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No, you don't. You don't know everyone's background, so you can't make that claim. Back when I had to go to public high school, I used to hang out with every group, but the goths were my fav. They're mostly really cool, extremely goofy sometimes though. But many have sexual desires that aren't mainstream, and everyone has some type of problem, mental, emotional, or physical. They're good people, but few were Christian, and of those, the majority were Catholic. They say bad company corrupts good morals, and in the end I left before I had a fall from grace.

No, I do not know everyones background, that's true. But at least they don't scream racist things like many do here. Sure, many aren't really mainstream, even not in sexual desires but nobody forces anyone to be something that they don't want to be, I mean by this, while I know some gay Goths it has never occurred to me to become gay too, it's just not who I am. And that's what these people here don't realize, they still seem to believe in stereotypes. Neither does all Goths are satanist, wiccans and so on, everybody choses that for him/herself. It doesn't mean that Goths are bad company, if a gay goth tries to make a move on me I will kick his sorry butt too, I just don't appreciate that kind of behavior. In general Goths really behave better than most people, when I go out I never have to worry about violence, In all those years I go out in that scene I never even encountered a fight. And no, not all Goths are good people, there are bad Goths too, just as in any society but it's your own choice if you want to be friends with this kind of people or not.
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Rip the sacred flesh
Sodomize the holy asshole
Drink the red blood of the mother of earth
Masturbation on the dead body of christ
The king of Jews is dead
and so are the lies
Vomit on the host of Heaven
Masturbate on the throne of God
Break the seals of angels
Drink the sweet blood of Christ
Taste the flesh of the priest
Sodomize holy nuns
The king of Jews is a liar
The Heavens will burn
Dethrone the son of God
God is dead
Holyness is gone
Purity is gone
Prayers are burned
Covered in black shit
Rape the holy ghost
Unclean birth of Jesus Christ
Heaven will fall
piffle the church
piffle Christ
piffle the Virgin
piffle the gods of Heaven
piffle the name of Jesus


This is a text written in a gothic cd!!! THEY ARE EVIL!
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Rip the sacred flesh
Sodomize the holy asshole
Drink the red blood of the mother of earth
Masturbation on the dead body of christ
The king of Jews is dead
and so are the lies
Vomit on the host of Heaven
Masturbate on the throne of God
Break the seals of angels
Drink the sweet blood of Christ
Taste the flesh of the priest
Sodomize holy nuns
The king of Jews is a liar
The Heavens will burn
Dethrone the son of God
God is dead
Holyness is gone
Purity is gone
Prayers are burned
Covered in black shit
Rape the holy ghost
Unclean birth of Jesus Christ
Heaven will fall
piffle the church
piffle Christ
piffle the Virgin
piffle the gods of Heaven
piffle the name of Jesus


This is a text written in a gothic cd!!! THEY ARE EVIL!
Band name, name of the CD and Song name, please.
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goths, satanists, witches, and the like are all different. This sounds satanist to me. Goth music is more like Breaking the Habit by Linkin' Park.

Memories consume
Like opening the wound
I�m picking me apart again
You all assume
I�m safe here in my room
(unless I try to start again)

I don�t want to be the one
The battles always choose
�Cause inside I realize
That I�m the one confused

I don�t know what�s worth fighting for
Or why I have to scream
I don�t know why I instigate
And say what I don�t mean
I don�t know how I got this way
I know it�s not alright
So I�m
Breaking the habit
Tonight


Another embodiment of the 'goth' music scene is System which is by the same artist.

You fell away,
What more can I say?
The feelings evolved,
I won't let it out,
I can't replace...
Your screaming face,
Feeling the sickness inside

Why won't you die?
Your blood in mine…
We'll be fine…
Then your body will be mine

So many words
Can't describe my face
This feeling's evolved
So soon to break out
I can't relate
to a happy state
feeling the blood run inside

Why won't you die?
Your blood in mine…
We'll be fine…
Then your body will be mine

Why is everything so piffleing hard for me?
Keep me down to what you think I should be!
Must you tempt me and provoke the ministry?

Keep on trying I’ll not die so easily

I will not die…

Why is everything so piffleing hard for me?

I will not die…

Why is everything so piffleing hard for me?

I will not die…

Why won't you die?
Your blood is mine….
We'll be fine….
Then your body will be mine (x 2)

Either way, being around people who believe this kind of pain is natural was hard for me. I was used to wallowing in good fortune and the love of Christ, so this quickly depressed me and I left them behind.
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goths, satanists, witches, and the like are all different. This sounds satanist to me. Goth music is more like Breaking the Habit by Linkin' Park.

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Either way, being around people who believe this kind of pain is natural was hard for me. I was used to wallowing in good fortune and the love of Christ, so this quickly depressed me and I left them behind.
OK, I can understand you got depressed this but it only applies to you personally of course. It's your decision to leave them behind and I respect that choice. For me, it's a different story, I've been a Goth for over 15 years now and never have been feeling depressed by Goth music or people, I usually avoid those depressed types, they indeed bring no happiness. But being depressed and sad is not only a thing Goths experience, many common people have it too.

Being a Satanist is a free choice, you either go with it or not. I have not met many Satanic Goths, and it's not that they try to hide it, Goths are open about things like that. You will find a lot more Satanist in the Black/Death metal scene than in the Goth scene.
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Band name, name of the CD and Song name, please.
You idiot duck. If you really wanted to download that particular song you could have easily googled any of the lines in the lyrics to find the particular artist.
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You idiot duck. If you really wanted to download that particular song you could have easily googled any of the lines in the lyrics to find the particular artist.

Mhh, indeed I can. And I did.

Seems that the lyrics are from a band named Havohej and the song is called Dethrone the son of god. Now, this band is not even remotely Goth like the OP of the lyrics claimed, it's actually a Heavy Metal band and the Metal scene is completely different that the Gothic scene.

In other words, it's just a lame post to stir up the emotions.
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Mhh, indeed I can. And I did.

Seems that the lyrics are from a band named Havohej and the song is called Dethrone the son of god. Now, this band is not even remotely Goth like the OP of the lyrics claimed, it's actually a Heavy Metal band and the Metal scene is completely different that the Gothic scene.

In other words, it's just a lame post to stir up the emotions.
WRONG AGAIN, DUCK! HEAVY METAL IS GOTH! So is black metal, punk, grunge, thrash, post-punk, neo-folk etc etc. Because Goths listen to all these musics - and more.

You know, you worthless goth freaks come onto these forums year in and year out, and tell us that goth is NOT the music! That it is a style and a state of mind and a way of dress and a way of living. As I said, you all 'claim' to all be into a diverse taste in music from post-punk to metal to industrial to rock music, and 'claim' that goth is NOT the music.

We have seen goths on these forums years before Virginia Tech happened, claiming they like 'guns and roses'. Same with Columbine. Apparently 'Manson' WAS goth BEFORE Columbine. So now he isn't??? Big surprise! You freaks will do anything to cover your own asses. First Goth is not the music, now it is??? We are NOT niave'.
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Ok, Manson is NOT Goth I can tell you this now. Those who are NOT posers can't stand Manson. I don't care who you think you are, but if you are not Goth you cannot categorize Goth.

Yes there are African American Goths! My boyfriend, Shadow, is one, and yes he wears black.

Before you ask, Shadow has never done a thing to me. He does not hurt me, or himself; he does not worship "satan", in fact he is Christian. We like hard rock and techno. Neither one of us particularly enjoy the effects of alcohol (or the taste), but walking around the city at night is great when it's not storming. I don't like lightning.
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Ok, Manson is NOT Goth I can tell you this now. Those who are NOT posers can't stand Manson. I don't care who you think you are, but if you are not Goth you cannot categorize Goth.

Yes there are African American Goths! My boyfriend, Shadow, is one, and yes he wears black.

Before you ask, Shadow has never done a thing to me. He does not hurt me, or himself; he does not worship "satan", in fact he is Christian. We like hard rock and techno. Neither one of us particularly enjoy the effects of alcohol (or the taste), but walking around the city at night is great when it's not storming. I don't like lightning.
Are you a queer? And a race-traitor too? And now you want to claim that goth trash are capable of being Christian?

Do you know how idiotic you sound?

Try reading more of this forum, nancyboy. You might learn something. I'll be praying for you.
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Manson is NOT Goth I can tell you this now. Those who are NOT posers can't stand Manson.
Have you ever been to a MM show? Full of goths. What do goths wear? MM shirts.

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WRONG AGAIN, DUCK! HEAVY METAL IS GOTH! So is black metal, punk, grunge, thrash, post-punk, neo-folk etc etc. Because Goths listen to all these musics - and more.

You know, you worthless goth freaks come onto these forums year in and year out, and tell us that goth is NOT the music! That it is a style and a state of mind and a way of dress and a way of living. As I said, you all 'claim' to all be into a diverse taste in music from post-punk to metal to industrial to rock music, and 'claim' that goth is NOT the music.

We have seen goths on these forums years before Virginia Tech happened, claiming they like 'guns and roses'. Same with Columbine. Apparently 'Manson' WAS goth BEFORE Columbine. So now he isn't??? Big surprise! You freaks will do anything to cover your own asses. First Goth is not the music, now it is??? We are NOT niave'.
LOL, So, did you ever go to any of the things you mentioned here?? I guess not, so who are you to know what's really going on??

First of all, Metalheads and Goths rarely go to each others gigs or parties, it happens but it's not a frequent thing. Second, if you don't know that Post-Punk is another name for Goth than you are certainly not very informed about Goth. Third, the other styles you mention have either nothing to do with Goth (like grunge and all) they attract a completely different kind of people that are not even remotely Goth.

I do not claim you cannot listen to all those others but if you want a pure definition of Goth then your definition is not correct. Just like you claim MM is Goth, he isn't, he is a shockrocker who obviously wants to shock people with his appearance.

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Have you ever been to a MM show? Full of goths. What do goths wear? MM shirts.

End of argument.
I do not even have CD's or even have a shirt of MM. I went once to a concert and was happy when it was over, I was glad I had free tickets because otherwise I would have been a waste money. What I saw was very little real Goths, many posers, yes, but Goths, not many.
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Are you a queer? And a race-traitor too? And now you want to claim that goth trash are capable of being Christian?

Do you know how idiotic you sound?

Try reading more of this forum, nancyboy. You might learn something. I'll be praying for you.
I'm a girl. I do not sound idiotic and I'm not a "race-traitor." What on Mother Earth is a "race-traitor?"

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Great. Now I'm a high school Asian lolita candy raver.
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I'm sorry, but I am having trouble understanding what you mean.
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Could that be because you're a blithering idiot?
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Well, no, it could be that Nobar King is just saying words and not elaborating on them.
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