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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-28-2010, 07:42 PM

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YOU IDIOT, the earth is a sphere, a planet, a object, in the vastness of our great galaxy.
Do you know that it is a sphere, or is it just something you believe?

And by the way, does this look like a sphere to you?




If you're going to question a real scientific fact, then at least back up your claims with scripture. You're making yourself look like a total moron.


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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-28-2010, 08:00 PM

I know it offcourse, because there is tons of proof for it.

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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-28-2010, 08:16 PM

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I know it offcourse, because there is tons of proof for it.
No there's not. If the earth is a sphere then why don't people just fall off at the bottom?

There is no Biblical logic in saying that the earth is a sphere. It's a retarded idea.


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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-28-2010, 09:01 PM

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I suggest topicstarter better stays of the drugs, or booze.



YOU IDIOT, the earth is a sphere, a planet, a object, in the vastness of our great galaxy.
Who are you? Did you do an introduction? Why are you here?

I'm assuming you're just another bored God-mocking troll. Why don't you just crawl back under your bridge.


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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-28-2010, 09:11 PM

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I know it offcourse, because there is tons of proof for it.

Believing is for the weak.
What proof do you have? Photographs? Well we're showing you photographs showing it is flat. We have the Bible on our side, we win.


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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-28-2010, 09:18 PM

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What proof do you have? Photographs? Well we're showing you photographs showing it is flat. We have the Bible on our side, we win.
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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-29-2010, 10:06 AM

your kidding, right?
all those photos are either advertisments or paintings. most of them are PHOTOSHOPPED.
taking pictues off google isnt proof the earth is flat.
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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-29-2010, 11:21 AM

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No there's not. If the earth is a sphere then why don't people just fall off at the bottom?
ITS CALLED GRAVITY DOUCHE BAG
ITS THE REASON WHY YOU FALL WHEN YOU JUMP UP
THE REASON YOU ARE NOT CURRENTLY FLOATING IN OUTER SPACE
THE REASON WE ARE ORIBTING ROUND THE SUN

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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-29-2010, 11:24 AM

It's about time you reined that anger in, kid.

Nobody is impressed with your caps rage.


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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-29-2010, 11:48 AM

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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-29-2010, 12:01 PM

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obviously you are or you wouldnt have bothered replying.
Thats an interesting thought. May I ask how you came to that conclusion? How does one replying to another, on a forum, indicate how impressed one is?

I'm interested in the train of logic. Thanks.


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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-29-2010, 12:25 PM

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ITS CALLED GRAVITY DOUCHE BAG
If you want to learn learn the truth about this so called "gravity" then I suggest that you read THIS.
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ITS THE REASON WHY YOU FALL WHEN YOU JUMP UP
No, that is because the earth disk is always moving upwards.
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THE REASON YOU ARE NOT CURRENTLY FLOATING IN OUTER SPACE
Do you mean the heavens? The reason we're not in heaven yet is because we're not dead. Heaven is however reserved for True Christians™ only, not hellbound sinners like you.
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THE REASON WE ARE ORIBTING ROUND THE SUN
We are not orbiting around the sun, you moron. It's the the exact opposite.

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Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.


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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 04-29-2010, 03:23 PM

Ok here is my challenge to the round earth thought police; you will convince me the world is round if you can furnish a picture of the earth taken from the side. You all show me pictures take of the earth from the front. Well how about the side? Since your scientists have all those satellites "orbiting" the earth this should be no problem.

Well what about it?



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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 05-09-2010, 12:22 AM

Hello guys hows it going? Allow me to make a formal introduction. Im Corbeen, and currently attend a university in England reading physics. I know the fact i live in England and study physics may not make me very popular here but this thread has interested me for some time so i thought it would be good to post.
The thing i find interesting is that in school, college, university we go to learn but often it is just taken for granted that things are right. It has facinated me reading this thread and other similar creation science threads as they provide a different viewpoint on things where the accepted model is assumed to be different. The main function of science is to question things which were previously assumed to be different and try to use theory to analyse them and provide alternative theories backed up by evidence.
I am basically saying i believe it is right to question things which are assumed fact and just wanted to provide some counter arguements to the theories Brither Alex has put forward.


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In the modern world it has become a widely spread lie that the earth is round. Of course, this is impossible. If the earth is round, then why don't people just fall off at the bottom?
The universally accepted theory between scientists is that gravity is as an attractive force between two bodies. In other words it is not simply a downward force but can be thought of as simply attractive. It acts in the direction of the line separating the two bodies. Newton's law of gravitation gives an expression for this force. The formula also implies the force works at an infinite distance.
Gravity is the force which holds you on the earth. The thing i find interesting is that gravity not only pulls you to the earth but your body pulls the earth towards you with an equal but opposite force.



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I do not see why a model like this could not exist for a round earth and larger distance between the earth and heavens.


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The following image is taken from a creation science book. According to real scientists, this is how the universe really looks like:



Here we see how the planets, the sun and the moon revolve around the flat earth:


Without being rude, which real scientists are you referring to? I would be interested in the names of these scientists and evidence showing their research, the papers they have published in credible scientific journals.

Also i do not understand the model you have provided. The orbits of venus and the moon are very close at times and are not much further from the sun than each other. Why then is Venus a huge molten fireball whereas the moon is not?


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Now, if you still don't believe these scientific facts, here are some real photographs taken at the ends of the earth:
Ok about the pictures. Brother Alex you have said yourself in this thread that surrounding the flat earth is a huge wall of ice. How come if these are indeed the end of the earth we can see no ice in any of these pictures? Your evidence does not support the theory.



This is a fantastic picture. However the fact there is no icewall means it does not support your theory. Also the fact that at the top it says 'century travel' (which if you google it is a travel company) shows that it is an advertisement.



This is a painting.




Again, no ice, and you can see, looking at the perspective of the picture, that in order to have taken the photograph the photographer must have been standing off the earth. Also why would the guy sailing the boat ride it off the edge anyway? I believe this to be genuine.




This is also a painting. I also found it on a website called 'art.com', providing further evidence that someone has in fact painted this.


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As you can see, this is a solid proof the Earth is flat. Why else would it have edges like these? ...because the earth is flat! That's why.
I ask you again Brother Alex, where is the icewall you have talked about previously in this thread? Either the icewall theory is wrong or the pictures are wrong, which?


I thank you also for reading this and would be interested in what people think about what i have said. I hope i have not been out of line and have adherred to the forum rules in posting this response. I await your responces, have a good day!

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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 05-09-2010, 12:40 AM

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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 05-09-2010, 10:50 AM

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The universally accepted theory between scientists is that gravity is as an attractive force between two bodies.
"Theory" being the operative word here. Even a little child can witness that if you hold two objects close together that they are not attracted to each other. Unless they are magnets that is. And since you claim to have a science background you are no doubt aware that there is no scientific model properly explaining gravity. Billions of tax payers dollars are wasted on a huge donut in Switzerland which might find the Higgs-boson particle which might explain gravity. In the meantime gravity is just unfounded nonsense.

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Without being rude, which real scientists are you referring to? I would be interested in the names of these scientists and evidence showing their research, the papers they have published in credible scientific journals.
We usually refer to the one and only real scientist. The one who created everything: God. He conveniently put a book together which explains it all: The KJV1611 Holy Bible. Source? God!

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Ok about the pictures. Brother Alex you have said yourself in this thread that surrounding the flat earth is a huge wall of ice. How come if these are indeed the end of the earth we can see no ice in any of these pictures? Your evidence does not support the theory.
You are mistakenly assuming Earth is static. It is not. As we invent new ways of travel, God makes changes to protect us. The border of Earth used to be water, but at some point God froze the water to better protect us against our own stupidity.

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Of course it is. They did not yet have photo cameras when it was made. You are aware of something called "history" I hope?


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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 05-12-2010, 07:04 AM

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I have noticed several debates on this particular subject here. To all you godless atheists out there, let's settle this once and for all...

Hi Alex,

I’m honored to meet you as I have never met anyone who really thinks that the earth is flat before. I wish I could shake your hand.

Let’s look at your passages one at a time and follow Pastor Billy-Rueben’s instructions in this post: http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showpost.php?p=110845&postcount=2, shall we?
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In the modern world it has become a widely spread lie that the earth is round. Of course, this is impossible. If the earth is round, then why don't people just fall off at the bottom?

The answer is simple: The Earth is not round!

Now, if we take a look at some scripture, it clearly tells us the earth is not round but flat:

Jeremiah 16:19:
O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

According to Jeremiah 16:19, the earth has ends. There is no way a spherical earth could have ends, and therefore the earth must be flat.
First of all, “the ends of the earth” is a figure of speech that us round-earthers (both today and in 1611) use all the time. Second, the word translated here as “earth” is the same word in Jeremiah 16:18 that is translated as “land.” In fact there are many, many instances of this word being translated as “land” in the book of Jeremiah in the KJV. I’ll get you a list if you want them, but I’m sure you can also get it yourself if you want it. I think that “earth” is a fine translation as long as one reads the phrase in its normal sense (as a child would) meaning “from everywhere”.
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The Book of Revelation tells a similar story:

Revelation 7:1:
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

A spherical earth cannot have corners, it is scientifically impossible. The only logical explanation is that the earth is flat. Checkmate atheists!
While I can appreciate a good argument against atheists, this is not one of them. Using your own logic, a flat, circular earth cannot have corners either. Maybe a square or a rectangle though? This is another of those figures of speech that even a child could understand.

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Isaiah 40:22:
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Ah yes, the old “circle” of the earth argument. I do appreciate this, but it is not as airtight of an argument as you make it out to be. Yes, the text says circle. And it even says it in the original Hebrew text. However, the Hebrew language in Isaiah’s day did not have a word for “sphere.” “Circle” is the next-best word and it does capture the essence of what Isaiah writing here, that God is sovereign (sitteth upon the circle of the earth), He is mighty (the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers), and He is Creator (that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in). This is a magisterial passage, but unfortunately, it does not support your position.

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First of all, “the ends of the earth” is a figure of speech that us round-earthers (both today and in 1611) use all the time. Second, the word translated here as “earth” is the same word in Jeremiah 16:18 that is translated as “land.” In fact there are many, many instances of this word being translated as “land” in the book of Jeremiah in the KJV. I’ll get you a list if you want them, but I’m sure you can also get it yourself if you want it. I think that “earth” is a fine translation as long as one reads the phrase in its normal sense (as a child would) meaning “from everywhere”.
Why are you mocking God's Word? We only follow the Authorized King James Version of 1611 here, not the satanic ones. The Holy Bible KJV1611 clearly says "earth", not "land".
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While I can appreciate a good argument against atheists, this is not one of them. Using your own logic, a flat, circular earth cannot have corners either. Maybe a square or a rectangle though? This is another of those figures of speech that even a child could understand.
These four corners refer to the locations of the four pillars of the earth. What is your point anyway?
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Ah yes, the old “circle” of the earth argument. I do appreciate this, but it is not as airtight of an argument as you make it out to be. Yes, the text says circle. And it even says it in the original Hebrew text. However, the Hebrew language in Isaiah’s day did not have a word for “sphere.” “Circle” is the next-best word and it does capture the essence of what Isaiah writing here, that God is sovereign (sitteth upon the circle of the earth), He is mighty (the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers), and He is Creator (that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in). This is a magisterial passage, but unfortunately, it does not support your position.
The Holy Bible KJV1611 (the only true version) is written in American, not Hebrew. If God meant to say "sphere" he would have done so, but it clearly says "circle" and not "sphere". Why are you trying to bear a false witness against our Lord? Are you even a Christian? Why do you hate Jesus?


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Default Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat! - 05-12-2010, 10:10 PM

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Why are you mocking God's Word? We only follow the Authorized King James Version of 1611 here, not the satanic ones. The Holy Bible KJV1611 clearly says "earth", not "land".
The KJV1611 is what I quoted from. See it for yourself. All I was saying is that the same word in Jeremiah that the KJV1611 translators rendered "earth" in verse 19 was rendered "land" in verse 18. I just meant to show that the same word has different meanings depending on the context. I do NOT dispute that it says "earth" in verse 19 nor do I dispute that this is a good translation of it. I only say that the word does have different shades of meaning depending on the context. That's all.

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These four corners refer to the locations of the four pillars of the earth. What is your point anyway?
My point is twofold. First, a circular earth cannot have corners because circles do not have corners. Second, if God meant to say "pillars," He would have said "pillars." Sound familiar?

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The Holy Bible KJV1611 (the only true version) is written in American, not Hebrew. If God meant to say "sphere" he would have done so, but it clearly says "circle" and not "sphere". Why are you trying to bear a false witness against our Lord? Are you even a Christian? Why do you hate Jesus?
It is not "written in American," as you put it. I honor the KJV1611, but it is written in the king's English, not American English. Some words in it meant something different in England 1611 than they do in today's American English. Surely you agree? This is a statement of fact, not of false witness against the Lord.

Another statement of fact is that the Hebrew from which the OT of the KJV1611 was translated (surely you don't believe that Jesus, the apostles, and the prophets ran around Israel speaking and writing in English, do you?) says "circle" because there was no word in Hebrew that meant "sphere." This is not a debate, nor is it debatable. It is demonstrable fact.

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Another statement of fact is that the Hebrew from which the OT of the KJV1611 was translated (surely you don't believe that Jesus, the apostles, and the prophets ran around Israel speaking and writing in English, do you?) says "circle" because there was no word in Hebrew that meant "sphere." This is not a debate, nor is it debatable. It is demonstrable fact.
I am afraid you are totally, completely and utterly wrong there. Nothing can be more accurate than the KJV1611 Holy Bible. The Holy Spirit guided the men of King James to write down the 100% absolute indisputable truth. All other versions of the Bible, including the so called "original" ones are incorrect. Seven easy ways to tell the True Bible from the false ones.

Also your assumption that Jesus could not speak American is wrong. There are no limits to what Jesus can do. Luke 18:27 "And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God."

Now please stop mocking God.

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