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Re: Dinosaurs: Satan's Greatest Trick -
05-26-2014, 11:26 PM
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Where did Jesus say that? Have you actually read the bible yourself even once?
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Re: Dinosaurs: Satan's Greatest Trick -
05-26-2014, 11:31 PM
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Where did Jesus say that? Have you actually read the bible yourself even once?
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05-26-2014, 11:45 PM
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07-19-2015, 01:26 AM
Let us not forget the "fossil" in south australia of a "swimming dinosaur" who's bones were made of opal?
The opal miners dug it up and the athiest daydreamers said it once swam in the ocean!?! But had no gills!
Have they ever seen fish bone? Or shark cartilidges?
They are light! God made fish bones light so they can swim rather than sink!!
Rock skeleton + no gills = drowned lizard!
The cave paintings of "cavemen" do not show dinosaurs, in fact they show animals just like the ones we share Gods green earth with today!
Great tigers and horned deers and hairy elephants too.
Only satan would think to confuse man with rock skeletons of lizard birds and walking fish, giant dragons and ape men.
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Re: Dinosaurs: Satan's Greatest Trick -
07-26-2015, 11:49 PM
Well there is overwhelming prove that dinosaurs are real. BUT...its not that Satan put them here to test our fate by making one question the earths real age...for he did not...MAN and "scientists" are the ACTUAL problem. Its Satans tools that try and trick us. They warp the information, telling us the dinosaurs live millions or yesrs ago. Now we all here no that cant be true for the earth is roughly 6000 years old. They do this to try and make earth older then what it really is...Dinosaurs actually lived with man in the beginning.
Very good topic tho. And whichever theroy you believe we can all agree they are being used as Satans tools.
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Re: Dinosaurs: Satan's Greatest Trick -
07-26-2015, 11:56 PM
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Well there is overwhelming prove that dinosaurs are real. BUT...its not that Satan put them here to test our fate by making one question the earths real age...for he did not...MAN and "scientists" are the ACTUAL problem. Its Satans tools that try and trick us. They warp the information, telling us the dinosaurs live millions or yesrs ago. Now we all here no that cant be true for the earth is roughly 6000 years old. They do this to try and make earth older then what it really is...Dinosaurs actually lived with man in the beginning.
Very good topic tho. And whichever theroy you believe we can all agree they are being used as Satans tools.
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Re: Dinosaurs: Satan's Greatest Trick -
07-27-2015, 12:40 AM
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Well there is overwhelming prove that dinosaurs are real.
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Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Re: Dinosaurs: Satan's Greatest Trick -
07-27-2015, 01:12 AM
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Oh my. Are you calling dear Daisy Mae a liar, or too stupid to understand the world in which she lives?
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Lier or no. Dinosaurs bones are used by Satan. We are all in agreement on that.
And i can not speack for her as i have a hard time trusting woman. They are such crafty and misleading little things. You've have been helpful though so there is still hope.
When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets. Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her. Deuteronomy 25:11-12
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Re: Dinosaurs: Satan's Greatest Trick -
07-27-2015, 01:23 AM
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Lier or no. Dinosaurs bones are used by Satan. We are all in agreement on that.
And i can not speack for her as i have a hard time trusting woman. They are such crafty and misleading little things. You've have been helpful though so there is still hope.
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07-27-2015, 01:35 AM
Noted my friend.
Always good to hear your fresh input
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07-27-2015, 01:47 AM
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Noted my friend.
Always good to hear your fresh input
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Re: Dinosaurs: Satan's Greatest Trick -
07-27-2015, 05:25 AM
Remember this one thing brothers and sisters: KJV Proverbs 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit,
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11-18-2015, 09:21 PM
First, my username was supposed to be missing the second 'M' but apparently this forum auto-corrects the word M-O-R-O-N with "Mormon."
Also, my name is Gabriel. I wanted to address some of the questions that came up as I was reading this thread. At first, I thought this was a joke thread, but apparently it is not, so I have taken 30 minutes out of my day to write this post. I would appreciate it if you would read it.
Let me address some of your questions/comments:
1) The earth is 6,000 years old, therefore dinosaurs cannot have walked the earth. Seriously? The earth is 4.5 billion years old (approximately). 99.999999% of all scientists on the planet believe this to be a fact. There is a mountain of evidence for it. Carbon-14 dating has proved it, uranium-lead dating has proved it, and dozens of other techniques have proved it. The earth is at least 4.374 billion years old and probably older. There is more evidence for this fact than there is for the bible actually being 2000 years old, and there is a lot of evidence of the bible's age.
2) Dinosaur fossils are not made out of rock, nor are they bones. A fossil is an impression left in rock. Scientists use those impressions to make casts of bones and that's how dinosaur skeletons are built. Eight people have given definitions of fossils and not one bothered to actually look up the definition first.
3) Who was it said that no one found any dinosaur bones until Jurassic Park came out??? First of all, the first movie that featured dinosaurs was "Prehistoric Peeps" in 1905. The first dinosaur fossil that was discovered was probably more than 2,000 years ago, but the only evidence is the writings of the time, which called them "dragon" bones. The first fossil that we know of for sure was discovered in 1676 in England. It was a massive femur.
4) This remark is specifically to Dan U. Holier, who has the distinction of being the first person on this forum that made me think it had all been created as a joke. Let me quote from you, Dan.
"Alleged "dinosaur bones" are actually bones of all the sinners that perished in the flood. Since Noah didn't have dinosaurs on his Ark, obviously there weren’t any. Period!" Ignoring the fact that science has proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that there was never a massive flood that covered the earth, and assuming, just for the sake of this comment, that it was a real, historical event, could you please provide me with the bible chapter and verses that list all of the animals that were on the supposed ark? Also, before you use the argument that "they were too big to be on the ark" let me inform you that the smallest dinosaurs were about the size of a chicken, and many of them would easily fit on this imaginary ark.
"The fact that even a woman can distinguish between shameless Holdmywood’s fabrications - like Jurassic Park movies – and reality tells all about Evilutionists." - That's not sexist at all. Let's move on.
5) Reverend Jim Osborne asks: "If dinosaurs were around for millions and millions of years before us (and modern human beings have around for tens of thousands of years), then why were dinosaurs only discovered recently? If their bones were here this whole time, wouldn't people in the Renaissance have found them? Middle ages? Roman empire? Cave men? " I have already answered this. See Question 3.
6) Zechariah Smyth, let me quote from you. "Your next post better be a thread of your own in the Introduction Forum. Tell us where you go to church, how you came to find Jesus, and what your favorite Bible verse is." So, you only allow people who believe exactly like you do on this forum? What is the purpose of having a forum where anyone can register if you delete everyone who you don't agree with. You claim to be enlightened and open-minded, but you won't allow anyone to post anything on this forum, unless they 1) go to church, 2) have found Jesus and 3) have a favorite bible verse. How do you even walk down the street with blinders that big on?
7) "I don't want to seem judgmental, but that one little sentence says a lot about you." If you don't want to seem judgmental then you should avoid making comments like that. It makes you seem beaucoup judgmental.
8) "We follow the Word of God, not some messicant's inclination of burnt burritos and the smell of spicy under-arm odor. " Wow, that's not racist at all either. That's so loving and Christ-like. Also there is no such word as "messicant" and underarm does not require a hyphen.
9) Seriously, is this thread a joke? I had to go check the rest of this forum to make sure this wasn't a joke. I honestly couldn't believe that you people are that uninformed, racist, sexist and hypocritical, and yet believe that you are more informed, more moral, more righteous and smarter than the rest of the world.
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Re: Dinosaurs: Satan's Greatest Trick -
11-18-2015, 09:37 PM
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Re: Dinosaurs: Satan's Greatest Trick -
11-18-2015, 09:48 PM
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First, my username was supposed to be missing the second 'M'
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Re: Dinosaurs: Satan's Greatest Trick -
11-18-2015, 10:26 PM
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1) The earth is 6,000 years old, therefore dinosaurs cannot have walked the earth. Seriously? The earth is 4.5 billion years old (approximately). 99.999999% of all scientists on the planet believe this to be a fact.
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Why should anyone believe in scientists when they keep changing their minds? Today the earth is 4.5 billion years old, tomorrow it's a trillion years old. The things so-called scientists have believed in and reneged over the years is astounding. It would be funny if so many people didn't teach their children and encourage them to be willing dupes of Satan by rejecting the Truth and embracing that which changes at the whim of man's fancy.
A list of examples of scientific beliefs later declared obsolete and embarrasing:
Biology - Spontaneous generation - is a principle regarding the origin of life from inanimate matter, which held that this process was a commonplace and everyday occurrence, as distinguished from univocal generation, or reproduction from parent(s).
- Transmutation of species, Lamarckism, inheritance of acquired characteristics - first theories of evolution.
- Maternal impression – the theory that the mother's thoughts created birth defects.
- Miasma theory of disease – the theory that diseases are caused by "bad air. “
- Recapitulation theory – the theory that "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny".
- Telegony – the theory that an offspring can inherit characteristics from a previous mate of its mother's as well as its actual parents
- Out of Asia theory of human origin
Astronomy and cosmology - Luminiferous aether theory
Geography and climate
Medicine - Theory of the four bodily humors
- Physiognomy
- Phrenology
And entire branches of inquiry now known to be completely obsolete - Alchemy
- Astrology
- Phrenology
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Re: Dinosaurs: Satan's Greatest Trick -
11-18-2015, 10:51 PM
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Why should anyone believe in scientists when they keep changing their minds? Today the earth is 4.5 billion years old, tomorrow it's a trillion years old. The things so-called scientists have believed in and reneged over the years is astounding. It would be funny if so many people didn't teach their children and encourage them to be willing dupes of Satan by rejecting the Truth and embracing that which changes at the whim of man's fancy.
A list of examples of scientific beliefs later declared obsolete and embarrasing:
Biology - Spontaneous generation - is a principle regarding the origin of life from inanimate matter, which held that this process was a commonplace and everyday occurrence, as distinguished from univocal generation, or reproduction from parent(s).
- Transmutation of species, Lamarckism, inheritance of acquired characteristics - first theories of evolution.
- Maternal impression – the theory that the mother's thoughts created birth defects.
- Miasma theory of disease – the theory that diseases are caused by "bad air. “
- Recapitulation theory – the theory that "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny".
- Telegony – the theory that an offspring can inherit characteristics from a previous mate of its mother's as well as its actual parents
- Out of Asia theory of human origin
Astronomy and cosmology - Luminiferous aether theory
Geography and climate
Medicine - Theory of the four bodily humors
- Physiognomy
- Phrenology
And entire branches of inquiry now known to be completely obsolete - Alchemy
- Astrology
- Phrenology
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The discarding of those theories is exactly why you should respect science. Modern science bases current theories on all of the available facts, including any experiments that can be done (over and over) to prove or disprove a fact. Theories are discarded all the time in favor of new information. Science does not claim to have the exact truth, just the best possible theories to fit the facts.
However, to create a theory that doesn't fit any facts and call it truth just because it says it in a 2000 year old book is ridiculous.
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Re: Dinosaurs: Satan's Greatest Trick -
11-18-2015, 11:03 PM
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The discarding of those theories is exactly why you should respect science. Modern science bases current theories on all of the available facts, including any experiments that can be done (over and over) to prove or disprove a fact. Theories are discarded all the time in favor of new information. Science does not claim to have the exact truth, just the best possible theories to fit the facts.
However, to create a theory that doesn't fit any facts and call it truth just because it says it in a 2000 year old book is ridiculous.
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Let me see if I understand you correctly. We should respect science because it can't make up its mind, throws ideas away when they become embarrassing, and jump after whatever new idea is most fashionable.
However, to consider the Truth™ found in most widely printed, published, distributed, read, and believed book in the world, one that has been found by objective sources to be without mistake or error, one that has predictive qualities is ridiculous.
And for this we should take you seriously?
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Re: Dinosaurs: Satan's Greatest Trick -
11-18-2015, 11:50 PM
"Let me see if I understand you correctly. We should respect science because it can't make up its mind, throws ideas away when they become embarrassing, and jump after whatever new idea is most fashionable. "
You deliberately chose to ignore what I wrote and made up something else instead. Clearly, you are an imbecile. It's not that science "can't make up its mind" it's that science chooses to not make up its mind, always looking for more information, always learning, always changing to include new information as we discover it.
Science also does not "throw away ideas when they become embarrassing," they discard ideas when a theory that fits the facts better becomes available.
Science does not "jump after whatever new idea is most fashionable." That is the most ridiculous statement of all. New theories are accepted because they fit the facts, not because they are "fashionable."
Let me see if I can demonstrate this to you. Since information clearly changes between the time you read it on the page and the time it makes it to your brain, it will be difficult, but I will try.
People used to believe that the earth was flat (yes, I know. You people still do, something that I plan to address with a YouTube video soon). Around the 6th century, someone proposed a round earth theory. It was not accepted at the time, and in fact, it did not become accepted by science until there was evidence to support it. When ships were able to sail around the world, people realized that the facts did not support the flat earth theory. By the time that Columbus sailed the ocean blue, in 1492, it was a widely accepted theory (which for all intents and purposes means fact, but science is not to so arrogant as to assume just because they have a theory that fits the facts that it is the only possible solution, which is why they are called theories).
When the facts proved that the earth was definitely not flat, scientists stopped believing it. Just as they did with all of the theories you listed. That what good science does. It discards what is obviously not true. If you people shared that same thirst for the truth you would discard all that crap you believe from the bible and start seeking out the truth, and understanding how our world works and the miracle of creation is worth a billion "religious experiences."
As for the bible being the most published/read/believed/etc. book in the world, that is true, but the Quran is only second by a very small margin on all of those factors. Does that mean it is the second truest book? Does the fact that something is popular mean it's true? 'Harry Potter Series' was some of the most popular books of the 20th century - does the popularity of the series mean that it must be true?
As for believing that the bible is without error or mistake, you obviously haven't done your research. The bible is full of mistakes and errors, not to mention abominable morality. I won't cite the hundreds of mistakes and errors, but I will include one or two as an example. We all know the value of pi is 3.141592653etc but according to I Kings that's incorrect. Ridiculous. Also, its kind of strange that all those satellites that run our cellphones were able to make it through the "firmament" that is supposed to make a roof over our "flat earth." Good lord. How can you believe this crap?
As for the 2500 or so "prophecies" that are supposed to have come true, almost all of them have only "come true" because it says they did in the bible. There is no outside evidence for any of them. The rest - they are so vague that how could you possibly call them prophecy? "There will be wars and rumors of wars." Good heck, that's like making a prophecy saying "People will eat food and drink water and have sex." OF COURSE THEY WILL! People have been warring their entire existence, it is not a stretch to think they would keep on doing it.
Anyway, I'm done with this forum. I thought that by giving you some factual information, you might actually close your bible and do some real research. That's obviously not going to happen, so I'm going to quit wasting my time.
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Re: Dinosaurs: Satan's Greatest Trick -
11-18-2015, 11:58 PM
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Gabriel you must be a scientist! You seem to have a fine overstanding of many things but I think you are wrong some too. Why do you think the Earth is so old? That cannot be.
These white people are very friendly but they do not appreciate very intelligent people coming to their forum and trying to tell them they are wrong. And especially when the smart stranger is usually wrong. Why do not you act friendly and let these Baptists tell you about Jesus?
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