her son's daughter or her daughter's daughter ..."

That was my point. You can choose your behavior. But you can not choose your inclination. She wrote about temporary behavior. But my question was about inclination.
I'm sure, there was no moment in your life, where you suddenly said: "I want to be straight." You just found out, that you are. But you didn't decide to be.


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Default Re: IS IT POSSIBLE FOR A MAN TO LOVE ANOTHER MAN? - NO! - 05-10-2012, 07:12 PM

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You again missed the point. I was taling to Mary Etheldreda and asked: "So, you choose to be straight? Or you just found out at one time, that you are?"

and she misunderstood my issue "And in answer to your question directly, I choose not to have sex a woman and her daughter, nor her son's daughter or her daughter's daughter ..."

That was my point. You can choose your behavior. But you can not choose your inclination. She wrote about temporary behavior. But my question was about inclination.
I'm sure, there was no moment in your life, where you suddenly said: "I want to be straight." You just found out, that you are. But you didn't decide to be.
You can decide to be inclined to men and you can choose to be inclined to women. It's part of free will.
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Default Re: IS IT POSSIBLE FOR A MAN TO LOVE ANOTHER MAN? - NO! - 05-10-2012, 07:23 PM

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Oh God, where to start?

First, all gaywise sexualism is rape by definition. Buttering the chocolate crumpet is by definition excruciatingly painful and the only way to do it is by force, whether physical of by a very definite power imbalance: rape is about power and it is no accident that gays divide into subs and doms.

That being the case how can it be love when terms such as 'stabber' and 'bleeder' are used to lable who is 'on top' and who underneath. If it is notnrape how come the bleeders have to bite into the pillow to stifle the screams of agony?

That's the reason all queer bondings are temporary and often take place in toilets with no hygiene at all.

I honestly can't beleive you are saying that you can love a rapist: what kind of monster are you? Do you want children to get AIDs and die?

What about pedophilia: have you ever thought of that? You can't beleive that is normal

You people make me so sick!!!

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I won't go into details, but gaysex doesn't hurt if your partner is carefull. And as long as both people are willing, gaysex isn't rape.

I don't know where you got those terms, but usually people say top, bottom or versatile. And wait what... o.o "If it is not rape how come the bleeders have to bite into the pillow to stifle the screams of agony?". I don't know what kind of movies you've seen but it isn't like that at all.

There are enough long lasting gay relationships and marriages. And I would also only go for a lasting relationship with another guy.

Actually, so far I've only fallen in love with straight guys. xD And kids don't suddenly get aids becaue 2 guys make love. >.> And if you're talking about the guys, if they use protecton then they won't get aids.

Pedopillia has nothing to do with 2 guys loving eachother. x.x
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Default Re: IS IT POSSIBLE FOR A MAN TO LOVE ANOTHER MAN? - NO! - 05-10-2012, 07:25 PM

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That was my point. You can choose your behavior. But you can not choose your inclination. She wrote about temporary behavior. But my question was about inclination.
But I didn't misunderstand your question. You're thinking "inclination" and "choice" are not correlated. We're "inclined" to sin because of the sin of Eve lo those many years ago. (Genesis 3:1-6) We "choose" to sin. But we can choose to follow Christ (Colossians 3:17) and therefore be "inclined" to be righteous! (2 Corinthians 5:21) It really is a fabulous deal our LORD made for us! We don't deserve it and yet He is so merciful!

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I'm sure, there was no moment in your life, where you suddenly said: "I want to be straight." You just found out, that you are. But you didn't decide to be.
One doesn't "find out" they are straight any more than they "find out" they are human. You just are, from birth.


Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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I won't go into details, but gaysex doesn't hurt if your partner is carefull. And as long as both people are willing, gaysex isn't rape.

I don't know where you got those terms, but usually people say top, bottom or versatile. And wait what... o.o "If it is not rape how come the bleeders have to bite into the pillow to stifle the screams of agony?". I don't know what kind of movies you've seen but it isn't like that at all.

There are enough long lasting gay relationships and marriages. And I would also only go for a lasting relationship with another guy.

Actually, so far I've only fallen in love with straight guys. xD And kids don't suddenly get aids becaue 2 guys make love. >.> And if you're talking about the guys, if they use protecton then they won't get aids.

Pedopillia has nothing to do with 2 guys loving eachother. x.x
Next time you could start with saying something that's true.
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National laws will one day align with God's laws if our politicians live up to their promises, so, yes, there will have to be a proper legal set up so actual gays who really deserve it are legally executed.



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Even if all that were actually true, God still commands us to kill you.
It's almost too bad. I'm sure he's a nice enough person, if one could get past the "ew" factor, that is.


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It's almost too bad. I'm sure he's a nice enough person, if one could get past the "ew" factor, that is.
God knows best. However pleasant and friendly and free of disease a gay person is, God must have a reason to hate them so. I've never let a lack of adequate explanation stop me from following any of God's other commands (within the law, of course ) so at the very least we have to shun them and be intolerant.



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Too bad you wouldn't mind killing someone who's gay, just because you don't like their lifestyle. Even if the person him/herself is a nice and decent person. D: I wouldn't want anyone dead just because they're different from me. :3

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It's almost too bad. I'm sure he's a nice enough person, if one could get past the "ew" factor, that is.
It's too bad our views on wat's right and wrong are so different.~ You seem like a nice person yourself. ^-^
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Too bad you wouldn't mind killing someone who's gay, just because you don't like their lifestyle. Even if the person him/herself is a nice and decent person. D: I wouldn't want anyone dead just because they're different from me. :3
Brother Redeemed Papist didn't say anything about minding, just about being commanded to.

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It's too bad our views on wat's right and wrong are so different.~ You seem like a nice person yourself. ^-^
Why thank you.



But my views are not my own. They are 100% Biblically accurate. Like Father Abraham, I simply follow what the LORD commands me to do.



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Too bad you wouldn't mind killing someone who's gay, just because you don't like their lifestyle. Even if the person him/herself is a nice and decent person. D: I wouldn't want anyone dead just because they're different from me. :3



It's too bad our views on wat's right and wrong are so different.~ You seem like a nice person yourself. ^-^
How disgusting and bigoted! I would never wish anyone dead. If faced with the appalling prospect of being selected to throw the stones at a gay who would rather die than keep his penis out of another man's anus I would be horrified. The gay person's free will to choose to spit in God's loving face is something I would respect, as would be the law of God made the law of the land.

Why do these atheist queers judge people so harshly for being unashamed of the Lord their God's desires?

To accuse any True Christian™ of not loving and guiding people to Heaven... Truly hateful!



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How disgusting and bigoted! I would never wish anyone dead. If faced with the appalling prospect of being selected to throw the stones at a gay who would rather die than keep his penis out of another man's anus I would be horrified. The gay person's free will to choose to spit in God's loving face is something I would respect, as would be the law of God made the law of the land.

Why do these atheist queers judge people so harshly for being unashamed of the Lord their God's desires?

To accuse any True Christian™ of not loving and guiding people to Heaven... Truly hateful!
I'm not an atheist, I am spiritual. =P

Uhm there was no hate in my comment. I can't hate anyone myself.
To me it seemed like that because I've seen and known enough people who would kill someone with another sexuality out of hate. And the way you said it seems pretty hatefull myself, even if god commands you to do it. (I myself would still not be able to kill ayone een if someone commanded me)

Why does god and these true christians judge me so hard for loving someone. I don't see how anyone or anything could hate love =O
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I'm not an atheist, I am spiritual. =P

Uhm there was no hate in my comment. I can't hate anyone myself.
To me it seemed like that because I've seen and known enough people who would kill someone with another sexuality out of hate. And the way you said it seems pretty hatefull myself, even if god commands you to do it. (I myself would still not be able to kill ayone een if someone commanded me)

Why does god and these true christians judge me so hard for loving someone. I don't see how anyone or anything could hate love =O
Your last two sentences go all the way back to the original premise of the thread, where was Biblically shown that two homos can't actually love each other in a romantic way, but are simply allowing their lust for perversion to overwhelm them. It may seem innocent enough to you, until the queer deathstyle leads you to further perversion like eating poopy, molesting children, and peeing on one another.

Since it appears you are currently a neophyte queer these despicable acts must seem unbelievable, but trust me they are on your horizon. I pray that you decide to be normal before Jesus throws you into some quicksand (for example) and you are burned alive for all eternity.

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But I didn't misunderstand your question. You're thinking "inclination" and "choice" are not correlated. .
They are not. You can choose to eat apples, even if you like melons.


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They are not. You can choose to eat apples, even if you like melons.
Everyone is "inclined" to be heterosexual. That's just how God made us.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Genesis 1:27




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Everyone is "inclined" to be heterosexual. That's just how God made us.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Genesis 1:27


But with 'man' and 'woman' the authors just wanted to say 'humans' in general. I fear, that you did not only misunderstand evolution, but also your own Bible.....
The word 'adam' is Persian and means 'human'. It's not necessarily (not only) a name.
That doesn't mean, that it can not stand for 'man and man' or 'woman and woman'. Both are equivalent.


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uhh...sorry to burst all y'alls bubble...but these two look purty happy and in looove. Don't hate. Just accept. Get off all your GIANT pedestals where you've placed yourselves. You're not better than anyone else.
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But with 'man' and 'woman' the authors just wanted to say 'humans' in general. I fear, that you did not only misunderstand evolution, but also your own Bible.....
The word 'adam' is Persian and means 'human'. It's not necessarily (not only) a name.
That doesn't mean, that it can not stand for 'man and man' or 'woman and woman'. Both are equivalent.
Wait, wait, wait.

So when the Bible says, "man" it doesn't really mean "man"?

When it says

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things
(Isaiah 45:7)


It means God may or may not have formed the light? He may or may not have created darkness? He may or may not make peace and create evil? He may or may not actually have done all these things?

You're suggesting that when the Bible tells us,

That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life
(John 3:15)


It means a believer may or may not have eternal life? As in, salvation for eternity may not actually exist but may be a euphemism for, I dunno, anything from living a meaningful life to being a virtuous person?

Goodness, with this kind of logic, how can you trust anything you read in the Bible? You might as well scrap the whole thing and simply follow a humanist moral code. You'd be more popular for now, you may even feel like you're more rational and logical, but you'd be giving up your eternal salvation and embrace eternal torment at the hands of Satan and his minions.


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Wait, wait, wait.

So when the Bible says, "man" it doesn't really mean "man"?

Here's a video of someone, who finally found his place.



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