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Default Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky? - 02-04-2018, 09:41 AM

If the Earth is spinning through space, and the surface of the earth at the equator moves at a speed of 1,000 miles per hour, and also traveling around the sun with a supposed orbital speed of about 19 miles per second, or 67,000 miles per hour, then why do the star trails look like the Earth is not moving at all, but the stars are rotating? Why doesn't the North Star move? Why do we see the same constellations as man did thousands of years ago if the earth whips past them at such tremendous speed (Amos 5:8)? How are they supposed to fall if we blast past them (Mark 13:25)?

I love science. I'm a homeschooler and love to teach my children how Jesus created the world, but to call it "evidence"? "Facts?" To lay it as your epistemology? That's just silly. The Holy Bible has a perfect monopoly on truth. It has no contradictions; no fault.
Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.
1 Chronicles 16:30

The Lord reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the Lord is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.
Psalms 93:1

Say among the heathen that the Lord reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously.
Psalms 96:10

Then spake Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.
Joshua 10:12
Atheists can't explain this, so they make up mythologies to corrupt children:



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Default Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky? - 02-04-2018, 06:23 PM

It is my firm hard Christian belief that God Almighty created the world in 7 drunken nights. On the first he created light. On the second he created darkness to balance out the light. On the third he created the rest of the world. Then the last four he decided screw it I'll create a bunch of crazy followers who will just end up preaching shit on the internet.

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Default Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky? - 02-04-2018, 07:28 PM

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It's been 18 months since you joined here? You could have read the Bible, cover-to-cover, a dozen times by now.

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Default Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky? - 02-04-2018, 11:58 PM

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It is my firm hard Christian belief that God Almighty created the world in 7 drunken nights. On the first he created light. On the second he created darkness to balance out the light. On the third he created the rest of the world. Then the last four he decided screw it I'll create a bunch of crazy followers who will just end up preaching shit on the internet.

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Jesus Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky? - 02-05-2018, 12:33 AM

'Science' still does not have all the answers but the Bible does.

The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. The Bible explains everything in merely 1,281 pages. How much simpler can you get?




Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
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Default Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky? - 02-05-2018, 12:41 AM

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If the Earth is spinning through space, and the surface of the earth at the equator moves at a speed of 1,000 miles per hour, and also traveling around the sun with a supposed orbital speed of about 19 miles per second, or 67,000 miles per hour, then why do the star trails look like the Earth is not moving at all, but the stars are rotating? Why doesn't the North Star move?
Your brilliant husband certainly found a way to prove all atheists wrong once and for all. I hope you didn't waste too much valuable time typing up his brilliant ideas. Toilets need scrubbing and dinners need making.

Now that we finally got rid of the atheist problem, we can move on to more important matters. Has anyone seen my shovel?


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Default Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky? - 02-05-2018, 01:00 PM

Ok in all seriousness though to answer your retarded question. The Earth orbits the sun. For those stupid people that means it is rotating around the sun in circles. That is why we see the same constellations as man did thousands of years ago. That lot of questions doesn't prove atheists wrong it just proves you know nothing about how the world works.

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Ok in all seriousness though to answer your retarded question. The Earth orbits the sun. For those stupid people that means it is rotating around the sun in circles. That is why we see the same constellations as man did thousands of years ago. That lot of questions doesn't prove atheists wrong it just proves you know nothing about how the world works.

P.S. I've noticed you are sexist ***vulgar expressions depicting anatomically unclean regions removed***. Everyone is equal. No matter what.


Had you read the Bible, you would know that the earth does not move!

Psalms 104:5
Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.

Had you educated yourself in science, you would know that the constellations change over time. Even if the atheist notion of constellations and stars and Old Age of the Earth were right, you would still be mistaken. We do not see the the same constellations as man did thousands of years ago. Here's an image that shows from the secular perspective how the Big Dipper has changed over time (and will change).



Now knowing the Bible nor anything about secular astrology is understandable but not excusable. Please, any kind of education would become you more than the ignorance. I'm praying for you.


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Ha ha!!! Orion!!!! The astrologists have given him antennć
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Default Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky? - 02-05-2018, 06:45 PM

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Ok in all seriousness though to answer your retarded question. The Earth orbits the sun.
How could you know unless you've stood on the sun and watched the earth speed around it like some cosmic Lemon Twist Toy?



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For those stupid people that means it is rotating around the sun in circles. That is why we see the same constellations as man did thousands of years ago. That lot of questions doesn't prove atheists wrong it just proves you know nothing about how the world works.
That's just tautology. You're claiming the constellations remain the same because they remain the same. It doesn't make sense when you look at it objectively. It only works if you have faith in science. Have you never noticed when you're driving that the trees or telephone poles zip right past you? The stars don't do that, as one would expect if the earth is truly zipping around the sun.

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P.S. I've noticed you are sexist ***vulgar expressions depicting anatomically unclean regions removed***. Everyone is equal. No matter what.
Not quite. Everyone is born equal - that is, equal before the LORD in that mankind was born into sin (Romans 5:12). However, Jesus died on the cross for some of us so that we could be improved, all the way to perfection (1 John 3:9). So you might say True Christians™ are equal to each other and sinners are equal to each other, but True Christians™ are not equal to sinners any more than the Lemon Twist Game is equal to the child controlling it. Correlation does not equal equality here, dear.


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Ok in all seriousness though to answer your retarded question. The Earth orbits the sun. For those stupid people that means it is rotating around the sun in circles. That is why we see the same constellations as man did thousands of years ago. That lot of questions doesn't prove atheists wrong it just proves you know nothing about how the world works.
Science education is really failing the next generation. At this rate it will have to be moved the ancient literature class. "Orbit" the sun? Then in the next sentence it's not "orbiting" any more it's "rotating" - in circles! Does your school library not have a dictionary? Usually there's a McGraw-Hill somewhere, or has the library been burned down? Next "circles" come up. Here's what Cornell's astrologist claimed only last year:

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Default Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky? - 02-08-2018, 03:11 PM

I find it disheartening that we need to justify our beliefs with evidence other than the Bible itself in order to convince certain Sinning Oranges...

Why should we need to bring up anything but the Bible itself to convince them? Don't they understand that they're nothing but worms before God until they pick it up?


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Default Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky? - 02-09-2018, 12:01 PM

The theories just keep coming.
.Phlogiston Theory
. The Ćther
. .Miasmatic Disease Hypothesis
. . Heliocentric Universe Theory
. . .Single Fluid Optics (there is no such thing as darkness)
. . . Seawater Petrified Into Rocks Theory (rocks are made from water)
. . . .Emission Theory Of Vision (beams shoot out of your eyes)
. . . . Worms Of The Teeth (did no-one ever look in the mirror with their mouth open?)

It's a laugh a minute except that all these have one thing in common. A great big horrible thing. They were all wrong. Earnestly advanced by people whose only objective seems to be contradicting The Bible. And just like Vatican heretics they happily eject dogma when it seems that something different will bring in more cash. "Your babies are being tortured in Limbo: we accept cash," until the catholics themselves (not the ones at The Vatican who obviously don't believe any of it) decided that they didn't really think God would torture babies so they toned it down a bit "OK, ok, but they still need prayers, usual currencies at so-much-a-word index linked ppp, and it's just most babies.." to which after a while the hoi polloi responded "No, sorry, we're fading fast here," and the rapid riposte "Some babies and we'll just charge by the minute." I won't go on; in the end they simple declared there was no Limbo after all.


So for the previous 800 years when they said that a] the babies were in Limbo b] the prayers were getting through and eventually c] that the baby had now made it out, in fact they had no evidence for this and had been lying. Because whatever they said they had proof for previously is now something pronounced not to be there at all. You can't have evidence for something that doesn't exist, but they said they did and charged on that basis.

So-called scientists did the same thing. "Oh yes, your mouth has worms Mrs O'Gherkinshaw, you really should try another diet; fortunately we have a cure." Radium Theory kicks in here but clearly either the O'Gherkinshaw household lacks mirrors or the scientist is an obsessional charlatan. Both, probably, because we all know the cure is worse than the tooth worms and that tooth worms do not exist.

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Default Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky? - 02-12-2018, 11:02 AM

Stars move as the earth rotates on its own center. The north star is positioned on the center of this rotation, thats why its movement is minute and barely perceptible. If you take a long exposure photo at night you can see this movement. Any camera with manual mode can do this.
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Default Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky? - 02-12-2018, 11:26 AM

The earth does not move at all.

Psalm 104:1-5 O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty..Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.
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Default Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky? - 02-12-2018, 05:10 PM

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Stars move as the earth rotates on its own center. The north star is positioned on the center of this rotation, thats why its movement is minute and barely perceptible. If you take a long exposure photo at night you can see this movement. Any camera with manual mode can do this.
http://earthsky.org/astronomy-essent...-star-movement
That would only work if you were standing at the North Pole, dear. Here in the Godly state of Iowa we're miles from the North Pole and yet the North Star doesn't move, which it would if the earth really did spin like some cosmic dreidel Jesus spun 6000 years ago.


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That would only work if you were standing at the North Pole, dear. Here in the Godly state of Iowa we're miles from the North Pole and yet the North Star doesn't move, which it would if the earth really did spin like some cosmic dreidel Jesus spun 6000 years ago.
Interesting how atheists are always able to make up an answer that fits their subjective beliefs. We point out the obvious, posters like Hugo have to come up with something, no matter how ridiculous.


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Default Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky? - 02-13-2018, 08:32 AM

I hate to change the subject here, but as long as we're talking about the North Star we need to finally put to rest these spinning orbiting globe types once and for all - and that means talking about that limp wristed Frenchie Foucault and his pendulum.

Much like French Fries, these things have spread all over the place and in major cities in the world you can go see these things and you're supposed to sit and ponder - "see, that's proof that the earth is round and spinning".

Well, it's been debunked.



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