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Old 08-26-2008, 11:28 PM
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Okay so pretty much the argument is that the Bible is right and everything else is wrong? Wow, that was a long video just to say you believe only because of faith. And say no to reason? Wow, that is very primitive.
In fact, there is nothing primitive about faith .
It is actualy one of the higher states of consciousness.

That is why only one species, or rather one small section of that species, really has it.

Any species can deal with the tangible. Any animal can interact with a bananna, or a rock, or a log.

Only the chosen can actually demonstrate a higher level of sentience needed to translate the intangible nature of faith into a real form of existence and belief.

Faith is not primitive , it is intricate yet simple in its essential purity, and obviously beyond your ken.
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It's called Absolute Faith.
Something an ignorant, blinkered Tunnel-vision Godless Atheist can never have.

I also believe in God because God is real. The Bible is real, the Bible tells me God is real. The Bible is The Truth because it says so in The Real Bible.

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Maybe Im not in on the joke. I just found this website. You do realize that his video is a satire, correct? He is mocking Christians for their beliefs. What you are saying here is a fallacy known as 'circular logic' or 'begging the question'.

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If this form of reason were acceptable, I would able to prove Conan the barbarian was real because there are texts that say he is real.


Again, I'm new, perhaps Im not in on the joke.
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If this form of reason were acceptable, I would able to prove Conan the barbarian was real because there are texts that say he is real.
... but I see you quote none of those texts because you and I both know that they are the work of over-excited, poorly educated people, who do not have behind them the Authority of The Almighty!
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... but I see you quote none of those texts because you and I both know that they are the work of over-excited, poorly educated people, who do not have behind them the Authority of The Almighty!
Quite true, I do not quote Conan the barbarian because it is a ridiculous proposition.
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Quite true, I do not quote Conan the barbarian because it is a ridiculous proposition.
..and by extension, your use of him in an argument was ridiculous - God 1 - enclave2k7 0
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..and by extension, your use of him in an argument was ridiculous - God 1 - enclave2k7 0
I was explaining that the video was mocking Christians. The form of reasoning used is fallacious.

I created an analogy to help you better understand the fallacy which was used to show how ridiculous the notion is. If you believe the analogy to be foolish, my point was made... in your terms, by extension the reasoning (circular logic) is foolish.
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I was explaining that the video was mocking Christians. The form of reasoning used is fallacious.

I created an analogy to help you better understand the fallacy which was used to show how ridiculous the notion is. If you believe the analogy to be foolish, my point was made... in your terms, by extension the reasoning (circular logic) is foolish.
I think we all know who the Christ-mocker is here.

The only reasoning we need is found in the Holy Bible. Glory!!
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I think we all know who the Christ-mocker is here.
I have not mocked your God. Perhaps you believe I do, but, it was not intentional.


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The only reasoning we need is found in the Holy Bible. Glory!!
Thank you! This precisely illustrates the point of circular logic.

You only need the Holy Bible, because it is the inspired word of God.
God is indisputable because the Holy Bible tells us so.

I hope I have made this clear for you to understand; please point out what you dont understand.
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I have not mocked your God. Perhaps you believe I do, but, it was not intentional.
By openly rejecting Him, and by coming univited and unwelcomed into God's favorite forum and exspousing all manner of seccularist lies, you mock Him with each post.



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Thank you! This precisely illustrates the point of circular logic.

You only need the Holy Bible, because it is the inspired word of God.
God is indisputable because the Holy Bible tells us so.

I hope I have made this clear for you to understand; please point out what you dont understand.
You have to be the thickest unsaved heathen we've had in a long time. Do you imagine the it's news to us that we obey God based on His Divine Word in the Holy KJV1611 Bible?

God wrote the book. Who are you to reject it? Without even bothering to read it yet!! What a maroon!
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But, I have read the King James Version Bible.
Then I imagine you must be familiar with this verse, which explains why unsaved scum like you have no hope of understanding the Holy Word of God.

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But, I have read the King James Version Bible.
The Book of Common Prayer (1662), Collects. 2nd Sunday in Advent is instructive; Blessed Lord, who hast caused all holy Scriptures to be written for our learning; Grant that we may in such wise hear them read, mark, learn, and inwardly digest them, that by patience, and comfort of thy holy Word, we may embrace, and ever hold fast the blessed hope of everlasting life.

So get on with this bit; read, mark, learn, and inwardly digest and note the possible afterlife benefits! Praise!
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More Proof that God is real! Let's see even silly asshat-athiests try ta dispute THIS one!



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Yeah, I once got a message in my cereal... it said "oooooooooooooooooo". It was cheerios.
Doesn't mean a thing. A silly "picture" in a frying pan? Please. If you look hard enough I am sure you could find a picture of any silly god in any instrument/medium you wish to strain your eyes to see.
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Then I imagine you must be familiar with this verse, which explains why unsaved scum like you have no hope of understanding the Holy Word of God.
While I can appreciate you telling me that I am unsaved, the fact you refer to me as scum is amusing to me. Doesn't the responsibility of judgment fall upon your God and not you?

Besides, is this how you would speak to someone you have forgiven for his sins?

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But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses. Mark 11:26
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While I can appreciate you telling me that I am unsaved, the fact you refer to me as scum is amusing to me. Doesn't the responsibility of judgment fall upon your God and not you?
No, Jesus commands us to judge unsaved scum like you.

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Leviticus 19:15
In righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1 Corinthians 2:15
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1 Corinthians 5:12-13
For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

1 Corinthians 6:2-3
Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

1 Tim 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

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Besides, is this how you would speak to someone you have forgiven for his sins?
You cannot be forgiven unless you repent and ask Jesus to forgive you. Unless and until you take that first step, Jesus wants us to avoid scum like you as if you had the plague.

We are commanded to hate those that hate God.

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Psalm 139:19 Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men.
20 For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain.
21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
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From your own signature:
But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses. Mark 11:26
See above. You have to ASK for forgiveness and sincerely REPENT before God will give you the time of day.
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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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The person who made that video is obviously a troll. He doesn't believe anything in it, and made it just to get an uprise out of people. You can practically hear the sarcasm in his voice.
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The person who made that video is obviously a troll. He doesn't believe anything in it, and made it just to get an uprise out of people. You can practically hear the sarcasm in his voice.
Funny, I was just thinking the same thing about you, troll.
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Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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This is no proof, it is just an opinion.

While you believe without knowing, scientists are based on facts and mathematics.
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This is no proof, it is just an opinion.

While you believe without knowing, scientists are based on facts and mathematics.
"Facts" always change. 200 years ago it was a "fact" that Man couldn't fly. Now it's a "fact" that we can.


God never changes.
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Who Will Jesus Damn?

Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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