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Default 50 shekels of silver in today's value? - 11-05-2013, 08:19 AM

I have a friend who has committed a horrible and unmentionable immoral act and I'm wondering... for his sake... how much is 50 shekels of silver is in today's value?

I'm actually not sure this even applies since this lady is clearly not a virgin. So marrying her feels like it doesn't really apply? I'm a bit confused here, because even though she's not a virgin I still suspect my friend has committed a sin and should make some sort of penance.

...any help would be much appreciated.


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Default Re: 50 shekels of silver in today's value? - 11-05-2013, 09:29 AM

A shekel is a unit of weight equal to about 11 grams, so 50 shekels is about 550 grams or 19.4 ounces.

The spot price of silver has been dropping for the last year or so, but as of yesterday it was around $21.70 per ounce. That would place 50 shekels as being worth about $420.98


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Default Re: 50 shekels of silver in today's value? - 11-05-2013, 10:14 AM

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That would place 50 shekels as being worth about $420.98
That's really steep. After all, unmarried woman that is not a virgin is practically a prostitute. You can buy services of many prostitutes with 420 dollars. At least that's what I've heard.
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Default Re: 50 shekels of silver in today's value? - 11-05-2013, 10:22 AM

Why on earth would anyone want to rape a woman who wasn't a virgin?

But since the woman's not a virgin, can we assume she's married/ widowed? If she's married, your friend has committed a serious property crime and of course should be punished in accordance with secular laws (Rom 13:1-7).

Anyway, I believe you're referring to Deuteronomy 22:28-29 -- it's always a good idea to include the passage you're referring to in your post.

If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

The value of the shekel is, as Brother WJB pointed out, variable. Our all-knowing God saw fit not to index for inflation or allow for fluctuations in commodity prices. But don't forget that marriage was part of the punishment. We may not know how much the shekel was worth, but the rapist had to support his wife for the rest of his life. He could not put her away all his days. To get an idea of the punitive nature of such a marriage, remember the words of Matthew 19:10-11.

10 His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.
11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.


I don't know how much fifty shekels was worth, but the financial and emotional cost of supporting and living with a woman you may not even like would be incalculable. It would make a man think twice before raping someone again. It would say to other rapists, "Let this be a lesson to you!"

And sometimes the rape victim wants to marry her rapist, anyway. Tamar wanted to marry Amnon when she thought he was going to rape her (2 Sam 13:13). Amnon ended up raping her anyway and after that he hated her (2 Sam 13:14-15). If he had been forced to marry her, it would have been punishment enough. Imagine being married to a woman you hated till death do you part. In the case of Tamar and Amnon, Biblical law wasn't followed, and it was Tamar who suffered.

2 Sam 13:20 So Tamar remained desolate in her brother Absalom's house.


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Default Re: 50 shekels of silver in today's value? - 11-05-2013, 12:22 PM

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That's really steep. After all, unmarried woman that is not a virgin is practically a prostitute. You can buy services of many prostitutes with 420 dollars. At least that's what I've heard.
Well it is a punishment, brother. You can't even divorce her if she commits adultery -you have to stone your own wife! Stoning your ex-wife isn't nearly as bad, I hear.

Moreover, women who get raped once are more likely to get raped again (they obviously enjoy it), making this situation highly likely to occur.


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Default Re: 50 shekels of silver in today's value? - 11-05-2013, 02:32 PM

When I was a young Christian (before being anointed as a True Christian™) I bought silver futures.
I knew I was not perfect and therefore accepted the cold, stark reality that God was going to force some females on my family to teach me humility (which I really did not need as I have always been a easy-going, humble man) upon me.
My cost have been under $3.00 an ounce or less than $60/daughter-in-law. The moral here is to plan ahead.


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That's really steep. After all, unmarried woman that is not a virgin is practically a prostitute. You can buy services of many prostitutes with 420 dollars. At least that's what I've heard.
If you are not ready to get married and pay the fine, then don't rape a virgin. Simple as that. God in all of His wisdom gave this commandment for a reason, you know.


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I have a friend who has committed a horrible and unmentionable immoral act and I'm wondering... for his sake... how much is 50 shekels of silver is in today's value?

I'm actually not sure this even applies since this lady is clearly not a virgin. So marrying her feels like it doesn't really apply? I'm a bit confused here, because even though she's not a virgin I still suspect my friend has committed a sin and should make some sort of penance.

...any help would be much appreciated.
Well I'm no expert, but in my opinion, any women who is not a virgin but not married is a "loose woman" and likely is trying to trap your friend. I would be highly cautious with a gal like that. The fact that they operate without morals has already been established, if you know what I mean.



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Well I'm no expert, but in my opinion, any women who is not a virgin but not married is a "loose woman" and likely is trying to trap your friend. I would be highly cautious with a gal like that. The fact that they operate without morals has already been established, if you know what I mean.

Amen, Sister!

That is why I have been taking my daughters to a bimonthly hymen-intactomy ever since they turned two. I always take written certificate that my property is still undamaged from the pastor who performs the operation.

That way no one can make claims that it was already damaged goods in case of rape and that way trying to avoid paying my due.

As my father always said, better safe than sorry.
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Well I'm no expert, but in my opinion, any women who is not a virgin but not married is a "loose woman" and likely is trying to trap your friend. I would be highly cautious with a gal like that. The fact that they operate without morals has already been established, if you know what I mean.

That's a good point. Of course he couldn't help himself. Makes perfect sense. Thank you. Now... my friend... will be able to sleep much more soundly.

But should he still pay? I mean... a sin has been conducted even if it wasn't his fault.


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Default Re: 50 shekels of silver in today's value? - 11-09-2013, 07:10 PM

By using this currency converter, I found out that 50 shekels is approximately $14 today.
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Default Re: 50 shekels of silver in today's value? - 11-13-2013, 12:59 AM

I will pray for Jesus to enter your heart and, while He keeps you free from sin, teach you the finer points of theomathematics, Ex-Viking.

1 shekel = 0.4 oz.
1 oz. silver = $20.70 (as of 11/12/2013)

50 silver shekels = 20 oz. silver = $414.


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Default Re: 50 shekels of silver in today's value? - 11-13-2013, 02:13 AM

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By using this currency converter, I found out that 50 shekels is approximately $14 today.
My brother, I'm afraid you have been had by the greedy jews: as is typical for them, they are selling you fake shekels; instead of the shekels that you know from the Bible, these Jews have falsified fake shekels that are practically worthless, they aren't even made from silver.


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If silver is that cheap over in the tundra of Finland, I'll fly over tonight.


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Default Re: 50 shekels of silver in today's value? - 11-13-2013, 08:03 AM

Missionary in Sweden, I'm sorry to say your "friend" now owes that girl's father $55 million.

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Default Re: 50 shekels of silver in today's value? - 11-13-2013, 08:40 AM

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A shekel is a unit of weight equal to about 11 grams, so 50 shekels is about 550 grams or 19.4 ounces.

The spot price of silver has been dropping for the last year or so, but as of yesterday it was around $21.70 per ounce. That would place 50 shekels as being worth about $420.98
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I will pray for Jesus to enter your heart and, while He keeps you free from sin, teach you the finer points of theomathematics, Ex-Viking.

1 shekel = 0.4 oz.
1 oz. silver = $20.70 (as of 11/12/2013)

50 silver shekels = 20 oz. silver = $414.
Scrounging together the meager resources of the entire internet I was able to confirm and reaffirm that a "shekel" had never been anything but a unit of weight in all places the term was used, until 1980. A clump of common silver the size of your hand will more than cover the rape fee. God did not say that we must find the most expensive silver possible. He did not specify what form the fifty shekels of silver must be in.

After all, it would be far too punitive to charge a man of modest means 50 million dollars for what could amount to a case of mistaken identity. What if the woman was adopted? She might have Shilohan features and even still be speaking their gobbledy-gook.

We should not spread misconceptions, lest rapists become entitled to vast reparations from their in-laws. This could sow discord among the brethren.

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Default Re: 50 shekels of silver in today's value? - 04-02-2016, 02:28 PM

I see this is a "Baptist" church forum but all of this stuff I see on here is old testament nonsense, as if your some kind of Jews like Moses or something. Do none of you realize we are no longer bound to the old testament as Christians? The stuff like in Leviticus about not marking your body or masturbating is stuff we're no longer bound too. The NEW TESTAMENT is a NEW COVENANT with GOD through JESUS CHRIST and it's what your supposed to follow if it's not in the NEW TESTAMENT then frankly it doesn't matter. I'm not condoning marking your body or masturbation by the way it was just an example. Read your bible because this is what it says. Also as CHRISTIANS we are heirs to the promise of Abraham by GOD we are the "Chosen ones". It has nothing to do with being Jewish by blood or a Semite by blood. Zionism has deceived Christendom, Orthodox Judaism and the Isreali Government is the SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN as told by JESUS CHRIST himself. When the Pharisees where exiled in Babylon for 1000 years they picked up the Babylonian Mystery Religion that's also taught by the mystery schools around the world. They are not Jews like Moses was a Jew they do not believe in the ten commandments or the Old Testament like you think. They believe in the Talmud ABOVE ALL which is a direct affront to Jesus Christ and God Almighty.
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I see this is a "Baptist" church forum but all of this stuff I see on here is old testament nonsense, as if your some kind of Jews like Moses or something. Do none of you realize we are no longer bound to the old testament as Christians?
Oh, really?

Then, why did Jesus say this:

Matthew 5:17-19
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Was that just for laughs? Do you have proof that He said on the April Fool's Day or something? Or is there a footnote that says that we're to obey all New Testament except Matthew 5:17-19?

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The stuff like in Leviticus about not marking your body or masturbating is stuff we're no longer bound too.
Then how come it is repeated in the New Testament?

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18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

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The NEW TESTAMENT is a NEW COVENANT with GOD through JESUS CHRIST and it's what your supposed to follow if it's not in the NEW TESTAMENT then frankly it doesn't matter.
I think I've just shown you that 1) what's in the Old Testament is also in the New Testament and 2) Jesus is very clear that we're supposed to follow all of the Bible, not just bits and pieces of it.

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Wait, I thought you said the Old Testament didn't count, so why are you citing it?

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And who told you that it did?

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Zionism has deceived Christendom, Orthodox Judaism and the Isreali Government is the SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN as told by JESUS CHRIST himself.
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When the Pharisees where exiled in Babylon for 1000 years they picked up the Babylonian Mystery Religion that's also taught by the mystery schools around the world. hey are not Jews like Moses was a Jew they do not believe in the ten commandments or the Old Testament like you think. They believe in the Talmud ABOVE ALL which is a direct affront to Jesus Christ and God Almighty.
This is very cute (albeit I cannot find support for any of that in the Holy Bible), but what the heck does it have in common with the topic of this thread -- or the earlier parts of your own post, for that matter?

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What does any of this have to do with the price of silver?

You sound like a Democrat - just like Roosevelt who confiscated gold from Americans to finance his socialist spending schemes through inflation (better known as theft). Such things are an abomination to the Lord.

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Thou shalt not have in thine house divers measures, a great and a small.

But thou shalt have a perfect and just weight, a perfect and just measure shalt thou have: that thy days may be lengthened in the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.

For all that do such things, and all that do unrighteously, are an abomination unto the Lord thy God.

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Default Re: 50 shekels of silver in today's value? - 04-04-2016, 02:47 PM

I'm a libertarian, and I can't stand leftist progressive liberals they're not even liberals Thomas Jefferson was a liberal.
I never said NOT to follow the ten commandments, I said the things you guy's are talking about on here are nonsense.
Your on this forum talking about raping virgins and selling people because it's what in the OLD TESTAMENT...I'm sure Christ would be quite happy with that.

Who told me it has nothing to do with being a blood semite? The Bible did. Go read the passages before and after as well quite clear what's being said.
Galatians 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. I was quoting New testament, not Old Testament.

Also you guy's are like Nazi's on here giving me infractions and telling me not to be rude but I'm not, you sound like the democrats.

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