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Re: Further Evidence The Holocaust is a LIE! -
02-04-2009, 10:16 PM
I dare you all to watch the film Night and Fog and then tell me the Holocaust was fake.
You are the people Jesus would be preaching against. This kind of close mindedness is what makes the world blind. How can you possibly believe this is a hoax? There are people still alive today who experienced it, or who had grandparents and parents who experienced it and died in it. You can go the places where it happened, see the gas chambers and the fingernail scratches on the walls where people desperately clawed to get out.
Jesus was born a Jew, how can you hate people of His faith?
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Re: Further Evidence The Holocaust is a LIE! -
02-04-2009, 10:29 PM
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You are the people Jesus would be preaching against.
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Re: Further Evidence The Holocaust is a LIE! -
02-06-2009, 09:32 AM
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More damned lies!
Friend, over here we use the only True Bible, the KJV (1611).
Which states:
Matthew 27:11
And Jesus stood before the governor: and the governor asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And Jesus said unto him, Thou sayest.
Hear that? THOU SAYEST. It doesn't say "Yes I am". It says "whatever dood, you've got your mind made up anyway, call me anything you want."
Clear?
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let me get this straight, are you saying that there are ONE Bible that is true? And that that bible as the TRUE Word of the Lord? The others, all the others are fake?
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Re: Further Evidence The Holocaust is a LIE! -
02-06-2009, 11:28 AM
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let me get this straight, are you saying that there are ONE Bible that is true? And that that bible as the TRUE Word of the Lord? The others, all the others are fake?
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No we are not saying, "there are ONE Bible that is true", we are saying that, "there IS ONE Bible that is true." That is because "is", not "are", is the third person present tense of the verb "to be" and thus has to be in agreement with the subject, which, in this case, is "Bible".
Just think about it: When God commanded the Bible, as a record of His Great Deeds, to be written many years ago, He gave the job to diverse men. His word was then copied and re-copied with mistakes, mistranslations and even important words like "Not" missed out.
Eventually, God decided that this could no longer continue and spoke with King James. He told James that He would inspire some of James' chosen men to write exactly what His Word was. The Book that emerged is the KJV1611. King James, appointed by God, checked everything and submitted it to God, Who saw that it was good!
There were those, inspired by the Devil, who decided to copy the Bible but changed it slightly because (to their greedy minds) there was no point just repeating the original. However, as even you agree, this then cannot be the Word of God!
So the answer to your question is, "Duh! Yes!"
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Re: Further Evidence The Holocaust is a LIE! -
02-06-2009, 11:56 AM
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let me get this straight, are you saying that there are ONE Bible that is true? And that that bible as the TRUE Word of the Lord? The others, all the others are fake?
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You might want to read the sermon I wrote on the subject HERE, entitled "Seven Easy Ways to Tell The True Bible From The False Ones."
If that's over your head (and I'm guessing it will be), then Jack Chick has a tract for you HERE. It has pictures.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Further Evidence The Holocaust is a LIE! -
02-07-2009, 07:08 PM
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No we are not saying, "there are ONE Bible that is true", we are saying that, "there IS ONE Bible that is true." That is because "is", not "are", is the third person present tense of the verb "to be" and thus has to be in agreement with the subject, which, in this case, is "Bible".
Just think about it: When God commanded the Bible, as a record of His Great Deeds, to be written many years ago, He gave the job to diverse men. His word was then copied and re-copied with mistakes, mistranslations and even important words like "Not" missed out.
Eventually, God decided that this could no longer continue and spoke with King James. He told James that He would inspire some of James' chosen men to write exactly what His Word was. The Book that emerged is the KJV1611. King James, appointed by God, checked everything and submitted it to God, Who saw that it was good!
There were those, inspired by the Devil, who decided to copy the Bible but changed it slightly because (to their greedy minds) there was no point just repeating the original. However, as even you agree, this then cannot be the Word of God!
So the answer to your question is, "Duh! Yes!"
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I'm not very good with my english, I'm sorry
Oh... And I totally agree with you, it could be very hard to know the real Word of God... In a perfect world, we all know hebrew and greek, and we could get rid of all the translations
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Re: Further Evidence The Holocaust is a LIE! -
02-07-2009, 07:26 PM
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You might want to read the sermon I wrote on the subject HERE, entitled "Seven Easy Ways to Tell The True Bible From The False Ones."
If that's over your head (and I'm guessing it will be), then Jack Chick has a tract for you HERE. It has pictures.
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1My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee; 2So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding;
3Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding;
4If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures;
5Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God.
I'm very new in here, and you are breaking one of God's laws with me. English is not my natural language, I made some mistakes that are completely normal, but there are no excuse for you to attack me. or to offend me, as you have done 2 times already....
I'll open my heart to understandment, as i hope you'll do too. No hard feelings, we are all one under god's right hand
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Re: Further Evidence The Holocaust is a LIE! -
02-08-2009, 12:02 AM
You may be a Godless foreigner, but in any event you will STOP DISRESPECTING GOD and use proper American punctuation, grammar and spelling in your posts!! There is NO excuse for not capitalizing God!!
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Further Evidence The Holocaust is a LIE! -
02-08-2009, 03:43 AM
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You may be a Godless foreigner, but in any event you will STOP DISRESPECTING GOD and use proper American punctuation, grammar and spelling in your posts!! There is NO excuse for not capitalizing God!!
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Your right. I miss the key. I'm very sorry.
And another thing, where in the Scriptures it is writen that God looks at someones country of birth? By the contrary my friend, He accepts all humans, from all countries.
And another thing, there aren't such thing as "American grammar", it is English grammar.
Deuteronomy 19; 11
11But if any man hate his neighbour, and lie in wait for him, and rise up against him, and smite him mortally that he die, and fleeth into one of these cities
Zechariah 8, 16
These are the things that ye shall do; Speak ye every man the truth to his neighbour; execute the judgment of truth and peace in your gates:
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Re: Further Evidence The Holocaust is a LIE! -
02-08-2009, 07:26 AM
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Your right. I miss the key. I'm very sorry.
And another thing, where in the Scriptures it is writen that God looks at someones country of birth? By the contrary my friend, He accepts all humans, from all countries.
And another thing, there aren't such thing as "American grammar", it is English grammar.
Deuteronomy 19; 11
11But if any man hate his neighbour, and lie in wait for him, and rise up against him, and smite him mortally that he die, and fleeth into one of these cities
Zechariah 8, 16
These are the things that ye shall do; Speak ye every man the truth to his neighbour; execute the judgment of truth and peace in your gates:
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How dare you speak that way to Pastor Ezekiel! American's are the only people who use Godly grammar, not that you would know from your obvious lack of grammar skill. Now lets see what JESUS thinks about your ridiculous name, (GodLovesUsAll):
Zephaniah 3:8 (King James Version)
"Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy."
Glory!
2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
"And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."
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Re: Further Evidence The Holocaust is a LIE! -
02-10-2009, 06:31 PM
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proverbs 2, 1-5
1My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee; 2So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding;
3Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding;
4If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures;
5Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God.
I'm very new in here, and you are breaking one of God's laws with me. English is not my natural language, I made some mistakes that are completely normal, but there are no excuse for you to attack me. or to offend me, as you have done 2 times already....
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Please show me which of God's laws has been broken.
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I'll open my heart to understandment, as i hope you'll do too. No hard feelings, we are all one under god's right hand
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Re: Further Evidence The Holocaust is a LIE! -
02-15-2009, 12:51 AM
Is it really this hard for you to believe that millions of Jews lost their lives? or are you just saying it because of your apparent hatred for the Jewish people?
Do you really think it's that hard for a government to slaughter millions of people, especially when from 1935 to 1945, the total number of people that served in the german military came close to 18 million?
Especially when the leader of German nation hated the jewish people with his whole heart. He personally wrote this in his book ''mein kampf''
Stalin also had a lot of people murdered, do you think that is fake aswell?
If you want lists of camps and amount of deaths. take a look at the following:
List of major camps with amount of deaths included
List of camps
Map of major concentration/extermination camps
List of the amount of deaths
Another list
The death count of 6 million was given to Himmler by SS-Obersturmbannfuehrer Eichmann in 1944. he estimated it to be 6 million.
As seen here and here
Obersturmbannfuehrer Hoettl later verified these numbers at the nuremberg trials.
The number given by eichmann and hoettl were later compared with the total Jewsih population before and after the war. The number matched.
Explain the numbers on survivors' arms
Explain accounts by witnesses, the liberators of the camps.
Basically, what you are saying is that it was a lie, or atleast exaggerated by the Jews to get attention. What would they need that attention for, why would they fake the death of millions?
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Re: Further Evidence The Holocaust is a LIE! -
02-15-2009, 12:53 AM
Everyone knows that joos are born liars. They love to exaggerate and they love to play the victim and they all lie and back each other up.
Plus they did kill Jesus. Everyone knows that.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Further Evidence The Holocaust is a LIE! -
02-15-2009, 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by TheRightSide
Is it really this hard for you to believe that millions of Jews lost their lives? or are you just saying it because of your apparent hatred for the Jewish people?
Do you really think it's that hard for a government to slaughter millions of people, especially when from 1935 to 1945, the total number of people that served in the german military came close to 18 million?
Especially when the leader of German nation hated the jewish people with his whole heart. He personally wrote this in his book ''mein kampf''
Stalin also had a lot of people murdered, do you think that is fake aswell?
If you want lists of camps and amount of deaths. take a look at the following:
List of major camps with amount of deaths included
List of camps
Map of major concentration/extermination camps
List of the amount of deaths
Another list
The death count of 6 million was given to Himmler by SS-Obersturmbannfuehrer Eichmann in 1944. he estimated it to be 6 million.
As seen here and here
Obersturmbannfuehrer Hoettl later verified these numbers at the nuremberg trials.
The number given by eichmann and hoettl were later compared with the total Jewsih population before and after the war. The number matched.
Explain the numbers on survivors' arms
Explain accounts by witnesses, the liberators of the camps.
Basically, what you are saying is that it was a lie, or atleast exaggerated by the Jews to get attention. What would they need that attention for, why would they fake the death of millions?
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If they really believe it didn't happen, mybe they should go to Poland and tell everyone.
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Re: Further Evidence The Holocaust is a LIE! -
02-15-2009, 01:44 AM
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If they really believe it didn't happen, mybe they should go to Poland and tell everyone.
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Very true. I'm not sure they will make it back to the US.
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Re: Further Evidence The Holocaust is a LIE! -
02-17-2009, 11:24 AM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5748523.ece
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From The Times February 17, 2009 'Jewish war victims have had enough compensation' French court says
Charles Bremner in Paris
The French State was responsible for deporting Jews during the Second World War, the top judicial authority ruled for the first time yesterday, but it dismayed families of victims by declaring that they had already been compensated.
The decision by the Council of State, the final arbiter on civil law matters, made formal a doctrine that has been accepted by successive governments since 1995.
It was advising on a case brought by Madeleine Hoffman-Glemane, 75, one of hundreds of victims who have sued recently for damages over their arrests and deportation during the Nazi occupation from 1940 to 1944.
The council called for a “solemn recognition of the responsibility of the State”. France was “responsible for damages caused by actions which did not result from the occupiers' direct orders but facilitated deportation from France of people who were victims of anti-Semitic persecution”, it said.
The ruling endorses a view that was proclaimed by the former President Jacques Chirac when he took office in 1995. Before that the crimes of the collaborationist Vichy Government had been acknowledged but they had been ascribed widely to an outlaw regime and not to the French State.
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Avi Bitton, another lawyer who represents 600 deportees and plaintiffs, said: “We are simply asking to be treated like any other citizen who is a victim of asbestos poisoning or a road accident. When you suffer damage, you should be able to seek recourse.”
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I think this put paid to the exaggerations of deaths.
Things to note from this article:
1. there are 600 people claiming compensation –
2. This number, 600, is for all of France for all of the 2nd WW.
3. Let’s say that, of these, a third can be expected to have died a natural death over those years and a third probably walked out alive – that leaves 200.
4. Of those 200, even Avi Bitton, their joo lawyer says some were, “a victim of asbestos poisoning or a road accident.”
5. So how many does that leave? 60 or 70 for the whole of France for the whole of WW2!
6. And what interests the joos? Compensation! Money!
Well, the French have had enough of this rubbish! Why am I not surprised?
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Re: Further Evidence The Holocaust is a LIE! -
03-22-2009, 09:27 AM
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The joo who made this alleged video has it protected by a password, Pedro. We can't view it.
And how did a burrito chomper such as yourself come by a secret joo movie?
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Further Evidence The Holocaust is a LIE! -
03-24-2009, 10:52 PM
I was on the fence about this subject until recently, but after reading a few historical manuscripts I feel safe in asserting that the Holocaust is a big lie. If you look at the cold hard facts as they are presented in the book Did Six Million Really Die? by Richard Verall and the other published works of historian Ernst Zundel, we come to quickly realize a few things about the Holocaust:
-It was made up by the allies to order to rationalize the use of the atomic bomb against the Japanese.
-It was used as a means to create the nation of Isreal.
-UFOs were Nazi aircraft launched from Antarctica in a plan to gain world domination.
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Re: Further Evidence The Holocaust is a LIE! -
03-25-2009, 01:11 AM
Further evidence against the Holocaust is found by simply looking at the alleged perpetrators. The German. They claim to have done it, and have done their best to make amends. But as all Brits know, never trust Johnny Foreigner. Especially the German ones. Of course, they say they did it. But would you really trust anything from a bunch of Germans? A bunch of Germans like this lot here:
BEHOLD!!!
THE BUS TO DAMNATION!
May Jesus guide this Bus off a cliff and STRAIGHT TO HELL!
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