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Default Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! - 10-03-2010, 10:51 AM

Your comments to Brother Porter are the smallest part of your misunderstandings, miss.

I have read back through all your posts on this thread (again all done prior to posting an introduction of your own) and it appears that you accept only PART of Jesus and His teachings.

As a result, you have quoted cherry-picked scripture to make the point YOU want to make, rather than the POINTS God makes.

I have to wonder if you have ever read the Bible in its entirety?

I do appreciate that you know some of the verses but Jesus is far more complex than you are giving Him credit for.

So as such by your cherry-picking, you are selling God short.

BTW with the above, I am delivering RIGHTEOUS judgement of your actions.

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Default Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! - 10-03-2010, 04:12 PM

okay, so how about this
"I am not afrid to keep on living i am not afraid to walk this world alone"
"We'll carry on"
not exactly telling us to die is it?

So no, they shouldnt
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Default Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! - 10-03-2010, 07:27 PM

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Your comments to Brother Porter are the smallest part of your misunderstandings, miss.

I have read back through all your posts on this thread (again all done prior to posting an introduction of your own) and it appears that you accept only PART of Jesus and His teachings.

As a result, you have quoted cherry-picked scripture to make the point YOU want to make, rather than the POINTS God makes.

I have to wonder if you have ever read the Bible in its entirety?

I do appreciate that you know some of the verses but Jesus is far more complex than you are giving Him credit for.

So as such by your cherry-picking, you are selling God short.

BTW with the above, I am delivering RIGHTEOUS judgement of your actions.

YIC

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I sense a lot of aggression from your part and really don't understand why. I am only asking questions. TRYING to understand and as I have tried to mention in every single one of my post, I ADMIT fully that I don't know enough about the Bible, the teachings and how you think. That is what I am really trying to grasp.

You say you deliver righteous judgement of my actions. Well, please explain then to me. I am here to learn, to listen and I am trying seriously to understand. I don't understand why u think I am cherry picking, because I don't have a point to prove, I am only asking questions. So how am I cherry picking by asking questions and basically admitting that when it comes to your way of experiencing and executing your religion, I fully admit that I am an ignorant, unsaved twat. I really admit that.

So please tell me what point do you think I am trying to make, so I can work on my communication skills.

The only fact that I have stated in my posts (to my knowledge) is that I think that the way you judge MCR, is false, because I have seen otherwise from experience. That is the only thing. But I am not even making that much of a point of that, I am just trying to understand, so please, teach me.

And from the second infraction that I got 'complaining about an infraction' - again, I thought I was asking for an explanation, which isn't the same in my eyes (again, not trying to complain, just trying to understand each others way of communicating)
I am trying to respect everyone on this forum, no matter what their beliefs are. please be patient with me.

If you don't have the time, I understand.

Best regards,
the human

PS: and no, as I admitted in my first post, I haven't read the bible entirely yet.
but, and I say this with all respect, personally I could never judge over something that I don't know the facts about. I believe in opening your mouth about an injustice, I really do and feel very strongly about that, but I do believe that judgement should be passed with a lot of care. this is a personal opinion of mine, and I am not saying, u judge too fast, there is probably a good reason why u do this, i just really don't understand that you don't see what I am asking. I hope u understand what I am asking.
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Default Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! - 10-03-2010, 09:10 PM

Was that a question? I didn't see any question marks.

You do realize that Jesus brought you here for a reason, don't you? These things don't just happen by chance; they are all part of His Plan. So I am glad to see that you seem to be keeping an open mind. You have a lot to learn from us, and I sincerely hope you will take your first steps toward Salvation™ so that you can join us in Heaven.

If you are wondering why this satanic band is out of favor with God, I would first direct your attention to their name - My Chemical Romance. This is clearly a reference to narcotics abuse and fornication. These are two of satan's deadliest lures, designed to lead souls away from Jesus. You can't be a Christian and listen to such filth. It is nothing short of aural pornography! God tells us that we are to separate ourselves from the wickedness of the world if we are to be a part of His Kingdom.

I John 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

James 4:4
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.


You say that you have not read the Bible (KJV 1611), and that is a shame. Fortunately, we have a program right here that is just right for someone like you.

Please visit Brother V's guided Bible in a Year, and start at Genesis, chapter 1. We are here to help you, friend. You have a friend in Jesus.


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Talking Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! - 10-04-2010, 05:35 AM

are you guys serious? this is honestly the most stupid, pathetic thing i have ever heard!
i'm a 16 year old girl, my chemical romance saved my piffleing life.
"just know it's okay to be messed up, cause there's five guys out there just as messed up as you are." that line right there gave me the confidence to go on.
that is more than anything the bible could teach me.
i want you to go out there and have a chat to young mcr fans, see what they have to say.
i'm as happy as piffleing larry, right now i am listening to my chemical romance as loud as it will go, smiling and laughing.
honestly, i don't want to go to 'heaven' if hypocritical guys like you are there, send me to hell, i'd rather be with someone who makes sense.
peace <3

oh and gays are lovely, they're sweet and caring! <3
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Default Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! - 10-04-2010, 05:53 AM

oh and another thing:
"Hey, girls, you're beautiful. Don't look at those stupid magazines with sticklike models. Eat healthy and exercise. That's all. Don't let anyone tell you you're not good enough. You're good enough, you are too good. Love your family with all your heart and listen to it. You are gorgeous, whether you're a size 4 or 14. It doesn't matter what you look like on the outside, as long as you're a good person, as long as you respect others. I know it's been told hundreds of times before, but it's true. Hey, girls, you are beautiful."
— Gerard Way

WHAT A HORRIBLE HORRIBLE MAN! TELLING GIRLS THAT THEY DON'T NEED A GOD DAMN EATING DISORDER TO BE BEAUTIFUL!
*INSERT profanity removed* SARCASM!*
look into what you're preaching against before you do it. you're very small minded and un-educated in ways other than the bible.
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Default Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! - 10-04-2010, 06:31 AM

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oh and another thing:
"Hey, girls, you're beautiful. Don't look at those stupid magazines with sticklike models. Eat healthy and exercise. That's all. Don't let anyone tell you you're not good enough. You're good enough, you are too good. Love your family with all your heart and listen to it. You are gorgeous, whether you're a size 4 or 14. It doesn't matter what you look like on the outside, as long as you're a good person, as long as you respect others. I know it's been told hundreds of times before, but it's true. Hey, girls, you are beautiful."
— Gerard Way
WHAT A HORRIBLE HORRIBLE MAN! TELLING GIRLS THAT THEY DON'T NEED A GOD DAMN EATING DISORDER TO BE BEAUTIFUL!
*INSERT profanity removed* SARCASM!*
look into what you're preaching against before you do it. you're very small minded and un-educated in ways other than the bible.
have fun blocking me for having an opinion by the way
peace and love <3
Really? What if the Girl is a 16? According to him, "girls" don't even come in that size. What if the girls family is telling her she's fat? Who should she listen to? Who knows, maybe he's into chubby chicks.

Look it doesn't matter if he says something right once in a while; even a broken clock is right twice a day. Because Muslims stone Homosexuals, does that make it the right religion? Because John Wayne Gacey entertained children at a hospital, did that make him a good man? You're not just cherry picking the Bible, you've made this group your god, and are attempting to hold them up as some sort of sinless example. Do you really think that's what Jesus wants to see?


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Default Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! - 10-04-2010, 07:18 AM

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Really? What if the Girl is a 16? According to him, "girls" don't even come in that size. What if the girls family is telling her she's fat? Who should she listen to? Who knows, maybe he's into chubby chicks.

Look it doesn't matter if he says something right once in a while; even a broken clock is right twice a day. Because Muslims stone Homosexuals, does that make it the right religion? Because John Wayne Gacey entertained children at a hospital, did that make him a good man? You're not just cherry picking the Bible, you've made this group your god, and are attempting to hold them up as some sort of sinless example. Do you really think that's what Jesus wants to see?

1. no love, this was a quote, he is clearly saying that everyone is equal, nowhere did he state that size 16 is bad, he actually stated the opposite.
2. well that depends on her situation, if she is morbidly obese, she needs help, but she is still beautiful nonetheless.
3. i like homosexuals, i have alot of friends and family that are gay, they're some of the best people i have met. the fact that they have to put up with people criticizing them and saying that they are not worthy of living makes them strong, amazing people.
4. i don't think that any of those people or religions or whatnot are good, they all promote horrible things, nowhere did i say that i agreed with them, nor do i agree with christianity - clearly.
5. if Gerard is such a horrible person - which he is not, he has been through alot of awful things and has come out of them to help other kids like me - wouldn't he be dead? not living with a beautiful wife and daughter?
6. to be honest, i don't give a damn what jesus wants to see, if there was such things, there wouldn't be wars and starving children and all the horrible things in the world right now, and you are honestly worried about My Chemical Romance? i'm still alive, i listen to MCR on a daily basis, proof?
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Default Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! - 10-04-2010, 07:25 AM

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1. no love, this was a quote, he is clearly saying that everyone is equal, nowhere did he state that size 16 is bad, he actually stated the opposite.
No, he is clearly stating that he wants a woman between sizes 4 to 14, nobody bigger or smaller need apply to be his groupie. Oh, and don't call my wife "love" She is not your love.
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2. well that depends on her situation, if she is morbidly obese, she needs help, but she is still beautiful nonetheless.
Oh, she's beautiful, but she's "morbidly obese" Do you know what Morbid means? It means Unwholesome, ghoulish, offensive, diseased, so you're calling her those things and then saying she's beautiful? Make up your mind.
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3. i like homosexuals, i have alot of friends and family that are gay, they're some of the best people i have met. the fact that they have to put up with people criticizing them and saying that they are not worthy of living makes them strong, amazing people.
I'm just pointing out what the Bible says, if you want to roll in your sinful lifestyle and merrily hold some homers hand on the path to Hell, that's your business, but to come onto a Christian site to try and take God's children with you, that's pure evil.
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4. i don't think that any of those people or religions or whatnot are good, they all promote horrible things, nowhere did i say that i agreed with them, nor do i agree with christianity - clearly.
Then why are you here?
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5. if Gerard is such a horrible person - which he is not, he has been through alot of awful things and has come out of them to help other kids like me - wouldn't he be dead? not living with a beautiful wife and daughter?
Satan himself can appear as an angel of light. Hey even the Antichrist is going to bring world peace.
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6. to be honest, i don't give a damn what jesus wants to see, if there was such things, there wouldn't be wars and starving children and all the horrible things in the world right now, and you are honestly worried about My Chemical Romance? i'm still alive, i listen to MCR on a daily basis, proof?
Again, why are you here? Just because you didn't kill yourself doesn't mean that others didn't. You believe that cigarettes give you cancer, yet I can find numerous people who didn't get cancer from smoking.


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To mcrsaved my life,

If you have no interest in what Jesus has to say, then what are you doing on a Christian Forum?

Just here to spread your atheist hatred?

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PS to Brother Seth. Thank you for coming in and defending your wife's honor against such a brutal attack at the hands of this MCR idolater groupie.






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Default Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! - 10-04-2010, 07:32 AM

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To mcrsaved my life,

If you have no interest in what Jesus has to say, then what are you doing on a Christian Forum?

Just here to spread your atheist hatred?

YIC

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PS to Brother Seth. Thank you for coming in and defending your wife's honor against such a brutal attack at the hands of this MCR idolater groupie.

i am here standing up for what i believe in, reality. i am not spreading hatred at all, i am just trying to tell people the truth other than all the creepy, cult-like, clearly untrue things you people are saying.
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Default Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! - 10-04-2010, 07:38 AM

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okay, so how about this
"I am not afrid to keep on living i am not afraid to walk this world alone"
"We'll carry on"
not exactly telling us to die is it?

So no, they shouldnt
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i am here standing up for what i believe in, reality. i am not spreading hatred at all, i am just trying to tell people the truth other than all the creepy, cult-like, clearly untrue things you people are saying.

Well, this is clearly a CHRISTIAN FORUM. As such, we are free to air our grievances as to what God see's as wrong.

I can understand your tantrum if we were over at a MCR fan site, but you invaded OUR space and frankly, your unsaved trash opinions mean nothing here.

You can try and justify YOUR obvious cult obsession with that band and they are probably rejoicing as yet another teen no-hoper is filling their pockets with cold hard cash. THAT is what they care about. Getting your $$. They don't give two hoots about you otherwise.

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exactly!

WOW a bridge from ONE song out of 8 albums. Excellent example (singular) of their positive message.






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Default Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! - 10-04-2010, 08:14 AM

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No, he is clearly stating that he wants a woman between sizes 4 to 14, nobody bigger or smaller need apply to be his groupie. Oh, and don't call my wife "love" She is not your love.

Oh, she's beautiful, but she's "morbidly obese" Do you know what Morbid means? It means Unwholesome, ghoulish, offensive, diseased, so you're calling her those things and then saying she's beautiful? Make up your mind.

I'm just pointing out what the Bible says, if you want to roll in your sinful lifestyle and merrily hold some homers hand on the path to Hell, that's your business, but to come onto a Christian site to try and take God's children with you, that's pure evil.

Then why are you here?

Satan himself can appear as an angel of light. Hey even the Antichrist is going to bring world peace.

Again, why are you here? Just because you didn't kill yourself doesn't mean that others didn't. You believe that cigarettes give you cancer, yet I can find numerous people who didn't get cancer from smoking.
1) he does not mean it like that, can you be a little open minded, please? also, he has a wife and they don't have "groupies" U__U
and i'm from australia, "love" is an acronym for lady.

2) morbidly obese is a medical condition and beauty is on the inside, not just outside.

3) sure, i'll walk the path to hell with my friends, i don't care.

4) i'm here because my chemical romance is my favorite band, charging someone for murder is not a religious problem, it's a legal problem and this is just idiocy.

5) that's because they have either died from other problems or it is pure luck. you didn't answer my question.
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Default Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! - 10-04-2010, 08:23 AM

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1) he does not mean it like that, can you be a little open minded, please? also, he has a wife and they don't have "groupies" U__U
and i'm from australia, "love" is an acronym for lady.

2) morbidly obese is a medical condition and beauty is on the inside, not just outside.

3) sure, i'll walk the path to hell with my friends, i don't care.

4) i'm here because my chemical romance is my favorite band, charging someone for murder is not a religious problem, it's a legal problem and this is just idiocy.

5) that's because they have either died from other problems or it is pure luck. you didn't answer my question.
I am originally from Australia (moved to the US only 3 months ago and I am 45 yrs old) and "love" is NOT any acronym for "lady". If you claim it to be as such, what words are you saying the initials L. O. V. E. relate to?



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Default Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! - 10-04-2010, 08:24 AM

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Well, this is clearly a CHRISTIAN FORUM. As such, we are free to air our grievances as to what God see's as wrong.

I can understand your tantrum if we were over at a MCR fan site, but you invaded OUR space and frankly, your unsaved trash opinions mean nothing here.

You can try and justify YOUR obvious cult obsession with that band and they are probably rejoicing as yet another teen no-hoper is filling their pockets with cold hard cash. THAT is what they care about. Getting your $$. They don't give two hoots about you otherwise.

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this is not a religious problem though, this is a legal problem. pray against them as much as you want, but trying to put them away for a poor girls suicide is ridiculous.
i can almost guarantee that you haven't listened to the bands side of the story, you haven't actually read into what the lyrics are about, that you haven't talked to any of the fans, that you haven't read or watched an interview with the band members. they're normal people, most of the lyrics you people are posting on this forum are from their concept album, it's a story! there aren't any cryptic messages or lyrics that say "hey kids, go kill yourself!" if you actually wanted to put up a proper fight, read about the band, get to know what they are actually writing about, which is %100 anti-suicide. gerard way was suicidal for quite a bit of his life, i highly doubt that he would want that for anyone.
and i do not have a cult like obsession, i'm a normal 16 year old, they're just my favorite band. i like their message, i think it's positive.
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Default Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! - 10-04-2010, 08:30 AM

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I am originally from Australia (moved to the US only 3 months ago and I am 45 yrs old) and "love" is NOT any acronym for "lady". If you claim it to be as such, what words are you saying the initials L. O. V. E. relate to?



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sorry, i used the wrong word there, what i meant to say was that the people i am around use the word love as in:
"hey love, did you watch neighbors last night?"
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Default Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! - 10-04-2010, 08:35 AM

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this is not a religious problem though, this is a legal problem. pray against them as much as you want, but trying to put them away for a poor girls suicide is ridiculous.
i can almost guarantee that you haven't listened to the bands side of the story, you haven't actually read into what the lyrics are about, that you haven't talked to any of the fans, that you haven't read or watched an interview with the band members. they're normal people, most of the lyrics you people are posting on this forum are from their concept album, it's a story! there aren't any cryptic messages or lyrics that say "hey kids, go kill yourself!" if you actually wanted to put up a proper fight, read about the band, get to know what they are actually writing about, which is %100 anti-suicide. gerard way was suicidal for quite a bit of his life, i highly doubt that he would want that for anyone.
and i do not have a cult like obsession, i'm a normal 16 year old, they're just my favorite band. i like their message, i think it's positive.
It's more than apparent that THNKING is not your strong point. Also, if you look over at the other MCR thread, you will note that I know a lot more about this band than your feeble little mind realizes.

The fact that you are 16 speaks volumes. A little "know it all" mentality,when it is more than apparent that you know diddly.

People who are rock musicians, actors, celebrities et al, will say ANYTHING to sway a vote of popularity their way. It is not until they have "made it" that the sordid truths come out. The publicity junkets that they do to promote their wares are nothing but carefully crafted marketing ploys to such the gullible little NEEDY teens in. They "tell you" what you WANT to hear and that has ZIP to do with the reality of how they ACTUALLY feel. You are the target demographic as there is nothing like an ignored (and starved of actual love and affection) by their parent kid, with $$ to burn to buy their self professed "self help" CD's or whatever other promotional material they are spewing forth.



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Default Re: SHOULD 'MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE' STAND TRIAL FOR MURDER ?!! - 10-04-2010, 08:42 AM

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It's more than apparent that THNKING is not your strong point. Also, if you look over at the other MCR thread, you will note that I know a lot more about this band than your feeble little mind realizes.

The fact that you are 16 speaks volumes. A little "know it all" mentality,when it is more than apparent that you know diddly.

People who are rock musicians, actors, celebrities et al, will say ANYTHING to sway a vote of popularity their way. It is not until they have "made it" that the sordid truths come out. The publicity junkets that they do to promote their wares are nothing but carefully crafted marketing ploys to such the gullible little NEEDY teens in. They "tell you" what you WANT to hear and that has ZIP to do with the reality of how they ACTUALLY feel. You are the target demographic as there is nothing like an ignored (and starved of actual love and affection) by their parent kid, with $$ to burn to buy their self professed "self help" CD's or whatever other promotional material they are spewing forth.



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i can't even continue this conversation, you are going completely off topic. they had the same message when they were playing to five people in a basement. all i am saying is that look into what you are trying to sermonize.
also, why on earth would you say that i am 'starved of love'? you know not one thing about me. i've had a fantastic education and my parents have never tried to push anything i didn't believe on me, i.e.: a religion.
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