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Re: Prove that gingers have souls! -
10-10-2016, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by alannababe
Ah, so everyone else can make claims without evidentiary support but not me? Where in scripture does it say that redheads DON'T have souls? Where's your proof?
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I suggest you to make your own board, and there you can start any challenges you want. If you choose to stay here, please keep the topic, which is to prove that redheads have soul.
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Re: Prove that gingers have souls! -
10-11-2016, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Unbridgeable
I suggest you to make your own board, and there you can start any challenges you want. If you choose to stay here, please keep the topic, which is to prove that redheads have soul.
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Okay, here's some proof based on the Hebrew words describing Adam, Esau, and King David. Knowledge. Get some.
First of all linguistically:
[Genesis 2:7] AND THE LORD GOD FORMED MAN [ha-ADaM] OF THE DUST OF THE GROUND [ha-ADaMaH], AND BREATHED INTO HIS NOSTRILS THE BREATH OF LIFE; AND MAN BECAME A LIVING SOUL.
The Hebrew word for man [Adam: Aleph-daleth- mem] is linked to the word for ground [Adamah: Aleph-daleth- mem-heh]. The Hebrew word for red is edom [Aleph-daleth-vav-mem] and it may be connected to the same root as the words for man and for ground or earth. On the other hand, Iben Shushan in his Hebrew Concordance of the Bible ("Concordantzia leTanach") says that the word "edom" meaning red derives from the same root as "dam" meaning blood, i.e. red like blood. At all events edom does not mean brown. In Hebrew the word for brown is "choom" from which we have the name "Ham" (Cham) son of Noah.
"Admoni" according to the Concordance of Iben Shushan means inclined to red.
Both Esau and David were described as "admoni".
Concerning the birth of Esau (who was later renamed Edom) it says:
[Genesis 25:25] AND THE FIRST CAME OUT RED [admoni], ALL OVER LIKE AN HAIRY GARMENT; AND THEY CALLED HIS NAME ESAU.
Regarding David:
[1-Samuel 16:12] AND HE SENT, AND BROUGHT HIM IN. NOW HE WAS RUDDY [admoni], AND WITHAL OF A BEAUTIFUL COUNTENANCE, AND GOODLY TO LOOK TO. AND THE LORD SAID, ARISE, ANOINT HIM: FOR THIS IS HE.
And again concerning David:
[1-Samuel 17:42] AND WHEN THE PHILISTINE [Goliath] LOOKED ABOUT, AND SAW DAVID, HE DISDAINED HIM: FOR HE WAS BUT A YOUTH, AND RUDDY [admoni], AND OF A FAIR COUNTENANCE.
We see that in one case (Gen.25:25) the King James Version translates the Hebrew "admoni" as red and in another two cases (1-Samuel 16:12, 17:42) it renders it as "ruddy" i.e. reddish. In Hebrew Literature you can find the word "admoni" used in all kinds of contexts but in the earliest examples it seems to mean someone who is red-haired. In Jewish popular tradition of both Ashkenazim and Sephardim it is generally accepted that David had red-hair. The word "admoni" usually means someone with red hair but in some cases it can also mean someone who is blond or blond inclined to red. It is often taken as synonymous with the Modern Hebrew slang word "gingi" (from ginger) meaning blond or red haired.
At all events concerning Esau and David even though one could perhaps conceivably interpret "admoni" to mean ruddy in complexion, red-haired would be the more likely explanation and moist consistent with the literal intent of Scripture....[read article here]
Given that Adam and David had souls, all gingers have souls.
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Re: Prove that gingers have souls! -
10-11-2016, 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by alannababe
Okay, here's some proof based on the Hebrew words describing Adam, Esau, and King David. Knowledge. Get some.
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Wooow I'm gonna learn!!! Thanks!
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Originally Posted by alannababe
First of all linguistically:
[Genesis 2:7] AND THE LORD GOD FORMED MAN [ha-ADaM] OF THE DUST OF THE GROUND [ha-ADaMaH], AND BREATHED INTO HIS NOSTRILS THE BREATH OF LIFE; AND MAN BECAME A LIVING SOUL.
The Hebrew word for man [Adam: Aleph-daleth- mem] is linked to the word for ground [Adamah: Aleph-daleth- mem-heh]. The Hebrew word for red is edom [Aleph-daleth-vav-mem] and it may be connected to the same root as the words for man and for ground or earth. On the other hand, Iben Shushan in his Hebrew Concordance of the Bible ("Concordantzia leTanach") says that the word "edom" meaning red derives from the same root as "dam" meaning blood, i.e. red like blood. At all events edom does not mean brown. In Hebrew the word for brown is "choom" from which we have the name "Ham" (Cham) son of Noah.
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You know I have adressed this point in my previous post, don't you? The one before the one you have answered.
Adam comes from the dust of the ground, saying that he was red is stretch of interpretation.
Esau, in the other hand, had his nickname Edom and probably was redhaired. Guess what? He was hated by God for apparently no reason. God preferred Jacob, who was not red haired. And no, you have not proved that Esau had a soul.
A nickname is something that is given for a reason, sometimes physical, sometimes of character. A name is not.
As for Adam:
1) Do you know that there is a difference between having the same root and having the same meaning?
2) My first name means "protector of the realm". And I'm not protector of any realm.
So you have not proof that Adam was red haired, you are bordering heresy here.
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Originally Posted by alannababe
"Admoni" according to the Concordance of Iben Shushan means inclined to red.
Both Esau and David were described as "admoni".
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You are not quoting Jews, aren't you? You know they have killed Christ, and they refuse to accept half of the Bible, don't you?
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Originally Posted by alannababe
Concerning the birth of Esau (who was later renamed Edom) it says:
[Genesis 25:25] AND THE FIRST CAME OUT RED [admoni], ALL OVER LIKE AN HAIRY GARMENT; AND THEY CALLED HIS NAME ESAU.
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I have adressed the topic of Esau, in my earlier post and this same post. Case closed, no more questions your honour, the prosecution rests,
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Originally Posted by alannababe
Regarding David:
[1-Samuel 16:12] AND HE SENT, AND BROUGHT HIM IN. NOW HE WAS RUDDY [admoni], AND WITHAL OF A BEAUTIFUL COUNTENANCE, AND GOODLY TO LOOK TO. AND THE LORD SAID, ARISE, ANOINT HIM: FOR THIS IS HE.
And again concerning David:
[1-Samuel 17:42] AND WHEN THE PHILISTINE [Goliath] LOOKED ABOUT, AND SAW DAVID, HE DISDAINED HIM: FOR HE WAS BUT A YOUTH, AND RUDDY [admoni], AND OF A FAIR COUNTENANCE.
We see that in one case (Gen.25:25) the King James Version translates the Hebrew "admoni" as red and in another two cases (1-Samuel 16:12, 17:42) it renders it as "ruddy" i.e. reddish. In Hebrew Literature you can find the word "admoni" used in all kinds of contexts but in the earliest examples it seems to mean someone who is red-haired. In Jewish popular tradition of both Ashkenazim and Sephardim it is generally accepted that David had red-hair. The word "admoni" usually means someone with red hair but in some cases it can also mean someone who is blond or blond inclined to red. It is often taken as synonymous with the Modern Hebrew slang word "gingi" (from ginger) meaning blond or red haired.
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So the Jews are saying that David was red-haired. Surprise, surprise. You DO know that the Jews are damned and going to hell, don't you?
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Originally Posted by alannababe
At all events concerning Esau and David even though one could perhaps conceivably interpret "admoni" to mean ruddy in complexion, red-haired would be the more likely explanation and moist consistent with the literal intent of Scripture....[read article here]
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So he had ruddy cheeks. He was NOT red haired. No proof here.
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Originally Posted by alannababe
Given that Adam and David had souls, all gingers have souls.
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Given that you have not provided any proof for Adam and David being gingers, then your conclusion is a fallacy.
Don't be sad, I know it is sad to be rejected by God (I am in the same situation as adressed in my earlier post that you obviously did not read)
To start a path to salvation, maybe you can go to the introduction forum and tell us who you are, how did you come to know Jesus, and which Church do you go. I mean, following the rules of this forum for God's sake (literally God's sake)
1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.
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Re: Prove that gingers have souls! -
10-11-2016, 04:14 AM
I apologize for my disrespect, I concede to your argument
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Re: Prove that gingers have souls! -
10-11-2016, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by alannababe
I apologize for my disrespect, I concede to your argument
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Progress! You may achieve salvation yet.
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Re: Prove that gingers have souls! -
10-16-2018, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BaptistBethany
A True Christian woman would never give birth to a ginger. There! Does that answer your question?
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Truer words were never spoken! Why, even if I didn't have the good sense not to do such a thing, Mr. Etheldreda would be sure to correct me so hard I couldn't sit for a month, much less speak without a giant lisp!
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Re: Prove that gingers have souls! -
10-18-2018, 05:16 PM
Given the information here, I dyed my hair blonde
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Re: Prove that gingers have souls! -
10-18-2018, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by alannababe
Given the information here, I dyed my hair blonde
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Honey, you dye to go darker. Ginger --> blonde would be bleaching.
/boaflickandsashayoff
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Re: Prove that gingers have souls! -
10-18-2018, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by alannababe
Given the information here, I dyed my hair blonde
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Originally Posted by Didymus Much
Honey, you dye to go darker. Ginger --> blonde would be bleaching.
/boaflickandsashayoff
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No matter what you do to the drapes, Jesus sees the original carpet and knows it is just a HGTV slut weekend makeover. When God looks deep into your hollow eyes, He sees the soulless emptiness that all gingers are.
Really quite sad, making Jesus see these things. Bad enough the joos nailed Him to a cross, but to have to add insult to injury.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: Prove that gingers have souls! -
10-18-2018, 08:12 PM
I suspect that God can tell the difference between a vulgar bleached blonde and a natural, sun-kissed blonde like Sister Mary Etheldreda. (And by "suspect" I mean "am 100% confident".)
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