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Re: Are dinosaurs a government hoax? -
11-30-2008, 03:05 AM
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Great thread. I found you from google with human footprints and dinosaurs.
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One post and yet having an opinion on Jesus His favorite forum.
Why don't you move over to the ' Introduction forum' and introduce yourself properly?
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Do you also hate the idea of having a towelhead nigra in the White House?
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12-01-2008, 09:33 PM
Speaking of dinosaurs.......... I found this posted on here somewhere ...... but thought better of letting Brother WO see it.
p/s: The creator of it was heavily infracted.
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12-07-2008, 10:49 PM
I am not sure where you all are coming from, as I am new here, but are there people who really believe that dinosaurs never existed? Who was Behemoth and Leviathon?
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12-07-2008, 11:01 PM
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I am not sure where you all are coming from, as I am new here, but are there people who really believe that dinosaurs never existed? Who was Behemoth and Leviathon?
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Friend, there are crazy people out there who believe all manner of lies, superstitions and imbecilities. We get all kinds here, but the one thing they have in common in that Jesus has guided them to His favorite forum to get Saved©.
Thank God I'm a True Christian™.
Why not make a thread of your own in the "introductions" section and tell us about yourself.
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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: Are dinosaurs a government hoax? -
12-07-2008, 11:18 PM
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Friend, there are crazy people out there who believe all manner of lies, superstitions and imbecilities. We get all kinds here, but the one thing they have in common in that Jesus has guided them to His favorite forum to get Saved©.
Thank God I'm a True Christian™.
Why not make a thread of your own in the "introductions" section and tell us about yourself.
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I was in the introduction forum.
That is where I got the gracious welcome of being labelled, "Unsaved Trash".
I grew up in a Baptist Church and I never heard that comment there.
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Re: Are dinosaurs a government hoax? -
12-07-2008, 11:25 PM
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I was in the introduction forum.
That is where I got the gracious welcome of being labelled, "Unsaved Trash".
I grew up in a Baptist Church and I never heard that comment there.
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Friend, as I said before, we get all manner of scum wandering into our Godly forum. We're here to uplift Christ's teachings, and because we are True Christians™, we attract more than our share of sodomites, God-mockers, witches, and other assorted perverts to our forum. We have to be very careful who we accept as a member, for the Bible tells us to keep separate from.... those people.
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"Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds" -- 2 John 1:9-11
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Re: Are dinosaurs a government hoax? -
12-07-2008, 11:41 PM
Romans 8:13 Fro if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die; but if ye live through the Spirit ye do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
I have been fallen away and not doing well at mortifying the deeds of the flesh. I can easily drink too much for the purpose of escaping the reality of my existance. Yet I do have much to be thankful for. As do most of Americans.
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Re: Are dinosaurs a government hoax? -
12-07-2008, 11:46 PM
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Romans 8:13 Fro if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die; but if ye live through the Spirit ye do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
I have been fallen away and not doing well at mortifying the deeds of the flesh. I can easily drink too much for the purpose of escaping the reality of my existance. Yet I do have much to be thankful for. As do most of Americans.
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First, learn proper grammar. Your grammar and spelling are appalling. Next, learn some scripture. It seems that you are against drinking. Scripture does not forbid a Christian from drinking beer, wine, or any other drink containing alcohol. In fact, some Scriptures discuss alcohol in positive terms. Ecclesiastes 9:7 instructs “drink wine with a merry heart.” Psalm 104:14-15 states that God gives wine “that makes glad the heart of men.” Amos 9:14 discusses drinking wine from your own vineyard as a sign of God’s blessing. Isaiah 55:11 encourages “yes, come buy wine and milk…” Are you saying that drinking is wrong?
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Re: Are dinosaurs a government hoax? -
12-08-2008, 12:47 AM
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First, learn proper grammar. Your grammar and spelling are appalling. Next, learn some scripture. It seems that you are against drinking. Scripture does not forbid a Christian from drinking beer, wine, or any other drink containing alcohol. In fact, some Scriptures discuss alcohol in positive terms. Ecclesiastes 9:7 instructs “drink wine with a merry heart.” Psalm 104:14-15 states that God gives wine “that makes glad the heart of men.” Amos 9:14 discusses drinking wine from your own vineyard as a sign of God’s blessing. Isaiah 55:11 encourages “yes, come buy wine and milk…” Are you saying that drinking is wrong?
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Drunkenness is sin. How about Pot?
I will go to university to communicate properly with those who are sticklers for proper grammer, like my English teachers. Oh, I forgot... I don't really care that much.
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12-08-2008, 12:49 AM
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Drunkenness is sin. How about Pot?
I will go to university to communicate properly with those who are sticklers for proper grammer, like my English teachers. Oh, I forgot... I don't really care that much.
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How old are you boy? Is it the drugs that make you not care?
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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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12-08-2008, 12:51 AM
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Drunkenness is sin. How about Pot?
I will go to university to communicate properly with those who are sticklers for proper grammer, like my English teachers. Oh, I forgot... I don't really care that much.
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I didn't say that drunkenness wasn't a sin. The Bible says that drinking isn't a sin and I agreed. Marijuana is a hippy drug. People think that "if God made it, we should smoke it". You don't see me going around smoking pot do you? By that logic, smoking poison ivy is okay too. The only thing that I want altering my mind is Jesus.
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12-08-2008, 12:54 AM
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How old are you boy? Is it the drugs that make you not care?
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I was in the Marine Corps during the Vietnam War. That is part of what makes me not care 'grammer', especially when I see the level of disrespect in the American 'culture' today.
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12-08-2008, 12:57 AM
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I was in the Marine Corps during the Vietnam War. That is part of what makes me not care 'grammer', especially when I see the level of disrespect in the American 'culture' today.
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Disrespect? What do you mean? I don't see disrespect. I see down-right sin. "Disrespectful" is a deceitful word best replaced by "hell-bound".
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Re: Are dinosaurs a government hoax? -
12-08-2008, 01:03 AM
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I was in the Marine Corps during the Vietnam War. That is part of what makes me not care 'grammer', especially when I see the level of disrespect in the American 'culture' today.
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I asked you a question. How old are you?
By the way, posting with proper American spelling, punctuation and grammar is a basic expectation of God.
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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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12-08-2008, 04:35 AM
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Drunkenness is sin. How about Pot?
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The reefer is illegal in Freehold, just like everywhere else. It's not permitted. If you have any, you should flush it before you get busted.
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12-08-2008, 06:02 AM
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I was in the Marine Corps during the Vietnam War. That is part of what makes me not care 'grammer', especially when I see the level of disrespect in the American 'culture' today.
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Mr. Axe, we are on an online forum.
The only way we can know you -- the only impression we get -- is how you present yourself in your writing.
Taking the time to write coherent sentences with good grammAr and using a spell check encourages us to take you seriously.
Ranting like a teenage schizophrenic whose lithium prescription ran out last month encourages us to ignore you as a lunatic or a retarded.
Now that we've straightened that out, I'd like to "axe" you a question: Would you tell us how you met Jesus, and who you think He is? I'm interested to hear the insights of a Marine veteran!
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12-08-2008, 05:44 PM
If it's OK I would like to answer the original question as to whether dinosaurs are a government plot. Dinosaurs did exist. Early humans hunted them 4000 to 5000 years ago. I know this is true because sister Sarah debated the pants off a liebrul college professor and produced undeniable photographic evidence. She shut that God hating egghead up real quick.
Clearly, dinosaurs and humans coexisted until God killed them off.
If that is not enough proof the Bible also confirms this beyony a shadow of a doubt.
15 ¶ Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
16 Lo now, his strength [is] in his loins, and his force [is] in the navel of his belly.
17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
18 His bones [are as] strong pieces of brass; his bones [are] like bars of iron.
19 He [is] the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his
sword to approach [unto him].
20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
22 The shady trees cover him [with] their shadow; the willows of the brook
compass him about.
23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, [and] hasteth not: he trusteth that he
can draw up Jordan into his mouth.
24 He taketh it with his eyes: [his] nose pierceth through snares. The entire description given in these verses fit certain types of dinosaurs very well. But we're going to zero in on one particular verse. It's in verse 17 it says, "He moveth his tail like a cedar:". This verse alone should be enough to put the whole issue to rest as to whether or not God is describing a dinosaur to Job in this verse. Keep in mind, God is talking to Job about a living animal, that Job is familiar with. What land creatures do we know of today that have tails the size of a cedar tree? Before that question can be answered, it must first be determined how big a cedar tree is. We obtained information on this from two different sources. First, we looked at what the Bible had to say about cedar trees to see if it would give us any clues as to how big the authors of the Bible thought they were. Second, I contacted the Liebrul university of Arizona and asked them. The results of both inquires appear below.
How big does the Bible say cedar trees are? Psalms 92:12 The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree: he shall grow like a cedar in Lebanon(would this verse make much sense if it were referring to a small or medium sized tree?)
Isaiah 2:13 And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, [that are] high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan,
Isaiah 37:24 By thy servants hast thou reproached the Lord, and hast said, By the multitude of my chariots am I come up to the height of the mountains, to the sides of Lebanon; and I will cut down the tall cedars…
Ezekiel 17:22 Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will also take of the highest branch of the high cedar, and will set [it]; I will crop off from the top of his young twigs a tender one, and will plant [it] upon an high mountain and eminent:
Ezekiel 31:3 Behold, the Assyrian [was] a cedar in Lebanon with fair branches, and with a shadowing shroud, and of an high stature; and his top was among the thick boughs.
Amos 2:9 Yet destroyed I the Amorite before them, whose height [was] like the height of the cedars, and he [was] strong as the oaks; yet I destroyed his fruit from above, and his roots from beneath.
There is no question that God the author of the Bible considered cedar trees to be quite large. Some Christians who've tried to compromise with evolutionists have claimed that the verses describing Behemoth are describing a crocodile, hippopotamus or elephant. But those creatures don't have tails the size of a cedar tree. The only creatures known to us today that had tails as big as a cedar tree were the largest of the known dinosaurs.
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Re: Are dinosaurs a government hoax? -
12-08-2008, 07:41 PM
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I was in the Marine Corps during the Vietnam War. That is part of what makes me not care 'grammer', especially when I see the level of disrespect in the American 'culture' today.
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I might believe your grandfather was in Nam but not you.
You spell like you're in middle school.
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01-08-2009, 11:37 AM
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Lets face it friends. The government would love for us to disbelieve God and creation and buy into the whole evolution and coincidence of the big bang theory.
If in fact there was any kind of bang it was when God spoke.
I think dinosaur bones were manufactured in labs and secretly buried all over the world so government scientists could be dispatched to "find" them and try to fool the world into believing this foul pack of lies.
Museums displaying these "false gods" of science should be burned to the ground.
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Dinosaurs cant exist in earths gravity:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1989265/posts
Dinosaur fossils are fake:
http://www.ocii.com/~dpwozney/dinosaur.htm
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01-08-2009, 05:18 PM
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The math leading to the conjecture on that site does not seem to hold water:
Given
1. A muscle strength of 4 kgf/cm2 cross section of muscle (as per the article)
2. An elephant can stand on one leg (see Google images)
3 That the heaviest dinosaur was 70,000lb (as per the article)
Let us assume that all dinosaurs did push ups on one leg: one leg therefore must bear the whole 70,000lb
70,000lb = 31,750Kg
31,750 (weight) / 4 (muscle strength) would indicate a 7,938 cm^2 cross section, or a diameter of (2 root (7938/pi)) = 100.5cm, or about 40 inches, which is surprisingly small for such a creature.
Obviously, we can assume a 50% greater diameter for designed by God for safety reasons, and still it is proportional.
Granted, part of the diameter will be down to central bone but as this is at the rough center, the additional diameter will be negligible.
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