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Old 09-07-2014, 10:07 PM
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havent you ever noticed that all people with down syndrome, well, look a bit off? and almost all of them look reaaaaly alike and share features?
If one of us had said something like that about coloreds, you would be crying racist.
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Old 09-07-2014, 10:22 PM
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How can you ever believe that down syndrome is a lifestyle choice?
Just read this and you will understand it.
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Nice, nice, so you want to tell me you were NEVER, not even once in your lifetime, sick?
Now, if that is true, please go to a doctor. Tell him that. Get checked. And help humanity (Jesus will love you for helping people) by letting scientist study you, and find why havent you been sick. Maybe you are the answer to curing humanity of all sickness? Imagine how much of a good deed that would be in the eyes of God?! You'd be the savior of humanity from sickness!
Oh, dear. What an odd question! Of course I've been sick in my life. I've even broken my leg! I all happened, though, when I was a child, and before I was Saved™. God used to punish me for my heathen parents (who have been on their way to Hell since I can remember), and me for following my heathen parents.

Since I began to follow instead, though, I have not been sick and do not expect to be in the future! (Unless, of course, decides to make me sick only to perform a miracle later, see John 9:1-3).

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If you save lets say a child from a carcrash, you are its savior, becouse you saved it. Thats what that word means. Yes Jesus is our savior from sin. But if you saved humanity from sickness, you are its savior FROM SICKNESS.
Please read carefully becouse i did specify that in the first place.
Please read the Bible carefully, including the verse I quoted earlier for you. In that verse, God doesn't talk about eternal salvation, just about sickness (all sickness, to be exact).
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How can you ever believe that down syndrome is a lifestyle choice? havent you ever noticed that all people with down syndrome, well, look a bit off? and almost all of them look reaaaaly alike and share features? yeah, they share the features becouse they share a genetic disease, meaning that they have an extra chromosome. Do you think people who suffer from cancer just "choose so"?? no, its something they have no power over of.
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If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

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Nice, nice, so you want to tell me you were NEVER, not even once in your lifetime, sick?
Sickness is caused by sin. And the context is right there in Deuteronomy. God's judgement was upon the
  1. Hittites
  2. Girgashites
  3. Amorites
  4. Canaanites
  5. Perizzites
  6. Hivites
  7. Jebusites
all of whom were vile brutes deserving only of death. Their wives were vile, all their children vere vile and don't even mention the babies: repugnant filth to the last toenail. God's love is perfect and He knew they all needed to be chopped up alive. Our love, or at least the love of the Israelites for God was imperfect and they needed to be told just how much real Love God had for them. God did just that, explaining His Perfect Judgement and the reward for complying. From the historical record:
DEUTERONOMY 7
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When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou;
2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:
3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.
4 For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.
5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire.
6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:
8 But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.
9 Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;
10 And repayeth them that hate him to their face, to destroy them: he will not be slack to him that hateth him, he will repay him to his face.
11 Thou shalt therefore keep the commandments, and the statutes, and the judgments, which I command thee this day, to do them.
KJV .. look up
Part of that reward is freedom from sickness. Christians participate in God's Perfect Love to an even greater extent. And the reward is greater. Not only are we set free from sin altogether (and therefore from sickness) but we are able to heal others. Jesus explains:
MARK 16
17a
And these signs shall follow them that believe;
18b ..they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
KJV .. look up . context
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Now, if that is true, please go to a doctor. Tell him that. Get checked. And help humanity (Jesus will love you for helping people) by letting scientist study you, and find why havent you been sick. Maybe you are the answer to curing humanity of all sickness?
God has already explained why people get sick. He has also explained how the choices resulting in ill health or disease or trisomy disoprders (and any other euphemism you dream up to describe the wages of sin) are often made by parents or grandparents or great-grandparents even back to the tenth generation. They have made lifestyle choices—orgiastic idol rites for example or burning incense the wrong way—with no thought of the castrophe thereby ordered for their progeny. God has explained the consequences. They are without excuse.

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