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12-17-2014, 01:36 AM
Give me JUST 10 reasons that will make me beleive god exists i mean, what people bring in science to this website, you say its not reliable because it was in a book made by man. Well THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN BY MAN!
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Give me JUST 10 reasons that will make me beleive god exists i mean, blah blah blah
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Why 10? Wouldn't 1 reason be enough?
But you seem to have forgotten that you are the one making a claim when you claim God does not exist. It is the burden of the person making a claim to provide evidence to support that claim. Otherwise nobody is under any compulsion or obligation to take the claim seriously.
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Well THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN BY MEN INSPIRED BY GOD!
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Fixed that for you.
2 Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2 Pet 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
This presents a problem for you because if God didn't exist, the Bible wouldn't exist; for no one would have inspired the authors to write it. If God didn't exist, He could not have preserved His Word over the millennia, just as He promised.
Ps 12:6-7 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
If God did not exist, He could not have prophesied what He was going to do and then fulfil all those prophecies. This one from Isaiah always makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
Is 53:2b He hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
800 years before Jesus walked the earth Isaiah predicted that the Messiah would have average looks. What are the odds that someone could just guess that in 800 years there would be an average-looking person?
The signs of Christ's return are being fulfilled, if you'll just take a look at the world around you.
Mat 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
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Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
Of course, over the last 2,000 years there have been those who scoff, claiming that the signs of Jesus' return are vague, that there have always been earthquakes, plagues, wars and famines, that these things are nothing extraordinary. Ironically, the Bible predicted there would be people like this. By scoffing, they are fulfilling prophecy.
2 Pet 3:3-4 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
So if believe that many men over a period of 1500 years on three continents writing in three different languages just all happened to write books and letters that would all fit together like a jigsaw into our current Bible, with no contradictions among them, then you have more faith than I do.
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02-18-2015, 04:52 PM
I refer you all to the first post in this momentous thread.
The Reverend Jim Osbourne's word has reached the Arab world and has influenced Islamic thinking.
and this was the first point that Rev. Jim made.
I feel Islam coming closer to accepting Jesus.
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06-29-2015, 09:26 PM
You land in the he same spot when you jump because your moving at the same speed as and he earth the paper falls of the balloon because earth's gravity is greater than the mass of the balloon if gravity is false then why dose my paper plane fall ensted of just going and going and if the earth was flat there would be live video prof of an edge
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06-29-2015, 09:49 PM
Where in the bible dose it say the earth is flat and not round I'll tell you no where dose it say that and all of you that are claiming this are sining for trying to make ppl think this is true all of you need to go back and read you Bible
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06-29-2015, 11:23 PM
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Where in the bible dose it say the earth is flat and not round I'll tell you no where dose it say that and all of you that are claiming this are sining for trying to make ppl think this is true all of you need to go back and read you Bible
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06-30-2015, 02:37 AM
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You land in the he same spot when you jump because your moving at the same speed as and he earth the paper falls of the balloon because earth's gravity is greater than the mass of the balloon if gravity is false then why dose my paper plane fall ensted of just going and going and if the earth was flat there would be live video prof of an edge
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We are used to you know it all, false intellectuals coming here to explain how things really are. Most of the experts seem to have spelling down a little better than you, but I guess you are trying. You must be a public school man. Anyway, there is no spelling requirement for admission to Hell. That is where you are bound. Get right with Jesus or you will burn forever.
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06-30-2015, 03:13 AM
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Where in the bible dose it say the earth is flat and not round I'll tell you no where dose it say that and all of you that are claiming this are sining for trying to make ppl think this is true all of you need to go back and read you Bible
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06-30-2015, 12:23 PM
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You land in the he same spot when you jump because your moving at the same speed as and he earth the paper falls of the balloon because earth's gravity is greater than the mass of the balloon if gravity is false then why dose my paper plane fall ensted of just going and going and if the earth was flat there would be live video prof of an edge
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A bigger circle has a larger circumference. If you jump up you would have to move faster sideways the higher you are, otherwise you would not stay above the same spot, if you do land at the same spot you have just proved that either you sped up while going up and then slowed down while descending (not true) or you proved that the earth cannot possibly be spherical or even rotating (true).
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And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant: I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.
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A bigger circle has a larger circumference. If you jump up you would have to move faster sideways the higher you are, otherwise you would not stay above the same spot, if you do land at the same spot you have just proved that either you sped up while going up and then slowed down while descending (not true) or you proved that the earth cannot possibly be spherical or even rotating (true).
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You are correct in assuming that the higher you jump, the faster you would need to be going in order to stay at the same spot on earth. If you were twice as far above the center of the earth as a point on its surface, you would have to be going twice as fast as that point on Earth's surface (Since the circumference of a circle is directly proportional to the radius of a circle, an object twice as far from the center would have to cover twice the distance in the same time). However, the earth has a radius of 3,959 miles, an average human jumping 1 foot into the air would only make them 1.00000004784 times farther from Earth's center that he ground below them. (Note that this places the person on an equatorial beach, where they would be going the fastest and the supposed effect should be most noticeable and easiest to calculate. The number given is the ratio between the distance from Earth's center of a person who jumped 1 foot in the air on an equatorial beach divided by the beach's distance from Earth's center, which is ((3959mi * 5280) + 1)/(3959mi *5280), or 20903521ft/20903520ft.) Even though both Earth and the person would be moving at 1040 mph, the person would have to cover such an insignificantly smaller distance compared to Earth's surface during the duration of the jump, which would be slightly less than 1 second. (1040mph/3600 = .288889 mi/s, multiplied by 5280 to give the number in feet/s, = 1525.333333 ft/s, meaning that the Earth's surface would move 1525.333333 feet during that jump. Multiply that by the ratio established earlier to get the distance the jumper would move, which is 1525.333333ft * 20903521ft / 20903520ft, or 1525.333406 ft. That means that the person moved 0.00007297016 feet less than Earth's surface, or 0.00087564199 inches less.) Since the difference in velocity, even at Earth's equator where it would be most obvious, is so insignificant, you cannot measure a shift like that even with the most precise instruments available, much less notice it yourself.
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07-01-2015, 03:44 AM
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You are correct in assuming that the higher you jump, the faster you would need to be going in order to stay at the same spot on earth. If you were twice as far above the center of the earth as a point on its surface, you would have to be going twice as fast as that point on Earth's surface (Since the circumference of a circle is directly proportional to the radius of a circle, an object twice as far from the center would have to cover twice the distance in the same time). However, the earth has a radius of 3,959 miles, an average human jumping 1 foot into the air would only make them 1.00000004784 times farther from Earth's center that he ground below them. (Note that this places the person on an equatorial beach, where they would be going the fastest and the supposed effect should be most noticeable and easiest to calculate. The number given is the ratio between the distance from Earth's center of a person who jumped 1 foot in the air on an equatorial beach divided by the beach's distance from Earth's center, which is ((3959mi * 5280) + 1)/(3959mi *5280), or 20903521ft/20903520ft.) Even though both Earth and the person would be moving at 1040 mph, the person would have to cover such an insignificantly smaller distance compared to Earth's surface during the duration of the jump, which would be slightly less than 1 second. (1040mph/3600 = .288889 mi/s, multiplied by 5280 to give the number in feet/s, = 1525.333333 ft/s, meaning that the Earth's surface would move 1525.333333 feet during that jump. Multiply that by the ratio established earlier to get the distance the jumper would move, which is 1525.333333ft * 20903521ft / 20903520ft, or 1525.333406 ft. That means that the person moved 0.00007297016 feet less than Earth's surface, or 0.00087564199 inches less.) Since the difference in velocity, even at Earth's equator where it would be most obvious, is so insignificant, you cannot measure a shift like that even with the most precise instruments available, much less notice it yourself.
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07-01-2015, 03:46 PM
Note that I performed the calculations myself, the only data obtained through sources other than my own calculations were the base values of Earth's radius and the speed of a point on Earth's equator. I got those values from nasa.gov, though they are considered common knowledge, since those values would be fairly easy to obtain by someone with the right measuring equipment (GPS measuring devices) and is also available from a wide variety of different sources.
If you really want my specific sources, here they are:
Earth Radius (Note that I converted it into miles for easier calculation):
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary...earthfact.html
Earth Angular Velocity (rounded slightly for easier calculation):
http://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/ask/a10840.html
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Really? Really? Quite a lot of people might think that would make the calculation a whole lot more complicated, given that with kilometres you are only dealing with multiples of 10.
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Really? Really? Quite a lot of people might think that would make the calculation a whole lot more complicated, given that with kilometres you are only dealing with multiples of 10.
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By easier calculation, I meant that I wanted the final result to be in US customary units (since the majority of this forum's members use that system), so I wanted my input values to be in US customary units rather than metric units. Of course, the metric system is simpler than the US system, but I wanted the calculations done entirely in US customary units. Sorry for confusion regarding this.
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07-01-2015, 05:05 PM
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You are correct in assuming that the higher you jump, the faster you would need to be going in order to stay at the same spot on earth. If you were twice as far above the center of the earth as a point on its surface, you would have to be going twice as fast as that point on Earth's surface (Since the circumference of a circle is directly proportional to the radius of a circle, an object twice as far from the center would have to cover twice the distance in the same time). However, the earth has a radius of 3,959 miles, an average human jumping 1 foot into the air would only make them 1.00000004784 times farther from Earth's center that he ground below them. (Note that this places the person on an equatorial beach, where they would be going the fastest and the supposed effect should be most noticeable and easiest to calculate. The number given is the ratio between the distance from Earth's center of a person who jumped 1 foot in the air on an equatorial beach divided by the beach's distance from Earth's center, which is ((3959mi * 5280) + 1)/(3959mi *5280), or 20903521ft/20903520ft.) Even though both Earth and the person would be moving at 1040 mph, the person would have to cover such an insignificantly smaller distance compared to Earth's surface during the duration of the jump, which would be slightly less than 1 second. (1040mph/3600 = .288889 mi/s, multiplied by 5280 to give the number in feet/s, = 1525.333333 ft/s, meaning that the Earth's surface would move 1525.333333 feet during that jump. Multiply that by the ratio established earlier to get the distance the jumper would move, which is 1525.333333ft * 20903521ft / 20903520ft, or 1525.333406 ft. That means that the person moved 0.00007297016 feet less than Earth's surface, or 0.00087564199 inches less.) Since the difference in velocity, even at Earth's equator where it would be most obvious, is so insignificant, you cannot measure a shift like that even with the most precise instruments available, much less notice it yourself.
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This is very typical of the convoluted nonsense spewed out by the cult of science. In science, it is not possible to give a simple and obvious answer to a plain question. That simple answer would be easy to understand and the listener would know it was a load of hooey. Scientists find it necessary to look concerned, with furrowed intellectual brow, and give a complicated answer based on ridiculous theories that seem smart, but only because you don't understand what they are talking about and their attitude makes you embarrassed to admit you can't follow their nonsense.
In fact, the entire scientific theory about the round ball Earth spinning through space helter skelter and flying in formation with all the other planets and stars in the heavens is drivel. Don't be fooled by the fact that it is complicated drivel. That is the plain and simple answer.
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By easier calculation, I meant that I wanted the final result to be in US customary units... blah, blah, blah... Sorry for confusion regarding this.
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Sorry for the confusion, he says. See what I mean?
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Sorry for the confusion, he says. See what I mean?
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It's like they think we're all idiots, without a single intelligent thought between us. But the joke's on them. God calls us to be wise as serpents (Matthew 10:16), and I think that's because the serpent was the creature that introduced Eve to the toddler's cry, "MINE." Scientists do this too, and so we are wise to see it, even under the cloak of their gobbledygook and hogwash.
We know what scientists want. They cry "MINE" when they see the world. They want every Sin imaginable, and they work to convince people that Sin is Grand.
Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.
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It's like they think we're all idiots, without a single intelligent thought between us. But the joke's on them. God calls us to be wise as serpents (Matthew 10:16), and I think that's because the serpent was the creature that introduced Eve to the toddler's cry, "MINE." Scientists do this too, and so we are wise to see it, even under the cloak of their gobbledygook and hogwash.
We know what scientists want. They cry "MINE" when they see the world. They want every Sin imaginable, and they work to convince people that Sin is Grand.
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You do realize that scientists are responsible for the medicine that saved millions of lives each year, for the cars that you drive, and for the computer that you typed this on? Scientists perform experiments to figure out how the universe works and then invent things based off of that knowledge. Without science, you would be unable to have any of these things. Also, if you live in certain regions, you probably get the majority of your electricity from uranium atoms splitting in a machine called a nuclear reactor.
Also, like almost everyone, I find the conversion between US and Metric units to be rather annoying.
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