[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by promethium

i'm STD free

Is this always the first thing you say when you meet new people?

[Ihearjesuzliksthecoc]

hahahahaha.....lol....you christians be fuucking hilarious...first you think that creating all mankind from dirt...dirt....that you are the chosen few with the knowledge and health simply because you believe in the cosmic zombie jew sacrifices himself just for you....ahhhhh that's the cutest childrens story since the bible......Welll...once all you you retards realize what pieces of shit you little jesuspiffleers are...than we can have an intellectual conversation....Heyyyyy the guy who posted the first comment went to a religious SCHOOL.....LOLOLOLOOLOL..that's golden!!!! religion...being thought as fact or useful knowledge....thats like the best most obvious oxymormon ever!!!!!!
"hey i have a degree in religious faggorty!!!" lol.... everyone here go die...

[Iamachristian]

Jesus loves all his children. Even the cripples. If Jesus didn't love the cripples then would they not be in existence? Can you please tell me where in the bible it says that "parents who are sinful have cripple children?" Also how can you call your selves christians if you preach hatred. I do not understand? In my church we view all members of society as equals. The cripples and all! If any thing we donate our time and money to help the people who are less fortunate than us. I believe I will get banned for this post because my believes are different than yours. I believe that you don't like my message and you cannot stand to hear anyone with an opposing opinion. I view my self as a devout christian. I donate time and money to the community and help build churches of all denominations. What have you done? Have you helped out your community or have you complained on how "sinful" and "bad" they are? Did Jesus not allow the prostitutes to worship him? Did he not let the lady use her tears and hair to was his feet? I think it is a great accomplishment for a cripple person to gain his own television show!

Here let me quote my favorite verse of the bible for you!

Numbers 32:23
"be sure your sins will find you out"

You know about YOUR sins. YOU know what YOU'VE done. No one is perfect. But your sins will find YOU out. Trust me.

I just hope you are able to sleep at nights. I am not saying you are going to hell. I am not saying you are "evil". I am just saying you have strayed off from the light of God. You need to re think your methods of thinking. If you are too stubborn to do so, then may God have mercy on your souls.

[Zeus345]

And you people call your self chiristians? doesnt god love all? if this were your kid, i bet you couldnt abort it.

hes having fun. people think hes funny. the hell is wrong with someone being happy?

[Nobar King]

Abortion is a sin, little girl.

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by Zeus345

doesnt god love all?

No!

Proverbs 6:16-19 "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."

Deuteronomy 12:31 "You must not worship the LORD your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the LORD hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods."

2nd Chronicles 15:13 "That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman."

Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

John 15:6 "If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned."

[kingrat2314]

I cannot believe what is going on here. And you call yourselves Christians? You are misinterpreting the bible. You all are making me ashamed of being Christian. I'll pray for your souls.

[Levi Jones]

Originally Posted by Iamachristian

Jesus loves all his children.

He loves His children, but those who refuse to follow Him are damned.

Originally Posted by Iamachristian

Even the cripples. If Jesus didn't love the cripples then would they not be in existence?

Does Jesus love child molesters, rapists, murders and witches? No, yet they exist.

Originally Posted by Iamachristian

Can you please tell me where in the bible it says that "parents who are sinful have cripple children?"

Exodus 20:5 I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Originally Posted by Iamachristian

Also how can you call your selves christians if you preach hatred.

We don't teach hatred. We teach the entire Bible including the verses your false Christian pastor won't.

Originally Posted by Iamachristian

Have you helped out your community or have you complained on how "sinful" and "bad" they are?

We run an ex-gay program. We have a free summer camp for underprivileged children. We run a special ministry for young women and men at risk to name a few.

Originally Posted by Iamachristian

No one is perfect.

That is a complete lie. Please look at my sermon supported by scripture. True Christians are Perfect!

[Benedict A. Davis]

Originally Posted by kingrat2314

I cannot believe what is going on here. And you call yourselves Christians? You are misinterpreting the bible. You all are making me ashamed of being Christian. I'll pray for your souls.

Please tell me how we are misrepresenting anything. While warm and fluffy buffet Christians, LIKE YOURSELF, pick and choose bits of the Bible that suits their mood, here at LBC the bible is followed in it's entirety. In the real world you have to take the good with the bad, so to speak.Only in a fantasy world does everybody ''live happily ever after''. Show me in the bible, anywhere, that it says ''you can ignore this bit here'' and I will admit that we are doing it wrong at LBC.If you can not I hope you will admit the same.

[SourceLouise]

Originally Posted by Mrs. P Wintersnow

Why do you hate Jesus so and why are you choosing to burn in hell?

YIC,

Mrs.P.Wintersnow

As an atheist I don't hate Jesus at all. If he existed he must have been a great philosopher with an important message and valuable life lessons and far ahead of his time. I admire his message and if everyone lived by it the world would truly be a better place. However most people, including most christians as proven by this thread, don't.

Why would I choose to burn in hell? Well first off I don't believe in hell. Second, if there really was an afterlife then I definitely would not want to spend eternity with the likes of you people. If god actually did exist and he is the way you people describe him then I would much rather be in hell. I am better than you or your god, I am much more moral and ironically as an atheist I live more by Jesus' message than any of you, or so it would seem by this thread.
You people blindly and litterally follow scripture, Jesus ignored scripture when it was in favor of human interest (let he who has never sinned throw the first stone, helping people on the sabbath,...). You people look down on the crippled, Jesus embraced and helped them.

If Jesus actually existed then I'm sure he was a pretty good guy and hats off to him, however it's his hypocritical and immoral fan club I have a problem with. And the funny thing is, if Jesus was real and alive today he would too, because this thread alone is the exact opposite of what he would do.

Originally Posted by aim for heaven

Please tell me how we are misrepresenting anything. While warm and fluffy buffet Christians, LIKE YOURSELF, pick and choose bits of the Bible that suits their mood, here at LBC the bible is followed in it's entirety. In the real world you have to take the good with the bad, so to speak.Only in a fantasy world does everybody ''live happily ever after''. Show me in the bible, anywhere, that it says ''you can ignore this bit here'' and I will admit that we are doing it wrong at LBC.If you can not I hope you will admit the same.

Even though it's hypocritical to pick and choose which parts of the bible to believe, I have more respect for those people than people who follow it blindly and litterally. Why? Well because they are smart enough to realise that certain (well most) parts of the bible are immoral when compared to today's standards. Therefor they pick the parts that are moral and live by those rules while ignoring the parts that don't fit in with today's society. Your group on the other hand follows the bible blindly, no matter what it says, and don't deny that because many in the thread here have said they follow the bible to the letter. In this case I ask myself the "what if" question. Lets take Levi Jone's examples, if the bible promoted child molesting, would you still follow it? If it promoted rape, if it promoted murder, if it promoted witchcraft? My guess would be yes. Also lets not forget that these actions are often aproved by god in the bible, God orders someone to kill the first person he sees on his return after letting him win a war and it turns out to be his own daughter (murder). God orders Abraham to kill his own son, as a test but still the child sees his father approach with a knife to slay him, nowadays we'd call that attempted murder and child abuse. Lot kindly offered his daughters to a mob of rapists so they could rape them instead of the angels (rape & child molesting, and he's supposed to be the only good guy left?). And let's not forget god's killcount which vastly exceeds satan's (genocide).

And also, funny enough, you're contradicting yourself. You say that you have to take the good with the bad, someone else in the thread said "I didn't make the rules, I just follow them". Which leads me to believe that you realise that there are bad things in the bible, and for the other person that he doesn't completely agree with the rules, but yet you both follow them anyway.

[Nobar King]

You think Jesus is just some kind of fantasy? What kind of drugs are you ON?

[Levi Jones]

Originally Posted by SourceLouise

As an atheist I don't hate Jesus at all. If he existed he must have been a great philosopher with an important message and valuable life lessons and far ahead of his time. I admire his message and if everyone lived by it the world would truly be a better place.

Indeed, if people would only to Jesus when He said,
Matthew 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Originally Posted by SourceLouise

However most people, including most christians as proven by this thread, don't.

Show us what we are doing wrong, biblically wrong. Support your statement with scripture. If you would sit down and actually read the Bible instead of using it for rolling papers, you would realize we are right.

Originally Posted by SourceLouise

Why would I choose to burn in hell? Well first off I don't believe in hell. Second, if there really was an afterlife then I definitely would not want to spend eternity with the likes of you people.

Isn't free will great? I will be in Heaven with my brothers and sisters while you burn in the lake of fire for all eternity.

Originally Posted by SourceLouise

I am better than you or your god, I am much more moral and ironically as an atheist I live more by Jesus' message than any of you, or so it would seem by this thread.

I very strongly doubt that.

Originally Posted by SourceLouise

Even though it's hypocritical to pick and choose which parts of the bible to believe, I have more respect for those people than people who follow it blindly and litterally.

You think you know more than God?
You think it's up to man to pick and choose what parts you believe?

2 Timothy 3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Originally Posted by SourceLouise

Your group on the other hand follows the bible blindly, no matter what it says, and don't deny that because many in the thread here have said they follow the bible to the letter.

Correct

Originally Posted by SourceLouise

In this case I ask myself the "what if" question. Lets take Levi Jone's examples, if the bible promoted child molesting, would you still follow it? If it promoted rape, if it promoted murder, if it promoted witchcraft? My guess would be yes.

I don't deal in what if's. The Bible is what it is perfectly given to man.

Originally Posted by SourceLouise

Which leads me to believe that you realise that there are bad things in the bible, and for the other person that he doesn't completely agree with the rules, but yet you both follow them anyway.

Correct, what may seem a bit harsh to me in the Bible is not mine to make judgment calls on. I simply have to obey it without question.

[Benedict A. Davis]

Originally Posted by SourceLouise

As an atheist I don't hate Jesus at all. If he existed he must have been a great philosopher with an important message and valuable life lessons and far ahead of his time. I admire his message and if everyone lived by it the world would truly be a better place. However most people, including most christians as proven by this thread, don't.

Why would I choose to burn in hell? Well first off I don't believe in hell. Second, if there really was an afterlife then I definitely would not want to spend eternity with the likes of you people. If god actually did exist and he is the way you people describe him then I would much rather be in hell. I am better than you or your god, I am much more moral and ironically as an atheist I live more by Jesus' message than any of you, or so it would seem by this thread.
You people blindly and litterally follow scripture, Jesus ignored scripture when it was in favor of human interest (let he who has never sinned throw the first stone, helping people on the sabbath,...). You people look down on the crippled, Jesus embraced and helped them.

If Jesus actually existed then I'm sure he was a pretty good guy and hats off to him, however it's his hypocritical and immoral fan club I have a problem with. And the funny thing is, if Jesus was real and alive today he would too, because this thread alone is the exact opposite of what he would do.





Even though it's hypocritical to pick and choose which parts of the bible to believe, I have more respect for those people than people who follow it blindly and litterally. Why? Well because they are smart enough to realise that certain (well most) parts of the bible are immoral when compared to today's standards. Therefor they pick the parts that are moral and live by those rules while ignoring the parts that don't fit in with today's society. Your group on the other hand follows the bible blindly, no matter what it says, and don't deny that because many in the thread here have said they follow the bible to the letter. In this case I ask myself the "what if" question. Lets take Levi Jone's examples, if the bible promoted child molesting, would you still follow it? If it promoted rape, if it promoted murder, if it promoted witchcraft? My guess would be yes. Also lets not forget that these actions are often aproved by god in the bible, God orders someone to kill the first person he sees on his return after letting him win a war and it turns out to be his own daughter (murder). God orders Abraham to kill his own son, as a test but still the child sees his father approach with a knife to slay him, nowadays we'd call that attempted murder and child abuse. Lot kindly offered his daughters to a mob of rapists so they could rape them instead of the angels (rape & child molesting, and he's supposed to be the only good guy left?). And let's not forget god's killcount which vastly exceeds satan's (genocide).

And also, funny enough, you're contradicting yourself. You say that you have to take the good with the bad, someone else in the thread said "I didn't make the rules, I just follow them". Which leads me to believe that you realise that there are bad things in the bible, and for the other person that he doesn't completely agree with the rules, but yet you both follow them anyway.

I have highlighted several comments only to draw your attention to the statement you made not as a way to pick and choose. I do not want to be accused of that by anyone after saying one must take something in its entirety. I want to thank you for admitting that warm and fluffy Christians are being hypocritical in their picking and choosing how they believe.

You say that they pick and choose to fit into today's society. Please show me where God instructed anyone to amend the Bible to fit the mores of the present society.He actually says that the laws he laid down were for the time they were written and for ever after.
Be ye mindful always of his covenant; the word which he commanded to a thousand generations ... an everlasting covenant. 1 Chronicles 16:15

You found it wrong would we do it. Yes we would. But let me remind you of a time when just being Christian got you fed to lions...for sport because Christianity went against society. Remember stories of Nero and his pals?

Would we break existing laws if it were inferred in the bible not commanded. No because again the bible tells us to obey secular laws.
Romans 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
1st Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
and my favorite
st Peter 2:15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

Next you speak of specific persons. I truly hope that if any Christian were told by God directly then they would obey no matter what the task. If they would not they have no real faith and have lived a lie.

Finally my last point . You quote me as saying ''take the good with the bad'', you cut my quote a bit short as I had finished the sentence by saying ''so to speak'' meaning I was using a well known phrase out of context and not literally.
I do hope that this helps you and others better understand us and I do hope you too will come to understand the Bible as we do at LBC.
YIC

[Phebe Carlyle]

Originally Posted by SourceLouise

As an atheist I don't hate Jesus at all. If he existed he must have been a great philosopher with an important message and valuable life lessons and far ahead of his time. I admire his message and if everyone lived by it the world would truly be a better place. However most people, including most christians as proven by this thread, don't.

It is strange that you claim not to hate Jesus, when in your first sentence alone, writes Him of as being merely hypothetical with your "IF".

Why would I choose to burn in hell?

Because you are atheist scum and use "IF" and because of your lack of belief, choose to not believe in Him. .

Well first off I don't believe in hell.

That is your 2nd mistake.

Second, if there really was an afterlife then I definitely would not want to spend eternity with the likes of you people.

Again with your "if's". I don't think you KNOW anything. Probably because you have never even read the KJV1611. WHEN you read it, all these silly questions of yours will be answered and The Truth will be revealed to you.

If god actually did exist and he is the way you people describe him then I would much rather be in hell. I am better than you or your god, I am much more moral and ironically as an atheist I live more by Jesus' message than any of you, or so it would seem by this thread.
You people blindly and litterally follow scripture, Jesus ignored scripture when it was in favor of human interest (let he who has never sinned throw the first stone, helping people on the sabbath,...). You people look down on the crippled, Jesus embraced and helped them.

I find it blasphemous that atheist scum like yourself would assume heirachy over God Himself!
Jesus, who IS God BTW (if you had read your kjv1611 you would KNOW THAT).

Jesus spoke quite clearly in Matthew as to WHY he came down and died (temporarily) for us all.

Matthew 10:34-39

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

39He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.



And the thing is, hes Jesus helped people; people with the palsy, he cast out demons..etc... but he did that because he didn't want any retard up in heaven with Him. Before He healed them however, they HAD to repent their sins and accept Him as their Savior. He had no interest in people not first willing to help themselves and seek salvation in Him.

If Jesus actually existed then I'm sure he was a pretty good guy and hats off to him, however it's his hypocritical and immoral fan club I have a problem with. And the funny thing is, if Jesus was real and alive today he would too, because this thread alone is the exact opposite of what he would do.

Of course Jesus was and IS a good guy. I truly doubt however, knowing Jesus a lot better than you do, (QUITE OBVIOUSLY) that he would see you as a devout disciple, but rather he would see you as someone quite clearly flauting his teachings. As such, you will Burn in Hell, believer in him or not.

Also, BTW. Jesus does not like people whom also ignore the common courtesy of introduction. I find it amazing that heathens such as yourself just walk into God's Favorite Forum, uninvited no less, spewing forth your venom and God-mockery and don't even have the moral courtesy to introduce yourself. *shaking head* I for one am surely disgusted by your behavior.

YIC,

Mrs.P.Wintersnow

[ThatGuy666]

Well this has got to be one of the most retarded pieces of obscenity deleted excuses to hate on some who, not only is funny, but is COMPLETELY deserving of his own TV show. Honestly, this so called deity you believe in is more of an obscenity deleted than doctor syphillis(the obscenity deleted running against Zach). Go obscenity deleted yourselves for hating on this guy. There is a reason christians are hated all over the world. and this is it right here.

[BelieverInGod]

Originally Posted by ThatGuy666

Well this has got to be one of the most retarded pieces of obscenity deleted excuses to hate on some who, not only is funny, but is COMPLETELY deserving of his own TV show. Honestly, this so called deity you believe in is more of an obscenity deleted than doctor syphillis(the obscenity deleted running against Zach). Go obscenity deleted yourselves for hating on this guy. There is a reason christians are hated all over the world. and this is it right here.

So the guy deserves his own show just because he's a cripple? Gods take on it is very different.

Ex.4:11
Who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?

Lev.21:17-23
Whosoever ... hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God. For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken; No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God. ... Only he shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my sanctuaries.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Originally Posted by ThatGuy666

Well this has got to be one of the most retarded pieces of obscenity deleted excuses to hate on some who, not only is funny, but is COMPLETELY deserving of his own TV show. Honestly, this so called deity you believe in is more of an obscenity deleted than doctor syphillis(the obscenity deleted running against Zach). Go obscenity deleted yourselves for hating on this guy. There is a reason christians are hated all over the world. and this is it right here.

So you want this retard to get his own show so that you can laugh at his expense? What is wrong with you?

There used to be a "comedian" here in Australia called "Steddy Eddy", who used to use his retarded-ness for the sake of a joke, and disgusting people, such as yourself used to laugh constantly at him and his horrible jokes.

I suppose if a retard is telling the joke about retards, it makes it OK in your eyes to have a laugh and take glee in other's misfortune?

People like you make me sick

God speaks of horrible people like you.

Proverbs 17:5

Whoso mocketh the poor reproacheth his Maker: and he that is glad at calamities shall not be unpunished.

YIC,

Mrs.P.Wintersnow