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Default On Drinking - 10-21-2008, 12:10 AM

Scripture contains many warnings regarding the drinking of alcohol (Leviticus 10:9; Numbers 6:3; Deuteronomy 29:6; Judges 13:4,7,14; 1 Samuel 1:15; Proverbs 20:1; 31:4,6; Isaiah 5:11,22; 24:9; 28:7; 29:9; 56:12; Micah 2:11; Luke 1:15). However, Scripture does not necessarily forbid a Christian from drinking beer, wine, or any other drink containing alcohol. In fact, some Scriptures discuss alcohol in positive terms. Ecclesiastes 9:7 instructs “drink wine with a merry heart.” Psalm 104:14-15 states that God gives wine “that makes glad the heart of men.” Amos 9:14 discusses drinking wine from your own vineyard as a sign of God’s blessing. Isaiah 55:11 encourages “yes, come buy wine and milk…”

What God commands Christians regarding alcohol is to avoid drunkenness (Ephesians 5:18). The Bible condemns drunkenness and its effects (Proverbs 23:29-35). Christians are also commanded to not allow their bodies to be “mastered” by anything (1 Corinthians 6:12; 2 Peter 2:19). Drinking alcohol in excess is undeniably addictive. Scripture also forbids a Christian from doing anything that might offend other Christians or might encourage them to sin against their conscience (1 Corinthians 8:9-13). In light of these principles, it would be extremely difficult for any Christian to say he is drinking alcohol to the glory of God (1 Corinthians 10:31).

Jesus changed water into wine. It even seems that Jesus drank wine on occasion (John 2:1-11; Matthew 26:29). In New Testament times, the water was not very clean. Without modern sanitation efforts, the water was often filled with bacteria, viruses, and all kinds of contaminants. The same is true in many third-world countries today. As a result, people often drank wine (or grape juice) because it was far less likely to be contaminated. In 1 Timothy 5:23, Paul was instructing Timothy to stop drinking the water (which was probably causing his stomach problems) and instead drink wine. In that day, wine was fermented (containing alcohol), but necessarily not to the degree it is today. It is incorrect to say that it was grape juice, but it is also incorrect to say that it was the same thing as the wine commonly used today. Again, Scripture does not necessarily forbid Christians from drinking beer, wine, or any other drink containing alcohol. Alcohol is not, in and of itself, tainted by sin. It is, rather, drunkenness and addiction to alcohol that a Christian must absolutely refrain from (Ephesians 5:18; 1 Corinthians 6:12).

Alcohol, consumed in small quantities, is neither harmful or addictive. In fact, some doctors advocate drinking small amounts of red wine for its health benefits, especially for the heart. Consumption of small quantities of alcohol is a matter of Christian freedom. Drunkenness and addiction are sin. However, due to the Biblical concerns regarding alcohol and its effects, due to the easy temptation to over-consumption of alcohol, and due to the possibility of causing offense and/or stumbling of others – it is usually best for a Christian to abstain entirely from drinking alcohol, unless of course you are attending a True Christian™ barbecue or taking communion.

On a final note, I'd like to point out that one of the reasons we broke with the Southern Baptist Convention years ago was over their blind insistence that God forbids all consumption of alcohol. They are apostates and will burn in hell for eternity, right along side the papists and joos, praise Jesus.


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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: On Drinking - 10-21-2008, 12:22 AM

I'll raise a glass to that Pastor! As you point out, moderation in all things. Even our zeal has sometimes to be moderated to ensure that we treat the Unsaved Trash as the jewel on our cushion (or not.)

Why, I have heard of preachers whose power, dogmatism and fervor is so great that they can turn the faithful from God. How can this be good?

I think the message here is:
Ph'p:4:4: Rejoice in the Lord alway: and again I say, Rejoice.
Ph'p:4:5: Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.


and what are we at Landover if not moderate?





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Default Re: On Drinking - 10-21-2008, 12:36 AM

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and what are we at Landover if not moderate?
There are a couple of things that even I'm not moderate about.


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Default Re: On Drinking - 10-22-2008, 05:21 AM

This is a powerful sermon, Pastor. I don't know anything about drinking, since I'm under legal age and all, but I sure enjoy reading what you have to say.
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Default Re: On Drinking - 10-22-2008, 05:39 AM

Nothing gets me more in the hunting mood than some good three or four bottles of wine. My, oh my, how I wish I could try some of Freehold's finest! Goes terrific with moose, I reckon.


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Default Re: On Drinking - 10-22-2008, 05:46 AM

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Nothing gets me more in the hunting mood than some good three or four bottles of wine. My, oh my, how I wish I could try some of Freehold's finest! Goes terrific with moose, I reckon.
My great-uncle makes wine of the homemade variety. He grows his own fruit and everything. Last summer my grandfather, father, and I went to his house to see if we could arrange to move an old vehicle for work on my father's 1950 Ford (Any men, feel free to PM me about it. I can post pictures). My great-uncle brought out a bottle of wine and my grandfather took a drink, then passed it to my father. My father handed it to me and I, being under the legal drinking age, told him "No thank you". He said "I wasn't offering you a drink; you're not 21 yet. Put that behind the seat of the truck." I'll never forget that memory.
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Default Re: On Drinking - 10-23-2008, 11:20 PM

Praise Jesus that we've broken off with those apostate "churches" that presume to add new laws to the Bible. I've heard some cafeteria Christians assert that Our Lord turned wine into grape juice at the wedding — but that the rest of the Bible is to be read literally. I guess that only the parts of Scripture that they like have their literal meaning.


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Default Re: On Drinking - 10-30-2008, 03:13 PM

Does Jesus have an opinion on malt liquor? Is a quantity of 40 fluid ounces too much?
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Default Re: On Drinking - 10-30-2008, 07:41 PM

I'd say it depends on the strength. As I am unfamiliar with malt liquor, I can't tell you how much is too much, but I'd go with the "drink but don't get drunk" rule, just to be safe.
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