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Default Re: Why waste time? - 04-11-2007, 09:01 PM
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Perhaps it isn't (of course it is, you just don't know it yet ) but are you willing to take chance?

Check this out:
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Pascal's Wager is incomplete. It leaves out the possibility that we are both wrong. What if there really is One and Only One True God and it happens to be the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Then your faith in Jesus would be just as useless as you think faith in all other deities or lack of faith in any deity are.
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Default Re: Why waste time? - 04-11-2007, 09:09 PM
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Pascal's Wager is incomplete. It leaves out the possibility that we are both wrong. What if there really is One and Only One True God and it happens to be the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Then your faith in Jesus would be just as useless as you think faith in all other deities or lack of faith in any deity are.
Things would get worse if the flying spaggheti monster hated disbelievers and has prepared a helllike place for them.

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Default Re: Why waste time? - 04-11-2007, 09:16 PM
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You call me "pathetic", but I'm not convinced. I don't see how it's cowardly accepting the fact that I could spend eternity being tortured. If I was cowardly, I'd be religious. I don't feel that I should be pitied, I've everything to live for.
You're not fooling anyone with that, kid, not even yourself.
You don't actually believe you're going to be tortured for eternity, and if you deny that, then you lie not only to us, but to God and to yourself.
As I said, pathetic.

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A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
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Default Re: Why waste time? - 04-11-2007, 09:30 PM
Call me pathetic. Fine. Go ahead. I'm more intelligent than you can ever wish to be.

Thou shalt not mock the Flying Spaghetti Monster! Pastafari is as logical as any other religion!
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Default Re: Why waste time? - 04-11-2007, 09:42 PM
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Call me pathetic. Fine. Go ahead. I'm more intelligent than you can ever wish to be.
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Thou shalt not mock the Flying Spaghetti Monster! Pastafari is as logical as any other religion!

I thought I'd never see the day when someone who can make a statement in one sentence, and then contradict it with the next..
Could ever consider themselves intelligent.

Oh well, the Bible tells us about your kind..
Stupid people doesn't really tend to realize how stupid they are, after all.

The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.
Proverbs 12:15

If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: But if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it.
A foolish woman is clamorous: She is simple, and knoweth nothing.
Proverbs 9:12-13
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Default Re: Why waste time? - 04-12-2007, 11:06 AM
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I may be anti christ, but I'm not pro satan.
Again with th contradictions! Are you aiming to collect a John Kerry award for flip-flopping or something?
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You call me "pathetic", but I'm not convinced. I don't see how it's cowardly accepting the fact that I could spend eternity being tortured. If I was cowardly, I'd be religious. I don't feel that I should be pitied, I've everything to live for.
And yet you're too scared to admit that Hell exists! You're so cowardly that you blind yourself to the Truth. If you're so brave, then why aren't you off drawing cartoons of Moo-Ham-Head?

O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.
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Default Re: Why waste time? - 04-12-2007, 12:53 PM
Seems like your bible is split on wisdom:

Proverbs 4:7
7Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

1 Corinthians 1:19
19For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

And on fools:

1 Corinthians 1:21
It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
1 Corinthians 3:18
If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1 Corinthians 4:10
We are fools for Christ's sake.
I'm thinking: CONTRADICTION-

Psalm 14:1
1The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.

No wonder christians seem so confused!
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Default Re: Why waste time? - 04-12-2007, 01:01 PM
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Seems like your bible is split on wisdom:

Proverbs 4:7
7Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

1 Corinthians 1:19
19For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

And on fools:

1 Corinthians 1:21
It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
1 Corinthians 3:18
If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1 Corinthians 4:10
We are fools for Christ's sake.
I'm thinking: CONTRADICTION-

Psalm 14:1
1The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.

No wonder christians seem so confused!
There is no contradiction; the truly wise know they are fools. The only contradiction is in you.


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Default Re: Why waste time? - 04-12-2007, 01:05 PM
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Seems like your bible is split on wisdom:

Proverbs 4:7
7Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

1 Corinthians 1:19
19For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

And on fools:

1 Corinthians 1:21
It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
1 Corinthians 3:18
If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1 Corinthians 4:10
We are fools for Christ's sake.
I'm thinking: CONTRADICTION-

Psalm 14:1
1The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.

No wonder christians seem so confused!
Yes, that last verse applies to you directly. You are a fool, and yet you expect to comprehend the wisdom in God's Holy Word?

These verses apply to you as well.

John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned.

Your father is satan, therefore nothing in the Holy Bible will make any sense at all. Glory!!

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Default Re: Why waste time? - 04-12-2007, 01:07 PM
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There is no contradiction; the truly wise know they are fools. The only contradiction is in you.
Err... was that meant to offend me? Ahaha, keep trying. There are plenty of contradictions in the KJV.
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Default Re: Why waste time? - 04-12-2007, 01:09 PM
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Err... was that meant to offend me? Ahaha, keep trying. There are plenty of contradictions in the KJV.
Perhaps. Why? To distract people like you.

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Default Re: Why waste time? - 04-12-2007, 01:17 PM
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Things would get worse if the flying spaggheti monster hated disbelievers and has prepared a helllike place for them.

Perhaps he has. Pastafari scripture says that those who do not worship him shall feel the wrath of his noodly appendage. R'Amen!
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Default Re: Why waste time? - 04-12-2007, 03:08 PM
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Perhaps. Why? To distract people like you.
At least I observe and think before I start worshipping a book that doesn't agree with itself.
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Default Re: Why waste time? - 04-12-2007, 03:31 PM
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At least I observe and think before I start worshipping a book that doesn't agree with itself.
The Bible doesn't contradict itself. Were ever did you get that silly idea?


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