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Default Does God Slaughter Women and Children? Of Course. - 02-07-2012, 03:14 PM

I was pleased to read noted Biblical scholar, Rev. John Piper, agrees God routinely slaughters women and children without a second thought.

This kind of brutal turth is not preached at liberal and sin-filled churches. It is a truth we at LBC have a monopoly on.

We have people coming on this forum from time to time arguing that God is some easy justification for go-soft-on-me theology.

Don't count on it.

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Default Re: Does God Slaughter Women and Children? Of Course. - 02-07-2012, 03:36 PM

When I read such a stout fellow such as he say:

"So God is God! He rules and governs everything. And everything he does is just and right and good. God owes us nothing"

It makes me think that maybe, just maybe the messge of the Bible (KJV 1166) is finally filtering through

If God killed me now I would as pleased as punch to be part of his divine plan

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Default Re: Does God Slaughter Women and Children? Of Course. - 02-07-2012, 04:11 PM

The reason God so mercilessly slaughters the innocent with such flagrant abandon throughout the Old Testament and Revelation is because of His Divine Nature. You see, God can't help but wreak justice upon the world, because He is perfect. If He didn't kill the innocent bystanders along with those who disobeyed Him, He would be no better than human authorities who discriminate between evildoers and good citizens. God is superior to human authorities, and must act incomprehensibly and in ways that run counter to our intuitions about good taste and morality.

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Default Re: Does God Slaughter Women and Children? Of Course. - 02-07-2012, 04:20 PM

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When I read such a stout fellow such as he say:

"So God is God! He rules and governs everything. And everything he does is just and right and good. God owes us nothing"

It makes me think that maybe, just maybe the messge of the Bible (KJV 1166) is finally filtering through

If God killed me now I would as pleased as punch to be part of his divine plan

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If only more young men had this sort of attitude there'd be no atheists and God would be beaming.



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Default Re: Does God Slaughter Women and Children? Of Course. - 02-07-2012, 06:15 PM

When God kills children it may not always be obvious why He has done it but it is always for the best and according to His plan.

Lets imagine alternative situations.

Situation 1,

An young atheist teacher Damian Dawkins turns up to teach a class of young Christian children. Over the next few months he starts to poison their young minds with thoughts of Darwin, evolution and free thought. Because of this young Tommy, Sammy and Claire turn against God and themselves become atheists. After they die they burn in hell in everlasting torment and all because they met Damian.


Situation 2,

Baby Damian Dawkins is born but God has smited him with cancer when he was still in the womb. He dies when he is three weeks old. Years later Tommy, Sammy and Claire are taught by Paul instead who is a God fearing Christian. When they die they spend eternity by the side of Jesus.


When God kills children only He know what they would have been capable of as adults.

Job 36:5 he is mighty in strength and wisdom.

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Default Re: Does God Slaughter Women and Children? Of Course. - 02-07-2012, 06:30 PM

That gentleman has such a clear grasp on the way our Lord works that I felt it necessary to quote him here. As most of you know, many of our lazier atheist visitors do not bother to click the links we so generously add to our posts.

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It's right for God to slaughter women and children anytime he pleases. God gives life and he takes life. Everybody who dies, dies because God wills that they die.

God is taking life every day. He will take 50,000 lives today. Life is in God's hand. God decides when your last heartbeat will be, and whether it ends through cancer or a bullet wound. God governs.


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Default Re: Does God Slaughter Women and Children? Of Course. - 02-07-2012, 06:48 PM

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When God kills children it may not always be obvious why He has done it but it is always for the best and according to His plan.
Amen!

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What a Just God we serve! He doesn't have to be merciful, but He is! Why, just the other day I was sharing the story of Moses and the Midianites:

7And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males.

8And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword.

9And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods.

10And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire.

11And they took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men and of beasts.

12And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of Moab, which are by Jordan near Jericho.

13And Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and all the princes of the congregation, went forth to meet them without the camp.

14And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle.

15And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?

16Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.

17Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
Numbers 31:7-18


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Default Re: Does God Slaughter Women and Children? Of Course. - 02-07-2012, 08:57 PM

Does God slaughter children who have not been born?
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Does God slaughter children who have not been born?
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Default Re: Does God Slaughter Women and Children? Of Course. - 02-07-2012, 09:07 PM

Just seems a bit harsh..
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Default Re: Does God Slaughter Women and Children? Of Course. - 02-07-2012, 09:14 PM

God is not Father Christmass.

God will take names, sister!

Exodus 22:24 And my wrath shall wax hot, and I will kill you with the sword; and your wives shall be widows, and your children fatherless.

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Hosea 13:16 Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.

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Default Re: Does God Slaughter Women and Children? Of Course. - 02-07-2012, 09:33 PM

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Just seems a bit harsh..
So is chemotherapy, but if you want to save the person you have to kill the cancer.


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Just seems a bit harsh..
And?



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Default Re: Does God Slaughter Women and Children? Of Course. - 02-07-2012, 10:23 PM

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Just seems a bit harsh..
On what are you basing this judgment? God is the source of all moral authority, so who are you to judge Him?

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8He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?
Clearly, if God rips open pregnant women, it is a just act. Not a "harsh" act. If you disagree with God, then you are wrong.


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Default Re: Does God Slaughter Women and Children? Of Course. - 02-08-2012, 06:58 AM

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Does God slaughter children who have not been born?
Have you never heard of "miscarriage"?

Roughly 25% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage. In most cases, the women don't even know they were pregnant.

God kills ALL those babies! He knows they shouldn't live, for whatever reason.

I have no doubt He takes great pleasure in performing His duties. After all, you can't spell "slaughter" without "laughter", now can you?


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Default Re: Does God Slaughter Women and Children? Of Course. - 02-08-2012, 08:12 AM

I think it's only fair that God slaughters His fair share of women and children (and babies). They are the primary source of problems throughout history.

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Default Re: Does God Slaughter Women and Children? Of Course. - 02-08-2012, 02:38 PM

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Have you never heard of "miscarriage"?

Roughly 25% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage. In most cases, the women don't even know they were pregnant.

God kills ALL those babies! He knows they shouldn't live, for whatever reason.

I have no doubt He takes great pleasure in performing His duties. After all, you can't spell "slaughter" without "laughter", now can you?
I like your introduction of statistics into the evidence, Rev. Rodimer.

It seems so obvious there would be fewer miscarriages were it not for the joy it brings God. When we know babies are born sinners, we realize God has work to do we cannot question.


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Default Re: Does God Slaughter Women and Children? Of Course. - 02-08-2012, 05:32 PM

God indeed owes us nothing. The only reason why we exist, or why anything at all exists, is for His pleasure:

Rev. 4:11: Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Therefore, He gets to do whatever He likes, and questioning anything He does amounts to judging Him:

Rom. 9:20: Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed [it], Why hast thou made me thus?


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Default Re: Does God Slaughter Women and Children? Of Course. - 02-09-2012, 05:21 AM

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It seems that way to us, but not to Him. God is not restrained by morals. He is Holy, and does not allow morality to stand in His way. That is why He is God.
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