[Rylee Cline]

Originally Posted by XXsoul_lessxx

Didn't Jesus say treat others as you would have others treat you, or something very similar.
By bullying gay kids you're only sending a message of hate, i dnt agree with it but then again im gay so i have a better scope on what its like to be a young adult in a society where im not accepted.
preach tolerance and love and the word of god and accept people for who they are, just as jesus did

This is the only christianity i agree with

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Rylee Cline

...You guys realize you're the minority, right...

That just means they're doing it right.

Matthew 7:14 "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Rylee Cline

This is the only christianity i agree with

The kind that has NO Biblical support, and misrepresents what Jesus said and taught.

Tell me again, how that is Christianity?

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by some nut

preach tolerance and love and the word of god and accept people for who they are

The Word of God commands that ALL people including women, children, babies and fœtuses (having been first ripped out of their mothers' bellies) who do not worship God or who worship Him "in a different way" or even not in a different way but at the wrong time are to be killed. Chopped up, mainly but some are to stoned or incinerated alive.

When you preach the Word of God that is what you preach.

Now the REASON why God commanded that is because He loves US.

He says so. In The Bible, the Word of God you want us to preach.

Here is your quote again:

preach tolerance and love and the word of god and accept people for who they are

Before I post the actual portions of God's Word where He commands that I'd like you to give your definitions of the following terms. I do not want to misunderstand you.

1. preach
2. tolerance
3. accept people for who they are

— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —

1. preach means .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
2. tolerance means . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
3. accept people for who they are means .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

[Rylee Cline]

Originally Posted by Didymus Much

That just means they're doing it right.

Matthew 7:14 "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

That depends, if the view was widespread and is shrinking there is obviously something flawed with it or people just don't care anymore

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Rylee Cline

That depends, if the view was widespread and is shrinking there is obviously something flawed with it...

Or something wrong with the people making the decision...

... or people just don't care anymore

Stick around, and find out just how many people have been letting us know (quite vocally, bordering on hysterics in some cases) just how much they "don't care".

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor

1. preach means .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
2. tolerance means . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
3. accept people for who they are means .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Well the nut-job got banned, probably not very surprising. But in the context of this thread and because other homoerotic soapbox merchants are sure to bring up the same stuff repeatedly I'll leave the questions here for anyone else to answer. Perhaps you'll need to take it along for your socialist to look at so he can tell you what you think?


OK. Here's the A4 printer version.
. . . .DRAG. TO. PRINTER
. . . . .

[inbred queer]

Are you kidding me? I am legitimately speechless. Being gay doesn't make you any less than anyone else; why in the world is it alright to bully them? Issues should never be resolved with violence, nor harsh words.

And, just because some Christians are against homosexuality, doesn't give you a right to harm someone, physically or mentally. Is it really that hard to ignore them? Is it really necessary to bully someone for something that they don't control? That's like picking on someone for having a stupid looking nose. They don't control it, and don't you think they'd change it and make it easier for themselves if they could?

Have you ever thought of the aftermaths of bullying? Chances are, if a kid is gay, they're aware that they're a minority and their self-esteem is already low. If more kids bully them, their plucking at a loose, thin thread that could easily fall apart. Would you really encourage someone to pick on another, knowing that it could result in a medical condition known as depression? Are you aware that people have committed suicide due to bullying? How would you feel knowing you're responsible for a kid's death? Are you even taking these possibilities into the equation? Every action has a reaction, and it's highly likely that the reaction to what you're telling Christians to do is destined to be bad.

For a moment, take religion out of the question. Narrow it down to just a kid, no matter the religion, calling another kid bad names and/or punching them. That's really all it is. There's reasoning behind it, no matter how stupid the reasons may be, but that's beside the point. People shouldn't feel the need to want to hurt another person. And you're encouraging just that; you're encouraging people to want to, or to actually hurt another person.

You guys are an embarrassment to the human species, really. The world would be a better place without people like you.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Veneziano Vargas

You guys are an embarrassment to the human species, really. The world would be a better place without people like you.

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[inbred queer]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

Something that this guy says to everyone who posts their opinion on a thread...

Alrighty, there, pal. I'm aware that you don't like what I said, but it's my opinion, and I just wanted to put it out there. Hell, delete it if you want, but as long as some of you have read it, I'm rooting for a least a tad of guilt to set in one of you.

*** potty language removed ***

[Zechariah Smyth]

Originally Posted by Veneziano Vargas

Alrighty, there, pal. I'm aware that you don't like what I said, but it's my opinion, and I just wanted to put it out there. Hell, delete it if you want, but as long as some of you have read it, I'm rooting for a least a tad of guilt to set in one of you.

*** potty language removed ***

If you can't conduct yourself in an appropriate manner, I'm going to have to ask you to leave.



Yours in Christ,

Zech

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by Veneziano Vargas

aware that they're a minority and their self-esteem is already low.

I find your remarks inappropriate and offensive. I am a member of an ethnic minority and your presumption that I should have low self esteem is overbearing, arrogant and ill informed.

The Bible does not tell me to "bully" perverts. If you had read Rev. Flint's post - it's #1 - you'd know that the expression is a politically correct construct designed to further the homosexual agenda.

Where does it say that? HERE —> 20 SECONDS INTO THE YOUTUBE CLIP

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

..but gay rights groups are calling the idea a licence to bully.

Lawmakers disagree. Informing someone of the fact that their abominable lifestyle leads to infinite torment on a never-ending basis does not constitute the bullying myth invented by sodomites as a new way to be precious.

The thing they don't want to hear [the truth] is the thing Christians have a right to tell them. They wanna call it "bullying"? Then that's what's we're free to do. But it is more than just a right. It is an obligation.

Mark 16:15 And he [Jesus] said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
KJV

[Missionary in Sweden]

When the gay kids grow up and turn straight they'll just be grateful to all the upright Christians who kindly reminded them of the wrongs of their new wicked and sinful path in life.

Kids who bully gay kids should be rewarded by their schools and parents. They're only doing the faglets a favor.

Why don't they think of all the poor defenseless gay children who didn't have schoolmates who stood by them, did what was right and bullied them? I feel sad for any man or woman who continue into adulthood still being confused about the sinfulness of their acts.

Genesis

"And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him."
What did Ham do? Did he just look at his naked father or was there something more to it than that? Some commentators have suggested that Ham committed homosexual rape on his drunken father, and that this was why Ham's descendants were eternally punished with slavery. 9:24
This verse doesn't say what the Sodomites did to make them such exceedingly great sinners, though most bible believers equate "Sodomite" with homosexual. (But see Ezekiel 16:49, which claims the sins of Sodom were pride, gluttony, sloth, greed, and failure to help the poor.) 13:13
The two angels that visit Lot wash their feet, eat, and are sexually irresistible to Sodomites. 19:1-5
God kills everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah. This was because, so say the Christian Right, some homosexuals lived there (See 19:4-5). 19:24-25
"And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham, mocking."
What did Sarah see that disturbed her so much?
Jonathan Kirsch suggests in The Harlot by the Side of the Road that the "play" between Isaac and Ishmael may have been of a sexual nature, noting that the same word is used to describe the behaviour of Ishmael and Isaac as is used in 26:8 to describe Isaac's fondling of Rebekah. 21:9
Leviticus

Homosexual acts are an abomination to God. 18:22
If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13
Deuteronomy

Women are not to wear men's clothing and vice versa -- it's an "abomination unto the Lord." 22:5
God says not to bring any whore, sodomite, or dog into the house of the Lord. For "these things are an abomination to the Lord." Sodomites and dogs are biblical names for homosexuals. 23:17-18
Ruth

Ruth loved Naomi as Adam loved Eve. (Or so say the folks at WouldJesusDiscriminate.org) 1:14
1 Samuel

Saul is angered by his son's homosexual affair with David and says, "do not I know that thou has chosen the son of Jesse to thine own confusion of thy mother's nakedness?" 20:30
Saul sets an example for Christian parents that discover that they have a homosexual child: try to kill the child and his or her lover. 20:31-33
1 Kings

"There were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations...."
God shows his homophobia by calling gay people "sodomites" and their sexual relations "abominations." 14:24
Asa "did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD" by expelling homosexuals (or "sodomites", as the good book calls them). 15:12
Jehoshaphat "did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord" and "took" the homosexuals (sodomites) "out of the land," or as the RSV says, "he exterminated" them. 22:43, 46
2 Kings

Josiah, with God's approval, broke down the houses of the sodomites. 23:7
Isaiah

"They declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul!"
The biblical god just doesn't seem to care much for homosexuals. And he gets especially upset when "they hide it not." 3:9
Daniel

"Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all."
Some Christians think this refers to the antichrist. (He'll be an atheist homosexual.) 11:37
Luke

Increase your chance of being raptured: Pray to be gay! 17:34-35
John

"There was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved." Was Jesus gay? 13:23-25
"The disciple standing by, whom he loved" Was Jesus gay? 19:26, 21:20
Romans

With his usual intolerance, Paul condemns homosexuals (including lesbians). This is the only clear reference to lesbians in the Bible. 1:26-28
Homosexuals (those "without natural affection") and their supporters (those "that have pleasure in them") are "worthy of death." 1:31-32
1 Corinthians

Paul lists ten things that will keep you out of heaven, including homosexuality and being "effeminate." 6:9-10
1 Timothy

Homosexuals (those "that defile themselves with mankind") are included on the list of lawless, disobedient, unholy, and profane people. 1:10
2 Timothy

Iin the last days people will become evil, "without natural affection." Fundamentalist say that this refers to homosexuals. 3:3
Jude

God sent "eternal fire" on the people of Sodom and Gomorrah for "going after strange flesh." 7-8
Revelation

Are the 144,000 men that are "not defiled by women" homosexuals? Are only gay men to be saved? 14:1-4
"Dogs [homosexuals?], sorcerers, whoremongers, idolaters" and along with anyone who ever told a lie will not enter the heavenly city. 22:15

[Missionary in Sweden]

Originally Posted by XXsoul_lessxx

Didn't Jesus say treat others as you would have others treat you, or something very similar.
By bullying gay kids you're only sending a message of hate, i dnt agree with it but then again im gay so i have a better scope on what its like to be a young adult in a society where im not accepted.
preach tolerance and love and the word of god and accept people for who they are, just as jesus did

Yes, he did. But he also said gays should be put to death by stoning. So technically the bullies are committing a sin by only bullying the kid. God's command is to kill the little Godless fag.

Leviticus 20:13
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

[inbred queer]

Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor

I find your remarks inappropriate and offensive. I am a member of an ethnic minority and your presumption that I should have low self esteem is overbearing, arrogant and ill informed.

I never said that because they're a minority, that they have a low self esteem. I said that chances are, they've got a low self esteem along with knowing that they're a minority. I never toed the two together, now did I?

The Bible does not tell me to "bully" perverts. If you had read Rev. Flint's post - it's #1 - you'd know that the expression is a politically correct construct designed to further the homosexual agenda.

You're right, the bible does not say to bully gay people. But you're wrong with your second statement; not only gay people get bullied, therefore why would an anti-bullying legislation only be there to further the homosexual agenda? Plenty of people get bullied for other things; their clothes, their looks, their personality, their religion. Assumptions, huh? Have you ever thought that maybe people who're trying to stop bullying -wait for it, this must be a new concept to you- actually care about other people's well-beings?

Lawmakers disagree. Informing someone of the fact that their abominable lifestyle leads to infinite torment on a never-ending basis does not constitute the bullying myth invented by sodomites as a new way to be precious.

Bullying wasn't invented by gay people. And while you may think it's a fact that if you're gay, then you're going to hell, other people might believe something else. Technically, it hasn't been proven, therefore it isn't a fact. Also, saying to someone, "you're going to hell, fag," isn't the nicest thing ever, and can very well be considered bullying, as the definition for bullying is [I]"To treat in an overbearing or intimidating manner." Pretty sure that's overbearing and intimidating.

The thing they don't want to hear [the truth] is the thing Christians have a right to tell them. They wanna call it "bullying"? Then that's what's we're free to do. But it is more than just a right. It is an obligation.

Sure, tell them they're going to hell. Make them feel like shit for having feelings they don't control. Whatever, do what you please. But you don't need to do it in a rude manner, you don't need to hit them, and you certainly don't need to make them feel like an outcast. I know the feeling, it's not nice. Also, I wonder how obligated someone'll feel to remind a gay person that their lifestyle is a sin when they get a restraining order against you for harassment. Hah. Freedom of speech, yeah, but there's such a thing as drawing a line and having decency. There's a difference between telling someone that their lifestyle is wrong in god's eyes, and calling someone a fag and pointing and laughing. Some people really need to learn the difference.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Originally Posted by Verezano Vargas

I never said that because they're a minority, that they have a low self esteem. I said that chances are, they've got a low self esteem along with knowing that they're a minority. I never toed the two together, now did I?



You're right, the bible does not say to bully gay people. But you're wrong with your second statement; not only gay people get bullied, therefore why would an anti-bullying legislation only be there to further the homosexual agenda? Plenty of people get bullied for other things; their clothes, their looks, their personality, their religion. Assumptions, huh? Have you ever thought that maybe people who're trying to stop bullying -wait for it, this must be a new concept to you- actually care about other people's well-beings?



Bullying wasn't invented by gay people. And while you may think it's a fact that if you're gay, then you're going to hell, other people might believe something else. Technically, it hasn't been proven, therefore it isn't a fact. Also, saying to someone, "you're going to hell, fag," isn't the nicest thing ever, and can very well be considered bullying, as the definition for bullying is [I]"To treat in an overbearing or intimidating manner." Pretty sure that's overbearing and intimidating.



Sure, tell them they're going to hell. Make them feel like shit for having feelings they don't control. Whatever, do what you please. But you don't need to do it in a rude manner, you don't need to hit them, and you certainly don't need to make them feel like an outcast. I know the feeling, it's not nice. Also, I wonder how obligated someone'll feel to remind a gay person that their lifestyle is a sin when they get a restraining order against you for harassment. Hah. Freedom of speech, yeah, but there's such a thing as drawing a line and having decency. There's a difference between telling someone that their lifestyle is wrong in god's eyes, and calling someone a fag and pointing and laughing. Some people really need to learn the difference.

Please explain to me how we are bullying queers when THEY COME HERE.



I'm begging you: please go to your nearest law enforcement agency and ask for a restraining order against Landover Baptist that somehow covers fags who come here of their own volition.



Also: this is your last warning about the language. If you can't control your pathetic outbursts they will be controlled for you.



YiC,

Zech

[inbred queer]

Originally Posted by Zechariah Smyth

Please explain to me how we are bullying queers when THEY COME HERE.

I didn't necessarily mean on this forum. I'm sure you've said something to a gay person that couldn't be considered nice in person, am I right? But still, if a kid walks past, say, a gym locker where there's bunch of football players, and starts talking to them like they'd talk to their friends, and then the football players bully the kid - yeah, that could easily demonstrate the forum situation. Although I'm not saying you're bullies, I'm just saying it's possible.

I'm begging you: please go to your nearest law enforcement agency and ask for a restraining order against Landover Baptist that somehow covers fags who come here of their own volition.

I meant in person. If someone were to harass me in person, I'd definitely file for a restraining order. I'm sure you would, too. On the internet, though, it's really not a big deal. Anyone can be a hardcore badass over the internet.

Also: this is your last warning about the language. If you can't control your pathetic outbursts they will be controlled for you.

Alright, I apologize. I'd blame it on the fact that I have ADHD, but you probably don't care so I'll just leave it to rest. I'll stop with my "outbursts", as I'm aware they may seem hurtful.. yeah.

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by Rylee Cline

That depends, if the view was widespread and is shrinking there is obviously something flawed with it or people just don't care anymore

You do realise that the idea that something is only true if a lot of people believe it is a well known fallacy, right?

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by Verezano Vargas

Alright, I apologize. I'd blame it on the fact that I have ADHD, but you probably don't care so I'll just leave it to rest. I'll stop with my "outbursts", as I'm aware they may seem hurtful.. yeah.

The ADHD demons can be successfully beaten out of you by a trained, True Christian therapist...

[inbred queer]

Originally Posted by Redeemed Papist

The ADHD demons can be successfully beaten out of you by a trained, True Christian therapist...

ADHD is a mental disorder, which means it was most likely inherited from my parents, and you can't get rid of it with therapy. The most they can do to help me is medication. It's not even that bad. It's just I tend to say stuff in the heat of the moment (have no filter to my motormouth) and I fidget a lot. That's all. But whatever.