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Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? -
07-20-2012, 07:11 PM
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So how many "space ships" does British Broadcasting Corporation have? I guess you believe that Dr. Who is real a doctor is space as well. You know, it's footage from BBC too.
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The BBC do not have any space ships. He went in a U2 spy plane. As for the rest of your post, it's just a waste of words
The plane he flew in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_U-2
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Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? -
07-21-2012, 09:34 AM
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As for the rest of your post, it's just a waste of words
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So in other words you don't want to think what of the stuff you are been spoon fed through TV is made in studio. It's OK, lot of you monkey-worshipers are living in constant state of denial.
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Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? -
08-14-2012, 08:12 PM
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Praise the Lord! He has shown me how to prove scientifically that the sun is no more than 500 miles overhead.
Here is the proof:
To start off with, the sun is hot enough to glow yellow, so we can use Wein's Displacement Law to determine the temperature.
Wein's Displacement Law:
Peak Wavelength in meters = displacement constant / temperature in Kelvin
Yellow light has a wavelength between 570nm and 580nm, so we'll solve for 575nm. Since we are working with nanometers rather than meters, we'll simplify the math by multiplying the displacement constant by 10^9.
575 = 2897768.5/T
575 * T = 2897768.5
T = 2897768.5/575
T = 5039.6° K (8611.6° F)
So the sun is about 5039.6° Kelvin.
Now, the average temperature of the earth is 59° F, or about 288° K. The mean temperature gradient of the troposphere is 6° K/km, so let's solve for the distance.
d = (5039.6 - 288)/6
d = 791.9 km (491.1 miles)
There you have it. The sun is roughly 491.1 miles overhead. Depending on the exact shade of yellow (whether it's closer to 570nm or 580nm), this figure could be off by as much as 5 miles. However, I don't have a spectrometer handy, and I'm willing to live with an uncertainty of ±5 miles. It's not like I'm planning to visit anytime soon -- my shoes would melt .
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Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? -
08-15-2012, 02:23 AM
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Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? -
08-20-2012, 02:31 AM
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I have heard that the sun is closer to the Earth during winter than in summer. I suspect that the opposite is true.
How would the sun know when winter is, anyway?
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The sun doesnt so much know it's winter, but causes winter. However, when its closer to a fixed region, thats the regions winter. Its when its further the the earth recieves the most direct sunlight, since the earth has about a 23.5° rotation from a vertical axis of rotation, and its the direct sunlight that makes the surface hotter, causing summer
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Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? -
08-20-2012, 02:32 AM
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The sun doesnt so much know it's winter, but causes winter. However, when its closer to a fixed region, thats the regions winter. Its when its further the the earth recieves the most direct sunlight, since the earth has about a 23.5° rotation from a vertical axis of rotation, and its the direct sunlight that makes the surface hotter, causing summer
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Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? -
08-20-2012, 05:53 AM
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The sun doesnt so much know it's winter, but causes winter. However, when its closer to a fixed region, thats the regions winter. Its when its further the the earth recieves the most direct sunlight, since the earth has about a 23.5° rotation from a vertical axis of rotation, and its the direct sunlight that makes the surface hotter, causing summer
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You honestly think that's why there are seasons?
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Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? -
08-20-2012, 05:42 PM
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You honestly think that's why there are seasons?
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Actually yes i do, and please, i respect your opinion, but i would appreciate it if you didnt laugh at me and my opinion.
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Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? -
08-20-2012, 05:47 PM
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Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? -
08-20-2012, 06:01 PM
I am new to this forum but I have a question about this sun being close or far away. If the Sun is only 500 miles away how far away is the Moon? I thought the Moon was closer than the Sun but if the Sun is only 500 miles away then the Moon must be close too. I don't know too much about no science stuff so I'm not going to say anything about all those science laws,which are mostly hooey anyway I think. I am a GOD fearing Christian and all that science junk is just trying to be smarter than GOD. But if science does show that the Sun is closer than we thought we need to see how far away the Moon is cause if it's close too then all those sattellights and space stuff might crash into it and then we would have no sattellights and that could mess with television shows that use them (they use sattellights I'm pretty sure). I don't want to miss none of my NASCAR of Church shows. Shouldpray for the LORD to save the sattellights in case the Moon is closer than the Sun?
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Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? -
08-20-2012, 06:08 PM
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Actually yes i do, and please, i respect your opinion, but i would appreciate it if you didnt laugh at me and my opinion.
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Sorry, but you should really re-read what you wrote. I read it to my employees at lunch and now I cannot get them to get back to work, they are all laughing so hard. Are you a professional comedian?
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? -
08-20-2012, 06:16 PM
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Sorry, but you should really re-read what you wrote. I read it to my employees at lunch and now I cannot get them to get back to work, they are all laughing so hard. Are you a professional comedian?
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Well im glad it made them laugh, really, people should laugh more. But i was serious, i would appreciate it if i wasnt laughed at for my beliefs. You wouldnt like it if i laughed at you because you belief the sun is around 500 miles from the earth would you?
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Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? -
08-20-2012, 06:37 PM
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...i would appreciate it if i wasnt laughed at for my beliefs...
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Grow a pair, would ya?
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... You wouldnt like it if i laughed at you because you belief the sun is around 500 miles from the earth would you?
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He wouldn't be happy about your rejection of the Word of God, but he'd also rejoice in the persecution.
Matthew 5:11 "Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake."
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Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? -
08-20-2012, 06:43 PM
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Well im glad it made them laugh, really, people should laugh more. But i was serious, i would appreciate it if i wasnt laughed at for my beliefs. You wouldnt like it if i laughed at you because you belief the sun is around 500 miles from the earth would you?
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Friend, you would not be laughing at me, you would be laughing at God.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? -
08-20-2012, 06:46 PM
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Actually yes i do, and please, i respect your opinion, but i would appreciate it if you didnt laugh at me and my opinion.
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So run us through it again. The sun is further away but at a different angle because the earth is tilted. We'd all fall off. 23 degrees is quite a steep slope.
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Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? -
08-20-2012, 07:16 PM
Friend, I'll humor you.
Place two points on a paper. There is no 'angle' between them, only a straight line. You would need three 'points' to create an angle. Even then, unless the points are moved, the distance, irrespective of the angle, remains constant.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? -
08-20-2012, 08:13 PM
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So run us through it again. The sun is further away but at a different angle because the earth is tilted. We'd all fall off. 23 degrees is quite a steep slope.
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We would fall off, drifting into space, if not for the dense core of iron at the center of the earth, that has enough gravitaional force it holds us to the surface. It helps us survive the tilt of the earths axis as well as the earths curve
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Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? -
08-20-2012, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by James Hutchins
Friend, I'll humor you.
Place two points on a paper. There is no 'angle' between them, only a straight line. You would need three 'points' to create an angle. Even then, unless the points are moved, the distance, irrespective of the angle, remains constant.
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Yes, that is very true, and the logic would apply to a two dimentional world. However, if you create a plane, or the paper, on the orbit of earth, creating the horizontal field, and project the earths axis as a line, you create a three dimensional field. That line was considered perfectly vertical until studies of the stars as they moved through the sky with our rotation and orbit that the axis is actually slanted, and since it hadnt been a modern change, it was most likely caused by an ancient astroid colliding with earth, most likely the same that could have killed off the dinosaurs in the great extinction.
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Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? -
08-20-2012, 08:20 PM
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Yes, that is very true, and the logic would apply to a two dimentional world. However, if you create a plane, or the paper, on the orbit of earth, creating the horizontal field, and project the earths axis as a line, you create a three dimensional field. That line was considered perfectly vertical until studies of the stars as they moved through the sky with our rotation and orbit that the axis is actually slanted, and since it hadnt been a modern change, it was most likely caused by an ancient astroid colliding with earth, most likely the same that could have killed off the dinosaurs in the great extinction.
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I see, just where in the Bible did you read this?
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away? -
08-20-2012, 08:31 PM
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I see, just where in the Bible did you read this?
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Ive tried to expand my knowledge beyond the bible. Specific information like this isnt mentioned in the Holy Book, but a number of sources, including calculations, imaging, and among other things, can confirm it. Im not trying to debunk the Bible or anything, but id like to think there are certain mysteries that were left to us to uncover, so we can prove our ingenuity and determination
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