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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 04:05 AM
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LOL, you think the North pole is at the center of the Earth? Child, the North Pole is at the top of the Earth, the South at the bottom. The Center of the Earth is closest to the sun, the outer edges of the firmament are furthest away.
You really have no idea what you are talking about. Think next time before you type. For all of eternity, you will be giving all future readers a great giggle.
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Well, if that was the case, all the water would flow off the Earth, which even if it replenished itself, would cause massive current problems that would vastly re-shape the world. Here is a map of currents: http://www.physicalgeography.net/fun...ancurrents.gif
These are constant. If the world was flat, the water would flow off of it.
I am admittedly not overtly familiar with the Flat earth, but your attitude is not positive, accepting, or Christian. If you were trying to actually spread the word, you would kindly correct my mistakes. Instead you mock me. Mockery is unkind and uncalled for. It makes you look uncivil.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 04:09 AM
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Well, if that was the case, all the water would flow off the Earth, which even if it replenished itself, would cause massive current problems that would vastly re-shape the world. Here is a map of currents: http://www.physicalgeography.net/fun...ancurrents.gif
These are constant. If the world was flat, the water would flow off of it.
I am admittedly not overtly familiar with the Flat earth, but your attitude is not positive, accepting, or Christian. If you were trying to actually spread the word, you would kindly correct my mistakes. Instead you mock me. Mockery is unkind and uncalled for. It makes you look uncivil.
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Just to remind you. the shape of the land masses have changed and lands have risen and sunken from the oceans.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 04:11 AM
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You have not found a hole in my logic. You are just grasping at straws. If there was such a demand to venture to the edge of the world then there would be travel packages. Also think about the risks involved, no insurance company could afford the cost of people falling of the edge of the world.
I have never once said satellites do not exist. You are the one saying they cannot because the earth is flat. Just because the earth is not a sphere does not mean they do not exist. Do not twist my words or what I am telling you.
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Pardon me on the Satellites thing, it was a misread.
Also, people travel to places with cliffs all the time. The edge of the earth would be, at least, a place for rich, high-adventurers to go to. People LOVE to face danger, some do anyway. People climb Everest, K2, and Annapurna, peaks that are notorious for killing people. They keep doing it and there are massive expeditions every single year. People love to face that danger. It is inherent in the nature of certain individuals. You would hear about it. I Guarantee you someone would have tried to climb over the edge by now to see if they could get under it. People would go there, no question! People go to dangerous places all the time! FOR FUN! I do it too. IT'S AWESOME. The raw energy of nature is amazing, the vast cold oceans, the tall, lonely peaks of the world... Places like that bring you closer to God.
If the edge was real, people would go there, and there wouldn't just be a couple of ancient stories.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 04:12 AM
First, it has not nor have we had these currents you speak of. Does water flow out of a bowl or dish?
My attitude is 110% positive, I am accepting of the Truth© and I am a True Christian™. You seem to be missing on all three counts. I am sorry, I am known for being blunt out of my love for Jesus. Now if you think my love for God is wrong, say so. God tells it like it is and so do I. I am not a fluffy bunny, let me kiss your boo-boo Christian.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 04:14 AM
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Pardon me on the Satellites thing, it was a misread.
Also, people travel to places with cliffs all the time. The edge of the earth would be, at least, a place for rich, high-adventurers to go to. People LOVE to face danger, some do anyway. People climb Everest, K2, and Annapurna, peaks that are notorious for killing people. They keep doing it and there are massive expeditions every single year. People love to face that danger. It is inherent in the nature of certain individuals. You would hear about it. I Guarantee you someone would have tried to climb over the edge by now to see if they could get under it. People would go there, no question! People go to dangerous places all the time! FOR FUN! I do it too. IT'S AWESOME. The raw energy of nature is amazing, the vast cold oceans, the tall, lonely peaks of the world... Places like that bring you closer to God.
If the edge was real, people would go there, and there wouldn't just be a couple of ancient stories.
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I agree, the edges of the firmament must be a sight to behold. Every man that has gone there has never returned. Just like those that wanted to get a peak at Heaven or Hell. There is a time and a place for everything.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 04:17 AM
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Just to remind you. the shape of the land masses have changed and lands have risen and sunken from the oceans.
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Plate tectonics.
Also, the way the continents have morphed is not consistent with water flowing off the planet, plan and simple.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 04:22 AM
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Plate tectonics.
Also, the way the continents have morphed is not consistent with water flowing off the planet, plan and simple.
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I was just reminding you God has changed land masses and made oceans rise and fall. Why do you always want to deny what God has done. Is it because you want to deny God has flooded lands and killed people.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 04:33 AM
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I was just reminding you God has changed land masses and made oceans rise and fall. Why do you always want to deny what God has done. Is it because you want to deny God has flooded lands and killed people.
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No I do not deny that God has killed people. Scripture states that he has done his fair share of killing, you know, Sodom and Gomorrah, the great flood, etc. God flooded the world once, and claimed he would never do so again.
Do not mistake Plate Tectonics for something that is not of God's Doing either. It is possible that they are indeed part of his plan.
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10-30-2010, 04:38 AM
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I agree, the edges of the firmament must be a sight to behold. Every man that has gone there has never returned. Just like those that wanted to get a peak at Heaven or Hell. There is a time and a place for everything.
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Well, the REAL reason no one goes to the edge is because there isn't one. If there was an edge, people would still try to get there. It would be in every textbook. Science would readily accept it if it was true. Just so you know, the common consensus of pretty much the entire even somewhat educated population (not calling you uneducated, just not part of the majority here) of this planet is that the world is round, because it's been proven, over and over again. All the navigational tools we use are based on the Globe idea, plus, people have seen the Globe from space, and even the edge of space. There is video, photos, and personal experience from countless individuals.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 04:46 AM
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No I do not deny that God has killed people. Scripture states that he has done his fair share of killing, you know, Sodom and Gomorrah, the great flood, etc. God flooded the world once, and claimed he would never do so again.
Do not mistake Plate Tectonics for something that is not of God's Doing either. It is possible that they are indeed part of his plan.
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Plate Tectonics is just a way of describing God's handy work. Do not go down the path of thinking they are mutually exclusive.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 04:48 AM
Anyway, the world is a globe. It's probably one of the most rock solid truths of reality out there. The bible can't prove it wrong just with words. It is something you can see in real life if you have the means.
Past that though...
I'm just gunna stop here. I know your argument. I know mine. We're at an impasse.
Science has proved that the world is a globe
Human Experience has done that doubly so
No one sails off the edge anymore because there is no edge to sail off of. Ask any Mariner.
No one Flies off the edge, and never has. Ask any Pilot
People have seen the earth from orbit
People have seen the earth from the moon
The bible cannot be taken word for word, and clearly it isn't. (I see people who shave here. I bet others consume non-fish sea-life. Sins listed in Leviticus)
You do need to think critically, and for yourself.
I personally do not believe that the bible is the direct word of god, mostly because a lot of it was written far after the events depicted transpired (if they ever transpired). I believe it has been tainted by man, as unfortunate as that is.
You may call me Unsaved. I'm fine with that as long as you are fine with me living my life out of love for all.
I really do wish you all the best in your lives. I would urge you to keep thinking, keep learning, and look to all the sources before making a conclusion on any point.
Most importantly, love before hate. Love the sinner, hate the sin, as they say.
I am not leaving with my tail between my legs either. I haven't been proven wrong here, not in my book, I just know that we cannot find a conclusion to this today. It's not up to me to change your minds. I can't do that, just like you cannot change mine. Heck, I know an astronaut, I love space-travel stuff, it's super cool. If anything has proved the world is a globe, it's space travel. http://0.tqn.com/d/space/1/7/c/e/earth_moon.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...d_12_earth.gif
http://researchpark.arc.nasa.gov/lec...ages/Earth.jpg
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/earth-1.jpg
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Fea...ving_earth.jpg
http://quarknet.fnal.gov/graphics/earth.jpg
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 04:51 AM
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Well, the REAL reason no one goes to the edge is because there isn't one. If there was an edge, people would still try to get there. It would be in every textbook. Science would readily accept it if it was true. Just so you know, the common consensus of pretty much the entire even somewhat educated population (not calling you uneducated, just not part of the majority here) of this planet is that the world is round, because it's been proven, over and over again. All the navigational tools we use are based on the Globe idea, plus, people have seen the Globe from space, and even the edge of space. There is video, photos, and personal experience from countless individuals.
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The earth is flat. Simple!
No-one has gone into space. You have just been watching too many sci-fi movies. Next you will be saying there are Martians on mars and Pluto is not a real planet, and the moon is made of cheese and there is a old man living there eating the moon.
All navigation is done with flat maps, because the earth is flat. even GPS systems show the earth flat.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.
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10-30-2010, 04:53 AM
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I am not leaving with my tail between my legs either. ...
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You have a tail. Are you a monkey man or something.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.
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Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT -
10-30-2010, 04:54 AM
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Well, the REAL reason no one goes to the edge is because there isn't one. If there was an edge, people would still try to get there. It would be in every textbook. Science would readily accept it if it was true. Just so you know, the common consensus of pretty much the entire even somewhat educated population (not calling you uneducated, just not part of the majority here) of this planet is that the world is round, because it's been proven, over and over again. All the navigational tools we use are based on the Globe idea, plus, people have seen the Globe from space, and even the edge of space. There is video, photos, and personal experience from countless individuals.
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Son, your reading comprehension has shortcomings. This is perhaps why you failed to fully understand the Bible.
Many have gone to the edges. You do not hear their stories because God swooped down and took them away. Most likely to Hell for failing to head his warnings.
We have shown you a multitude of pictures proof, the Earth is as round as a silver dollar and just as flat. Everyone of of your 'theories' have been throughly refuted.
I have still never seen a single picture of the Earth as you call it, 'a globe'. The Bible tells us what happens when you question Him. Those that claim otherwise are doomed four an eternity in Hell of being raped by the Devil. I thought you were a religious person, do you really want to spend eternity being sodomized?
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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10-30-2010, 05:08 AM
Lisa, you're funny. No I am not a monkey man, it's just an expression. Good joke though.
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10-30-2010, 05:13 AM
For serious though, I am done debating with ya'll. Peace.
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10-30-2010, 06:10 AM
People, do not let deceivers like "TheRev" try and convince you otherwise. We owe it to our children to learn the FACTS in science classrooms. The Freehold School District is the last and only school district in the entire nation that teaches flat-earth and geocentricism in science classes. If we start listening to these round-earthers, who have the unmitigated gall to declare that our most holy KJV Bibles are somehow chockful of errors, that will be the death of us. We will have school shootings, teenage pregnancy, and rampant drug use.
So, listen to your Bibles and listen to your pastors. We know what is best for everyone.
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10-30-2010, 08:28 AM
Nice speech. Way to be a good person. You know, looks like you shave your face. Looks like you're going to hell with me since it's a sin in your book too. (19:27-28) FOLLOW IT ALL else you're a hypocrite. Sorry, but that is how it works. Clearly I don't follow it all, but I never claimed that everything in the Bible was true either.
Just saying, you're an embodiment of hypocrisy, even if you follow all the rules but one. Isn't it a rule that one sin is no lesser or greater than another? It's a sin to trim/shave facial hair. You have sinned. That's the literal interpretation. Deal with it. Prove to the world that you're not just taking what benefits you can from this book while you're still alive. I bet you're very popular with your church. Must feel wonderful to be so popular.
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10-30-2010, 08:34 AM
*edit* Leviticus 19:27-28
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10-30-2010, 08:43 AM
We are well aware of that verse, thank you. (although it's only 27...)
Now where does it say that you can not shave?
Do you have a reading problem?
Let me give you a hint:
1) "You shall not drive your Ferrari faster than the speed limit."
2) "But I don't have a Ferrari, I don't even have a car."
Does 1) say you have to have a Ferrari?
Psalm 81:10:
I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.
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