[Ezekiel Bathfire]

I think that no self-respecting scientist or archaeologist will deny that the earth was created in 4004BC, i.e. some 6,000 years ago. So let us move on to a remarkable discovery of items from 6,00 years ago and 5,500 years ago, that proves Genesis is an accurate and scientific version of creation.

Ge:2:10: And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
Ge:2:11: The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;
Ge:2:12: And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.
Ge:2:13: And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
Ge:2:14: And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.

This leads us directly to somewhere between Najaf and Kufa in Iraq.

Now we consider:

Ge:4:16: And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

And who were there people after whom the land was named? The Nod – and what does that mean? Let me educate you: "Nod" (נוד) is the Hebrew root of the verb "to wander" (לנדוד). So there the whole family was, wandering about until they found Armenia.

Why Armenia? Well, it is right next door to Mount Ararat where the Ark landed. So it is a fitting place. And I should imagine that it has regular public transport to Judah.

Thus we see the truth of The Garden of Eden, the Fall of Man, Cain’s being cursed and Adam and Eve following their son to make sure that he didn’t get into any more trouble.

Once they reached Armenia, they made wine. Once they established a profitable business selling it to the natives (i.e. their own family) Eve (or one of her daughters) demanded that her husband invent shoes so she could have a collection of them.

Anyhow, here’s the stories that prove the Bible true.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12158341

'Oldest known wine-making facility' found in Armenia

The world's earliest known wine-making facility has been discovered in Armenia, archaeologists say. A wine press and fermentation jars from about 6,000 years ago were found in a cave in the south Caucasus country. The archaeologists believe the wine makers pressed the grapes with their feet

Co-director of the excavation Gregory Areshian, of the University of California, Los Angeles, said it was the earliest example of complete wine production.

The facility was uncovered in the mountains of south-east Armenia. The same area was the site of the discovery of the oldest known leather shoe, dated to about 5,500 years ago.

Inside the cave, the international team of archaeologists found a shallow basin, measuring about 1m (3ft) across, that was positioned to drain into a deep vat. The basin could have served as a wine press where people stomped the grapes with their feet, Mr Areshian said.

The team also found grape seeds, the remains of pressed grapes and dozens of dried vines. The seeds were from the same type of grapes - Vitis vinifera vinifera - still used to make wine today.

The wine-making facility was surrounded by graves and the team says the wine may have been intended for ceremonial use.

Mr Areshian said that already-know evidence of wine drinking pre-dates the Armenian facility.

"The evidence argues convincingly for a wine-making facility," said Patrick McGovern, scientific director of the Biomolecular Archaeology Laboratory at the University of Pennsylvania Museum in Philadelphia, who was not part of the research team, Associated Press news agency reported.

Oldest leather shoe' discovered http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10281908

The oldest example of a leather shoe has been discovered by archaeologists in a cave in Armenia.

At 5,500 years old, the well preserved cow-hide shoe pre-dates Stonehenge by 400 years and the Pyramids of Giza by 1,000 years.

It was made of a single piece of leather and was shaped to fit the wearer's foot, the researchers say.

The authors are unsure whether it was worn by a man or a woman. The shoe is relatively small, corresponding to a UK women's size 5 (European size 38; US size 7 women), but it could have been worn by a man of that period.

It was discovered at the Areni-1 cave in the Vayotz Dzor province of Armenia, which borders on Turkey and Iran.

The archaeologists put the shoe's remarkable preservation down to the stable, cool and dry conditions in the cave and the fact that the floor of the cave was covered by a thick layer of sheep dung.

This layer of excrement acted as a solid seal, preserving it over the millennia.

"We thought initially that the shoe and other objects were about 600-700 years old because they were in such good condition," said co-author Dr Ron Pinhasi from University College Cork in Ireland.

"It was only when the material was dated by the two radiocarbon laboratories in Oxford and in California that we realised that the shoe was older by a few hundred years than the shoes worn by Oetzi the Iceman."

Other well preserved objects were also found in the cave, including large containers, many of which held wheat and barley, apricots and other edible plants.

Sandals made from plant fibres found at the Arnold Research Cave in Missouri, US, pre-date the shoes from Areni by some 2,000-2,500 years.

[Devine Love]

Thank you for posting proof of this but it is amazing to me that people need something like this. It says in The Bible for crying out loud! Is the word of God himself not good enough? God said he created Adam and Eve and put them in the Garden of Eden. We dont need science to prove God right. We already know. Thanks for the information though it should quiet a lot of atheists.

[Creatsmash]

Actually there are quite a few scientists who assert that the Earth is billions of years old.

Referring to the individual who posted before me you are right that you don't need Science to prove god right.

There is a great Wall of China between Science and faith, go ask Webster.

Cheers,

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Originally Posted by Creatsmash

Actually there are quite a few scientists who assert that the Earth is billions of years old.
Cheers,

Meh! Who'd believe a scientist? Always chopping and changing their so called "theories". God's Word is true and eternal