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Default Do babies go to heaven or hell ? - 09-17-2007, 08:20 PM

Is it true that babies automatically go to heaven ? many people say that they do, as well as in theology books i've read, but I still haven't seen strong bibilical proof.
Can anyone explain to me what happens to aborted babies and children that die before they can choose to accept or reject the gospel ?
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Default Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ? - 09-17-2007, 08:23 PM

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Is it true that babies automatically go to heaven ? many people say that they do, as well as in theology books i've read, but I still haven't seen strong bibilical proof.
Can anyone explain to me what happens to aborted babies and children that die before they can choose to accept or reject the gospel ?

They go to hell friend. Since they weren't able to tell Jesus how much they love Him since these little babies can't speak Jesus, sadly, has to toss their sinning hides into hell. Remember friend that the nature of humanity is utter depravity so the fetuses and babies deserve no sympathy from you.



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Default Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ? - 09-17-2007, 09:24 PM

Unfortunately they burn in Hell.
Succumbing to the utter Glory of Christ is the definition of a True Christian™ and since babies are unable to pray or tithe I would imagine their little souls are torn asunder.

That is unless the baby is borne of a True Christian™ couple who tithes appropriately and has the means to contribute an third tithe on the babies behalf BEFORE the baby is taken from this world.
Then the small soul may be recycled into a proper, white baby that has enough fortitude not to die so early as to be Unsaved.
All aborted babies are sent to the darkest pits of Hell where their skulls serve as cobblestones in the fiery streets.

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Default Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ? - 09-17-2007, 09:43 PM

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Can anyone explain to me what happens to aborted babies and children that die before they can choose to accept or reject the gospel ?
Aborted babies would have gone to hell if they had been born healthy, lived to be 200, and thought they had been a good "christian" their entire lives.

WHY???

Because no True Christian ™ would have an abortion.

According to Sickular PRO-CHOICE web site:

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Most women getting abortions (83%) are unmarried; 67% have never married, and 16% are separated, divorced, or widowed.
Those children that were aborted were bastards anyway. They aren't allowed in Church, so therefore they can't get to know God, so therefore, they go to hell.

Deuteronomy 23:2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

All abortion does is save a hellbound person (baby) from living their life of depravity. It doesn't prevent them from going to hell.

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Default Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ? - 09-17-2007, 09:53 PM

Dear friend:

Sadly, they go to hell. Belief is necessary for salvation:

John 3:18: He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Acts 16:30-31: And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

No belief, no salvation.

Also, contrary to popular (secular) belief, babies are not innocent:

Psalm 51:5: Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Psalm 58:3: The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

If anyone tells you that babies who die before reaching an "age of accountability" are automatically saved, ask them to show you that age of accountability in the King James Bible.


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Default Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ? - 09-17-2007, 10:01 PM

You really think Jesus would want these terrible abominations hollering, crying, pooping and puking in Heaven?
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They go down into the Fiery Pits of Hell where they belong.

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Default Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ? - 09-17-2007, 10:48 PM

Jesus leaves absolutely no hope for dead babies, abortions, miscarriages, zygotes or whatever they are called. Jesus loves them all, but he'll be forced to sentence them to eternal torture - unless they are baptized.

It's not enough to be born - you need to be born again:

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
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John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

After all, Hell is paved with the skulls of unbaptized babies.


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Default Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ? - 09-18-2007, 07:34 PM

But do you people really think that God will actually hold them accountable for their inherited sin ? Everyone will be judged according to what he/she has done, but babies haven't done any8=-thing.=
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Default Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ? - 09-18-2007, 07:42 PM

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But do you people really think that God will actually hold them accountable for their inherited sin ? Everyone will be judged according to what he/she has done, but babies haven't done any8=-thing.=
Have you ever read the Bible the way it is actually written, or do you insist on believing blindly what false Christian churches have taught you?



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1 Timothy 5: 16 If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed ...

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Default Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ? - 09-18-2007, 07:42 PM

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But do you people really think that God will actually hold them accountable for their inherited sin ? Everyone will be judged according to what he/she has done, but babies haven't done any8=-thing.=
Did you just read this ENTIRE THREAD?

OF COURSE BABIES INHERIT SIN!

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But do you people really think that God will actually hold them accountable for their inherited sin ? Everyone will be judged according to what he/she has done, but babies haven't done any8=-thing.=
Do you believe in what the bible (KJV1611) says, or do you believe whatever it is that you want to believe?

Exodus 34:7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.


God has a tendency to punish children for their parents mistakes.

Look at Noah cursing Canaan for what Ham did.

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Everyone will be judged according to what he/she has done
WRONG! Instead of sitting around smoking ganja and "philosophizing", why don't you try reading the Bible for a change?

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Default Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ? - 09-18-2007, 09:48 PM

Fine. You can always revert to the tried and true namby pamby verse that Liberals and wishy washy pseudo Christians use to defend being wimps for Jesus.

John 3:16-For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

See? Believe in Jesus and you go to Heaven, don't believe in Jesus and you burn in Hell forever.
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Default Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ? - 09-19-2007, 02:52 AM

Here is another thought. Since God is all knowing and created us, then he would know if that baby would grow up to serve him or reject him. So that is about 90% of them doomed for hell.



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Here is another thought. Since God is all knowing and created us, then he would know if that baby would grow up to serve him or reject him. So that is about 90% of them doomed for hell.
Yes, that's about right, and that's a GODLY high percentage. It's the way GOD decided in the beginning things were going to be. It's not our place to question, but to follow His Holy Word in the Bible as it is actually written.

We can't read a verse of scripture, be shocked at what it says and decide we don't like things that way. We can't simply decide, well God couldn't have meant it that way, no, instead He must have meant this! This is what false-christian churches do, they twist the scripture to claim that God must have meant something else.

But it doesn't work that way with God. We either obey or we disobey, end of story.

Therefore according to the law of percentages, most go to hell. And yes, I suppose God must know this in advance.

Now this sounds cruel, people think a loving GOD could never be so heartless. But they haven't really read what the Bible says. Things are the way GOD has decided, not the way we want them to be.



1st Timothy 2: 9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1st Timothy 2: 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works ...


1 Timothy 5: 16 If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed ...

Proverbs 31: 26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness ...
Proverbs 31: 27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness ...
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Default Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ? - 09-19-2007, 05:50 AM

If anyone doubts that they deserve to burn, check out THIS new secular study. Turns out the little tykes' brains are abuzz with thoughts of murder, blasphemy, and homosexuality—EVEN WHILE THEY'RE SLEEPING!


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Default Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ? - 09-19-2007, 06:00 AM

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Default Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ? - 09-19-2007, 06:02 AM

Well, we baptize babies to get them a shot at heaven...And we DON'T JUDGE where other babies have gone...


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Between people of different faiths, or indeed even between people of the same faith, the term omnipotent has been used to connote a number of different positions.
What does YOUR cult mean by the word?

I know what Jesus means by it....

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Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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Default Re: Do babies go to heaven or hell ? - 09-19-2007, 06:09 AM

http://www.bible.ca/ef/topical-were-...is-article.htm



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