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Old 05-24-2008, 08:35 AM
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This is a cruel experiment because you deliberately did not do any reasearch on how evolution works before attempting the experiment. You ask, "Which secularist could have thought that dolphins could forget how to swim?" The dolphins didn't "forget" to swim, they most likely were so dramatized from the horrific events that they lost all motor abilities.
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My God LyingDingDong, you must be another one of those PETAtards that watches the real shows on Animal Planet. You have no scientific basis on which to ascribe anthropomorphic characteristics to animals. You have no idea what is going on inside their pea brains, not to mention aspiring to be thespians.
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Old 05-24-2008, 12:01 PM
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Mount Improbable is written to give the reader insight that design exists without a designer. Natural selection. Even if Genesis is correct
What do you mean, “Even if Genesis is correct…?” It’s the first Book of the Bible! God is not going to make a mistake on the first page is He?
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you can not deny that natural selection exists and results in complexity and design over a given length of time.
Have you ever visited a site called “Landoverbaptist.org”? I suggest you do, because that will answer your question!
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In order to read Mount Improbable you have think that order came about without God.
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This is a cruel experiment because you deliberately did not do any reasearch on how evolution works before attempting the experiment.
You keep posting on how evolution works – I read what you said – I assume that that is sufficient? Or have you been misleading us?
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You ask, “Which secularist could have thought that dolphins could forget how to swim?”. The dolphins didn't “forget” to swim, they most likely were so dramatized from the horrific events that they lost all motor abilities.
Well, if they were dramatized, they deserve Oscars! The were unmoving and belly-up!
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You're implying that evolution works as though it can be recovered from memory.
Like riding a bike – once learned, never forgotten. Or are you implying that evolution works as a one-way street in which previous advantage is discarded? That would be disadvantageous!
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I will admit that some scientists are sceptical on the theory of evolution because of irreducible complexity and could give the idea of an intelligent designer a thought.
As pleased as I am to hear that you are willing to embark upon the Road To Salvation by accepting God exists, I see Intelligent Design as pandering to the unholy creed of so-called science! It is like an atheist becoming an agnostic: an atheist would say that this is a retrograde step!
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However, the scientists that believe in evolution enormously outweigh the number of scientists that don't.
Nice to see you speaking for the entire scientific community but let me tell you, that none of the scientists at Landover believe this! So your “all” is a bit off.
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You have no proof that Dawkins is a communist or a sodomite. It's not listed in the Bible thus it can not be accurate. Give me one link that supports the idea that Dawkins is either a communist or a sodomite and I'll give you a cookie.
LyingDingDong – you are an idiot! You are just about to lose a bet again and even though the wager is only a cookie, you are not going to pay up! Dawkins speaks continually of the evolutionary advantage of co-operation; he speaks of how organisms that aid others tend to fare better. Marx it was who said, “from each according to his ability, to each according to their need.” You will see that Marx and Dawkins are at one; ergo Dawkins is a communist!
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Marx it was who said, “from each according to his ability, to each according to their need.”
That was a very Christian thing for Marx to say:

Acts 11:29 Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief unto the brethren which dwelt in Judaea.

Acts 4:34-35 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

As a True Christian, you do agree with that sentiment, don't you?
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That was a very Christian thing for Marx to say:

Acts 11:29 Then the disciples, every man according to his ability, determined to send relief unto the brethren which dwelt in Judaea.

Acts 4:34-35 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

As a True Christian, you do agree with that sentiment, don't you?
You’re deeply weird. Have you finished burning that wicker man on a beach to save the world? And did it work?

The difference here is that Marx wanted it to be done under the compulsion of being sent to a gulag and being worked, beaten and starved to death in the freezing cold of Siberia and all for a monolithic State, whereas God, in His infinite Wisdom and Mercy wants you to do it so that you may find Salvation in Him alone and enjoy Eternal Bliss in the Life Hereafter, as opposed to having your flesh peeled in the Fires of Hell.

Sounds like you’re a commie too!
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Starrboy,

We Christians also believe that if any would not work, neither should he eat. 2 Thessalonians 3:10

Please stop cherrypicking the Bible for just the verses that you like. You can accept the Bible or reject it, but selectively quoting Scripture to support your leftist agenda isn't going to convince anyone.
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The difference here is that Marx wanted it to be done under the compulsion of being sent to a gulag and being worked, beaten and starved to death in the freezing cold of Siberia and all for a monolithic State
I'm shocked that you don't know the difference between Marx and Lenin, but I'm glad to hear that you True Christians will be selling your Silver Tither gated communities voluntarily to help the downtrodden. And it's heartening to hear that you're against compulsion. Now, if only the Biblical God would get on board with you on that, the world would be a much better place.

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Sounds like you’re a commie too!
Communism has proved itself to be an economic failure; it's hard for a society to have economic justice when it doesn't have a functioning economy. Communism also supresses growth of the human spirit. So, no, I'm not a big fan. But I've been called worse.

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Please stop cherrypicking the Bible for just the verses that you like.
If the Bible weren't so filled with inconsistencies, I wouldn't even be able to cherrypick. But I really don't want to argue with you, Smith--it's like there's not a real person on the other side of the debate, just a brick wall.
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I'm shocked that you don't know the difference between Marx and Lenin,
Lenin was shot on 8 December 1980, in Joo York by Mark Chapman. Marx was constantly was disappointed that the English lower classes would not rise up and kill the rightful upper classes. Lennon was merely carrying out Marx’s philosophy that anyone with half a brain would have know did not work.
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Communism has proved itself to be an economic failure; […] I'm not a big fan. But I've been called worse.
I take that as something short of a denial

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A good decision – Brother Smith would wipe the floor with you.
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I wouldn't want to make the floor any less clean than it already is.
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Lennon was merely carrying out Marx’s philosophy that anyone with half a brain would have know did not work.
Ah, yes, the one who wrote about the Landover Paypal button in a some song discussing his ideas about revolution.

Nice to see that you True Christians have a sense of humor, but you seem to be ducking my question about the Landover bigshots selling their cars, personal jets, gold plated golf clubs, rolling estates, etc. voluntarily to help the less fortunate. That is going to happen, right?

SAVE THE WHALES! AND THE DOLPHINS!

Speaking of which, did you preach the Gospel to the dolphins before their inexplicable deaths? Jesus, in Mark 16:15, admonished Christians, "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature." You do take that verse literally, don't you?
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Mister Undergrad, I'm not sure I follow.

Why would Landover's True Christians want to save whales and dolphins, other than as food?
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[…]you seem to be ducking my question
Me? Ducking a question? Hey, what about the pot and the kettle – I can’t recall your ever giving a straight answer to anything.
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about the Landover bigshots selling their cars, personal jets, gold plated golf clubs, rolling estates, etc. voluntarily to help the less fortunate. That is going to happen, right?
How would that solve any problems? Assume for one moment anyone in the USA could afford to buy “rolling estates” and assume that the “rolling estates” were not administered under a shell company registered in Liechtenstein as a blind trust registered in Tonga for a holding company registered in Liberia with anonymous shareholders registered in the Cayman Islands, how would that help the poor?

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They got some pretty fine preaching at the time they were caught in the nets. Although some heathen tried to persuade us of the virtues of the Jack Cousteau Sea Life Ministry and was summarily dismissed and Brother OEJ has written extensively on the difficulties of preaching to bacteria, nevertheless, each creature falling into our possession, gets an appropriate reading from KJV1611,
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Me? Ducking a question? Hey, what about the pot and the kettle – I can’t recall your ever giving a straight answer to anything.
I don't divide answers into straight and gay categories, that's too narrow a worldview. But, outside the question "what do Unitarians believe," which I'm reluctant to tackle because Unitarian beliefs are not so uniform that I can give you a simple answer, what question have I failed to answer?

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Solve? It won't solve anything. "...the poor always ye have with you..." John 12:8 But I am worried about the immortal souls of your Pastor Deacon Fred and the others who inhabit the Landover gated communities: "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." Mark 10:25. It's not a solution, but rather salvation, at issue here.


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Well, if you guys really rebuke the animals in your "care," then the death of those dolphins was a blessing, not a tragedy.
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I"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." Mark 10:25.
Right next to the large plastic Jesus statue, we've got the world's largest needle, and we regularly have camels from the Freehold Zoo drag ropes through the eye. So, thanks for your concern, but if you want to save a soul, look into your own heart. Pastor Deacon Fred doesn't want or need your help.

Here's a question I'd like you to answer: Why do you hate Jesus?
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I don't hate anybody.

After the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Jesus is the person whom I most admire. I recognize, however, that Jesus was a product of his times, and we've made some progress in freedom and ethics over the last 2,000 years. At least, some of us have.
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I don't hate anybody.

After the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Jesus is the person whom I most admire.
Heathen! If I ever find anyone who is more into himself and his own opinions than you, I'll write to you and tell you.
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Well, how absolutely magnanimous! Purely subjective. I'm sure that the Patriarchs and those who witnessed Jesus's life would have said exactly the same thing as would each generation, there being no time like the time we were brought up, because that is the one we were/are used to.

Were anyone to believe your clap-trap, both the past ans the future would be seen as grim. The past was not good enough, the future is unknown and to be feared!

The secret is to view it objectively. To do this we must learn and regularly consult The Bible - the manual for The Way, The Truth and The Light. Once we all do that, keep to God's Word and have the gift of Salvation, we will really know that we are living in the Best of Times.
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Brother Bathfire, I am sorry to burst in upon your thread like this, but I just found out that a clam lived to be 60 years' old. A clam.
A cold, slimy, cooter-looking, piffleing CLAM.

Sometimes I must question the Good Lord, and then I do get Angry

At myself, of course. For questioning Him

But yes, I feel Ill over this new-found fact; in fact, I haven't felt this Ill since Dora Denkins spiked the punch at the Church Social Picnic with her lighter fluid.

So Forgive me if my Tiara slipped here a little, but JESUS CHRIST - a CLAM?!!

Maybe this is in some way related to the Baby Jesu perhaps being a Snail?
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That's what I mean, Brother Nobar King. To Live 60 years Praising Jesus would be a Glorious thing. But so many of us are Called Home™ at such an early age.

And when's the last time anybody heard a CLAM of any age Praise Jesus?

A clam. A clam. A clam. A God-Damned piffling CLAM
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And when's the last time anybody heard a CLAM of any age Praise Jesus?
They tend to clam up when anybody starts discussing God.
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