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So-Called Bible "Contradictions" Explained! -
05-05-2012, 10:05 PM
Friends, there are a lot of crazies out there who claim there are contradictions in the Bible. However, we all know this is not true. The only problem is that people do not have as big of an imagination as God does. ANY Bible contradiction can be logically explained away if you think about it enough. This is a thread where we can all discuss these in detail. I'll start.
So-Called Contradiction:
Who was Jesus' paternal grandfather?
Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli. So what's up? Does the Bible say in one place that Joseph's father was named Jacob and in another place that his name was Heli?
No, because obviously, in Luke, this is actually a genealogy of Mary, and not of Joseph. DUH! Problem solved.
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Re: So-Called Bible "Contradictions" Explained! -
05-05-2012, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Heathen_Basher
Friends, there are a lot of crazies out there who claim there are contradictions in the Bible. However, we all know this is not true. The only problem is that people do not have as big of an imagination as God does. ANY Bible contradiction can be logically explained away if you think about it enough. This is a thread where we can all discuss these in detail. I'll start.
So-Called Contradiction:
Who was Jesus' paternal grandfather?
Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli. So what's up? Does the Bible say in one place that Joseph's father was named Jacob and in another place that his name was Heli?
No, because obviously, in Luke, this is actually a genealogy of Mary, and not of Joseph. DUH! Problem solved.
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Well thank-you brother, that was preying on my mind. I will sleep soundly tonight.
YIC
Genesis 7:5
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Re: So-Called Bible "Contradictions" Explained! -
05-06-2012, 03:42 PM
Here's another one.
Was John the Baptist Elijah?
Matthew 11:13-14 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come. (also Matthew 17:12-13, Mark 9:13) John 1:21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias [Elijah]? And he saith, I am not. So what's up? Does the Bible say in one part that John is Elijah and in another that he's not?
No, because obviously John was Elijah in spirit but wasn't physically Elijah. DUH! Problem solved.
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Re: So-Called Bible "Contradictions" Explained! -
05-06-2012, 04:57 PM
Brother, it always amazes me how readily these so-called "contradictions" are laid to rest when one actually reads the Holy Word of God!
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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Re: So-Called Bible "Contradictions" Explained! -
05-07-2012, 03:03 PM
Was Abraham justified by faith or works?
Romans 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory.
James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
So what's up? Does the Bible say in one part that Abraham was not justified by works, but in another part that he was.
No, because obviously Abraham was justified by faith alone, but faith without works is dead.
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Re: So-Called Bible "Contradictions" Explained! -
05-07-2012, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mary Etheldreda
Brother, it always amazes me how readily these so-called "contradictions" are laid to rest when one actually reads the Holy Word of God!
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Indeed, Sister. These problems go away when you stop trying to "interpret" God's Word and let it interpret itself.
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Re: So-Called Bible "Contradictions" Explained! -
05-07-2012, 04:10 PM
The average feeble minded God hater sees contridictions where they just don't exist. One of these is how Judas died,
Matthew 27:3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, 4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.
5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.
Acts 1:16 Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus.
17 For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry.
18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.
Obviously both are correct. Judas threw the money down into the temple and then picked it up again when Luke wasn't looking. He then left and bought a field, hung himself from a tree in the middle of the field but then the branch broke so he fell down, twisted in the air and landed so he exploded and all his bowels gushed out.
Simple.
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Jack.
Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.
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Re: So-Called Bible "Contradictions" Explained! -
05-07-2012, 06:00 PM
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Indeed, Sister. These problems go away when you stop trying to "interpret" God's Word and let it interpret itself.
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So true, Brother. Whatever bit of the Bible I'm reading right then and there is obviously the word of God and that's good enough for me.
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Re: So-Called Bible "Contradictions" Explained! -
05-08-2012, 01:22 AM
A lot of stupid atheists don't even understand what the Bible means when it gives three different accounts of JESUS' last words before dying on the cross.
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? - Matthew 27:46
And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. - Luke 23:46
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. - John 19:30
So which were the actual, last words of JESUS?
They all were, duh!
If JESUS is GOD and GOD can be everywhere at once, why can't He say three things at once?
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Re: So-Called Bible "Contradictions" Explained! -
05-08-2012, 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob4God
A lot of stupid atheists don't even understand what the Bible means when it gives three different accounts of JESUS' last words before dying on the cross.
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? - Matthew 27:46
And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. - Luke 23:46
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. - John 19:30
So which were the actual, last words of JESUS?
They all were, duh!
If JESUS is GOD and GOD can be everywhere at once, why can't He say three things at once?
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I'm guessing that the secretary who took Christ's dictation just wrote it down wrong.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: So-Called Bible "Contradictions" Explained! -
05-08-2012, 01:26 PM
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If JESUS is GOD and GOD can be everywhere at once, why can't He say three things at once?
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Indeed, Brother. With God, all things are possible (Matt. 19:26); otherwise, He wouldn't be omnipotent.
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Re: So-Called Bible "Contradictions" Explained! -
05-08-2012, 01:53 PM
This one is a classic:
Exodus 20:13 vs. 1 Samuel 15:3
Atheists say that killing and genocide are the same thing, verily that genocide is just a whole lot of killing. But this is just stupid. Really certain instances of genocide are encouraged by the Bible while killing is outright forbidden. Atheists are just playing semantic games when they say that genocide involves killing. Like most atheistic theories, this is just a word game.
Besides, anyone who notices this is violating Philippians 4:8
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Philippians 4:8
New International Version (NIV)
8 Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.
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Re: So-Called Bible "Contradictions" Explained! -
05-08-2012, 05:30 PM
The census of David. In this so-called contradiction in 2 Sam 24 God tells David to conduct a census. In 1 Chron. 21 it is Satan who tempts David into the census.
2 Samuel 24:1 And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.
1 Chronicles 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.
This one is so easy to explain away. Clearly God and Satan were working together again like they did in the book of Job.
Many times God gives people up, so they'll no longer do the right thing. He leaves them as easy pickings for Satan. That is clearly what has happened here.
God didn't actually tempt David, since we know that God cannot tempt people to do evil.
James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
God simply withdraws His presence and that naturally causes them to be evil, since we all know that no one cannot be good without God's presence. Without God we would all be running around sodomizing everyone we see. This is evidenced by Romans 1.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Once again, DUH God haters!
Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.
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Re: So-Called Bible "Contradictions" Explained! -
05-08-2012, 09:11 PM
And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat. - Genesis 8:4
And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen. - Genesis 8:5
A lot of people who are weak in faith wonder how the Ark came to rest upon the mountains of Ararat in the seventh month of its voyage if the tops of mountains didn't emerge from the flood until the tenth month.
How do we know the Ark wasn't a submersible vessel?
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Re: So-Called Bible "Contradictions" Explained! -
05-11-2012, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob4God
A lot of stupid atheists don't even understand what the Bible means when it gives three different accounts of JESUS' last words before dying on the cross.
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? - Matthew 27:46
And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. - Luke 23:46
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. - John 19:30
So which were the actual, last words of JESUS?
They all were, duh!
If JESUS is GOD and GOD can be everywhere at once, why can't He say three things at once?
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Why not? God can speak once and yet be heard twice:
Psalm 62:11 God hath spoken once; twice have I heard this; that power belongeth unto God. So why shouldn't Jesus be heard thrice? That power belongeth unto God.
1st Corinthians 15:16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
1st Corinthians 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
1st Corinthians 15:18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
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