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Evolution Shmevolution -
04-11-2009, 01:06 PM
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Evolution Shmevolution -
04-11-2009, 01:33 PM
Another incisive performance by Mr Current - the way he takes advantage of his God-Given talents is an inspiration to us all.
A point he did not touch upon but which I have always thought persuasive is that if evilution were real, wouldn't we expect to see no two animals the same - everyone would be different!
Just look a a penguin colony! They are all identical - where is the penguin that looks a bit like an eagle or the other one that looks a bit more like an eagle?
And the Chinks - basically, they are all the same.
Praise Mr Current for enlightening me and making me think more deeply! Another thing crosses my mind - if man has been around 400,000 years (what lunatic thought of that?) then not everyone would have bred at the same rate. Assuming 1 generation equals 20 years but some breed at 16 and some at 40, the former would have had 25,000 generations and the latter only 10,000 - in the difference of 15,000 generations wouldn't we expect to see knuckle-draggers and men from the future all mixed up on earth today? Yet we don't!
As Mr Current says, Checkmate Darwinistas!
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Re: Evolution Shmevolution -
05-11-2009, 07:22 AM
First of all, this video is satire, and is not meant to be taken seriously. But since you seem to have missed that, I am going to argue a few points as if it were serious. The reason we need to get a new flu shot every year is because of evolution. Viruses (which cause the flu) evolve. Viruses are all slightly different, so that vaccines are more effective against some than others. If you want me to go into a detailed explanation of how vaccines work, I will. The viruses that the vaccines are effective against are killed, while the resistant ones replicate. Next year, only the replicated resistant ones remain, and a new vaccine needs to be made to be effective against those.
The reason there are no fossilized human tails is because our tails did not just fall off. Genetic mutation along with a lack of selective pressure for tails (meaning tails were not needed) caused the length of our tails to decrease generation by generation until only our vestigial tailbones remained.
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A point he did not touch upon but which I have always thought persuasive is that if evilution were real, wouldn't we expect to see no two animals the same - everyone would be different!
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This argument doesn't even make sense. It's true that no two animals are the same, in every population there is a slight amount of genetic variation, even if we can't see it in something like a penguin colony. Without that variation evolution would not occur. But individual animals do not evolve, populations evolve. That means that a population will be mostly homogeneous in its genetic makeup.
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Another thing crosses my mind - if man has been around 400,000 years (what lunatic thought of that?) then not everyone would have bred at the same rate. Assuming 1 generation equals 20 years but some breed at 16 and some at 40, the former would have had 25,000 generations and the latter only 10,000 - in the difference of 15,000 generations wouldn't we expect to see knuckle-draggers and men from the future all mixed up on earth today? Yet we don't!
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While yes, there probably was variation in breeding rate of our ancestors, it was probably much less than you are suggesting. Our earlier ancestors probably didn't even live to the age of 40, much less reproduce at that age. And that variation would be canceled out by migrations of genes between populations, not to mention a lot of the variation would be within interbreeding populations. The humans that were around 400,000 years ago (the age you cited) were very similar to humans today, not the knuckle-draggers you are picturing. I guess in a way you are right, because there were the Neanderthals, which were more primitive and alive at the same time as modern humans, but they died out because modern humans were more successful at utilizing resources. That's how evolution works, my friend.
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Re: Evolution Shmevolution -
05-11-2009, 08:20 AM
Elizabeth.... God Created Woman to look after Man. To Cook, Clean, go fetch a Beer and produce more Soldiers for Christ.
I hope you have asked your Husband for permission to be using his Computer?
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Re: Evolution Shmevolution -
05-11-2009, 03:50 PM
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But individual animals do not evolve, populations evolve. That means that a population will be mostly homogeneous in its genetic makeup.
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If the population were mostly homos, how could they breed? Check and mate to Jesus, friend!
O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.
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Re: Evolution Shmevolution -
05-11-2009, 08:37 PM
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If the population were mostly homos, how could they breed? Check and mate to Jesus, friend!
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I don't mean to be rude, but you are retarded. Just because two words sound the same doesn't mean they mean the same thing. Homogeneous is not the same thing as homosexual. I'm sorry I used words too big for you to understand. I'd tell you to look it up, but you are obviously too stupid to use a dictionary. Homogeneous means something is uniform or similar throughout.
Also, Talitha, I feel bad for you.
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Re: Evolution Shmevolution -
05-11-2009, 09:42 PM
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I don't mean to be rude, but you are retarded. Just because two words sound the same doesn't mean they mean the same thing. Homogeneous is not the same thing as homosexual. I'm sorry I used words too big for you to understand. I'd tell you to look it up, but you are obviously too stupid to use a dictionary. Homogeneous means something is uniform or similar throughout.
Also, Talitha, I feel bad for you.
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Leviticus 26:27-29
27 And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me;
28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.
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Re: Evolution Shmevolution -
05-14-2009, 12:33 AM
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The reason there are no fossilized human tails is because our tails did not just fall off. Genetic mutation along with a lack of selective pressure for tails (meaning tails were not needed) caused the length of our tails to decrease generation by generation until only our vestigial tailbones remained.
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This is one of the main problems with you "eviloutionists" – you just repeat your stupid theories until you believe them.
According to your "theories", tails do not have any way of informing genes as to whether they are being used or not – therefore they don't know whether to pass on tails or not. We have quite a few organs that we don't use, yet we still have them. Take the appendix for example, we also have two ovaries / testicles where we only need one to reproduce. All these should be gone by now, but we still have them.
Additionally, somehow (random) genetic mutation is supposed to have a way of knowing to go after tails and knows we are not using them. How does "it" know? Come on now, you can't possibly believe this.
Perhaps you would like the Lamarckian biologists better – they more fit your conception of how things work.
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Re: Evolution Shmevolution -
05-14-2009, 04:49 AM
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I don't mean to be rude, but you are retarded.
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What a hateful thing to say! What kind of monster comes into a Christian forum and exhibits bigotry and intolerance toward the handicapped. You monkey worshipers are famous for being racists, but I had no idea that your degeneracy extended to insulting mental midgets as well.
Take your atheist hatespeech somewhere else, girl!
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Also, Talitha, I feel bad for you.
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How condescending is that? Who are you to "pity" a True Christian™ woman? You aren't fit to lick her......sesnsible pumps.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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