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it's obvious the bible has been perverted and changed over the years.
If this was true then you would think that someone would have figured this out, by now. In fact, it is not true. The Bible was meticulously copied by thousands of scholars throughout history and do you think anyone would let them get away with a mistake?
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There is tons of proof that the Bible is wrong. By common sense. We weren't born in that time but it's obvious the bible has been perverted and changed over the years. Plus, hey it was man made. Look in to the laws of physics and geology and you will soon see Noah ark is impossible for starters. the same goes for the vast majority of it.
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pick up one of these and read it then come back and tell us that
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Okay, so I only saw the introduction video and didn't read the whole thread because it is way too long. I'm an atheist, let's just talk about this for a second.

First of all: The earth is only 6.000 years old? You have GOT to be joking on this one? The earth is MILLIONS of years old, and there is A LOT of evidence to support that.

Second: God wrote the bible? So he created the earth in 7 days (or 6, whatever you prefer) and than he sat down for a year to write a book about a guy who was to be born (according to you guys) 4.000 years later? That just doesn't make any sense? When the hell did God write it?

Third: Evolution is a FACT. There is just no way to deny it? Skeletons of humans that are found even prove that, not even talking about the fact that we descend from monkeys. Men used to be a lot smaller, if you just go back like 5.000 years, the average height of a man was around 1m50. Now it's 1m80. How does your holy book explain that?

And last but not least: "This is the 21st century, so we must live according to a very old book." This just makes no sense? But seriously, no sense at all... This is one of the most ridiculous things I have heard in my entire life.

I have actually read the bible. Yes, I am an atheist and yes, I read the Bible... It's quite a nice book, it has some action in it, a lot of things mentioned in it have a deeper meaning if you interpret them right. However, beating the shit out of your wife and child, selling them, denying everything that's not in a 2000 year old book, ... That's not the way you're supposed to live, that's just being stupid and cruel.
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Okay, so I ...tl;dr.... just being stupid and cruel.
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Why do you hate God? Did He not give you a G.I. Joe with a Kung Fu™ grip?
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Welcome friend.

Why do you hate God? Did He not give you a G.I. Joe with a Kung Fu™ grip?
Or are you just (as you said) stupid and cruel?
That's the lamest argument I've ever heard.

And actually, I just wanted a username that got me the attention of you "True Christians". I don't really hate god, I just don't believe he exists... (otherwise, he would've given me that G.I. Joe you speak of )
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Did your parents not beat you properly as a child? What's wrong with you that you make yourself out to be some kind of hideous blasphemer and then rant and rave just so we'll notice you? Didn't daddy love you enough to give you the whacks you needed to learn some proper manners and sense?

it's pathetic, and you're endangering your soul while you play this silly game of bait-your-elders-and-betters.

Get yourself down to your local church and pick up a King James Bible and learn the Truth® before it's too late. Jesus is as real as a talking burning bush, you know.
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Did your parents not beat you properly as a child? What's wrong with you that you make yourself out to be some kind of hideous blasphemer and then rant and rave just so we'll notice you? Didn't daddy love you enough to give you the whacks you needed to learn some proper manners and sense?
This is seriously just stupid, sorry for saying it so blunt... My dad actually beat me quite a lot, didn't have anything to do with religion, he was just an asshole. If I understand you correctly, you beat your children out of love?

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First of all, you're not better than me... You have a different opinion, that makes you in no way better than anybody else. It's proof that you are human, but I am entitled to that very same right to have my opinion and to state it on this forum.

Also, endangering my soul? I should've been struck down by lightning bolts a couple thousand of times if that's the case.

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This made me laugh... Jesus is as real as a talking burning bush? You do realize bushes can't talk right?
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Second: God wrote the bible? So he created the earth in 7 days (or 6, whatever you prefer) and than he sat down for a year to write a book about a guy who was to be born (according to you guys) 4.000 years later? That just doesn't make any sense? When the hell did God write it?
You really don't know ANYTHING about the Bible, do you.

1. God did not write the Bible - people inspired by God did.
2. The whole Bible is not about "a guy." I'm assuming that you are referring to Jesus Christ, but, for your information - He is not the sole subject of the Bible.

Try reading the Bible before you criticize it. I thing you mentioned in some other thread (or maybe it was some other evolutionist idiot) that you are in mathematics? Then maybe start with Numbers
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This made me laugh... Jesus is as real as a talking burning bush? You do realize bushes can't talk right?
Proverbs 13:24
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Are you saying god was lying about the burning bush?
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1 Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb.

2 And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.

3 And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt.

4 And when the Lord saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I.

Why would God pretend to have talked from a burning bush? I don't get it. God quite clearly made the bush appear to talk. it shows His power and majesty. There's no way it could burn like that if it wan't God doing it. Have you ever seen anything burn and not be consumed? Why are you scoffing at the one word of Truth®? How can Jesus be real if this is not? It doesn't make sense. My comaprison between them was a good one.

You are a nasty and hateful person. I'll pray for you.
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24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
Are you saying god was lying about the burning bush?
Basilissa, you should read this too:
So God didn't write the Bible? The video clearly says "It says so on the first page of the book God himself says he wrote". I'm getting confused here? Also, yes he was lying about the burning bush mate, get over it... Bushes don't talk.

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1 Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb.

2 And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.

3 And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt.

4 And when the Lord saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I.

Why would God pretend to have talked from a burning bush? I don't get it. God quite clearly made the bush appear to talk. it shows His power and majesty. There's no way it could burn like that if it wan't God doing it. Have you ever seen anything burn and not be consumed? Why are you scoffing at the one word of Truth®? How can Jesus be real if this is not? It doesn't make sense. My comaprison between them was a good one.

You are a nasty and hateful person. I'll pray for you.
And you are 100% sure that Moses (it was Moses who talked to it right? I'm not quite sure about this anymore) wasn't just tripping from the drugs that you so hate and thought the bush was talking?

And that's just it, things that burn get consumed, especially bushes since they're made out of wood. It is simply impossible to burn wood without it being consumed, so why are you all assuming that it happened? Because it says so in the bible? Why do you believe everything the bible says?

Save your prayers, for I have no need of them... I am not hateful, I am a very loving person actually. I never resort to violence, neither do I hold grudge against anything or anyone. I may express myself in quite a tone, but there's nothing wrong with that. Why, for God's sake, should I kneel and scrape in the shit of other people? Was I not created equally?

I know that this must seem like a bunch of nonsense to the lot of you, I really do. I am but filled with questions, why are you people so convinced that everything the bible says is true?
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...It is simply impossible to burn wood without it being consumed, so why are you all assuming that it happened?...
What are candle wicks made of?
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Braided cotton, which gets consumed... Ever seen an everlasting candle? This isn't really on topic though, because they aren't made of wood. (very rarely they are, but it still gets consumed so I don't get the point)
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Basilissa, you should read this too:
So God didn't write the Bible? The video clearly says "It says so on the first page of the book God himself says he wrote".
Show me in the Bible, where does it say that. I don't see it. Also, the Bible refers to God in 3rd person, not in 1st. ("The Lord did," "the Lord spake," I'm not even giving citations because these phrases you can find on almost every page). Also, several books in the Bible have known human authors (just look at Gospels).

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I'm getting confused here? Also, yes he was lying about the burning bush mate, get over it... Bushes don't talk.
That's the thing with God, He does miracles.

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And you are 100% sure that Moses (it was Moses who talked to it right? I'm not quite sure about this anymore) wasn't just tripping from the drugs that you so hate and thought the bush was talking?
That's blasphemy, but I'll answer anyway: because the Bible was inspired by God, so all events that are described did happen.

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And that's just it, things that burn get consumed, especially bushes since they're made out of wood. It is simply impossible to burn wood without it being consumed,
Wrong: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictamnus#section_2
And that is something that happens naturally. God, of course, can make any bush burn for as long as He wishes.

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Why do you believe everything the bible says?
Because we are Christians and we know that the Bible is the Word of God.

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I am not hateful, I am a very loving person actually. I never resort to violence, neither do I hold grudge against anything or anyone.
Says person whose nickname reads "I hate God."

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I know that this must seem like a bunch of nonsense to the lot of you, I really do.
This is the first reasonable thing that you've said

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I am but filled with questions, why are you people so convinced that everything the bible says is true?
Because we have faith in our God.
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Show me in the Bible, where does it say that. I don't see it. Also, the Bible refers to God in 3rd person, not in 1st. ("The Lord did," "the Lord spake," I'm not even giving citations because these phrases you can find on almost every page). Also, several books in the Bible have known human authors (just look at Gospels).
I just told you the video stated that... I'm not going to argue about what has been said exactly in the bible because you have read it a lot more than me. You may be right, but than the video was wrong.

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That's the thing with God, He does miracles.
Or someone was hiding behind the bush and saying whatever he wanted? I'm not going to believe in talking bushes until you can show me one...

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That's blasphemy, but I'll answer anyway: because the Bible was inspired by God, so all events that are described did happen.
This was what I was waiting for... You ASSUME that all events described in the bible did actually happen. However, what PROOF do you have that it wasn't just written by some guy who was a little koo-koo in the head? Where in the Bible does it say that everything in the Bible actually happened? That is wasn't to be interpreted? Where does it say that you are not allowed to think for yourself?

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Wrong: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictamnus#section_2
And that is something that happens naturally. God, of course, can make any bush burn for as long as He wishes.
If you actually read the article, you will first of all see that it is the oil on the flowers that burns, not the bush itself.

For the sake of argument, let's say you are right. Didn't you just give a scientific explanation for the burning bush? Because in that case, He didn't actually set it on fire did he?

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Because we are Christians and we know that the Bible is the Word of God.
Change the knowing part to thinking...

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Says person whose nickname reads "I hate God."
Hehe, you are quite right in this regard. However, as you have read before, I don't actually hate God.

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This is the first reasonable thing that you've said
Well, than you know how I feel reading this entire forum, don't you?

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Because we have faith in our God.
And what of people who believe in a different God? Let's say Muslims, they're wrong then? Or Jews? Or Atheists? Or Buddhists? Or whatever other religion you prefer? They are all wrong, and you are the only ones who are right?
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...And what of people who believe in a different God? Let's say Muslims, they're wrong then?...
Same God.

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...Or Jews?...
Same God.

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...Or Atheists?...
No God (that's why they're atheists, duh). And don't capitalize atheist (unless it's the first word of a sentence, or part of the name of a group, like American Atheists), it's not a proper noun.

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... Or Buddhists?...
No God.

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...Or whatever other religion you prefer? They are all wrong, and you are the only ones who are right?
If they thought Jews/Muslims/whatever were right, they'd be Jews/Muslims/whatever (and still think they were right, and everyone else is wrong), duh. Do you even think about things before you go showing the entire world how ignorant you are?
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Same God.
Quite confused here... So God, Yahweh and Allah are the same, but there are 3 different books on how to worship them and you can just pick one of your choosing?

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No God (that's why they're atheists, duh). And don't capitalize atheist (unless it's the first word of a sentence, or part of the name of a group, like American Atheists), it's not a proper noun.
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No God.
I know Buddhist don't worship a God, and I am well aware that atheists don't believe in God, seeing that I am one myself... That wasn't the point, I was asking if they were all wrong according to our beloved True Christians.
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Quite confused here... So God, Yahweh and Allah are the same, but there are 3 different books on how to worship them and you can just pick one of your choosing?...
But if you pick the wrong one (or read the right one the wrong way), no Heaven for you.

Btw: the Torah is composed of the first five books of the Christian Old Testament (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy).

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...I know Buddhist don't worship a God, and I am well aware that atheists don't believe in God, seeing that I am one myself... That wasn't the point, I was asking if they were all wrong according to our beloved True Christians.
Yes. All religions think everyone else is wrong (or they'd join the other religion that they thought was right, obviously).
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It's called Absolute Faith.
Something an ignorant, blinkered Tunnel-vision Godless Atheist can never have.

I also believe in God because God is real. The Bible is real, the Bible tells me God is real. The Bible is The Truth because it says so in The Real Bible.

See, easy
This is going to be LEGEN...wait for it....DARY as it is my first post here... let's begin:

1. The Bible is not "real". You can't prove that, not now, not ever. The Bible has been written by "man" not by God. If you tell me that you believe that another person ( a human being ) wrote something he felt is right, and that what he wrote was told by God, without knowing it to be true... you're plain stupid.

2. The Bible tells you God is real, the Coran tells you Muhammad is real, the buddhists tell you Budha is real and so on... WHY do you listen to the words of a book? What is a book? It's a collection of pages written by man. What is God? A Supernatural being that does not show himself to individuals the way we people meet. It is believed he created everything that exists and that everything will end with Him. I agree, but not to your God, nor the Coran's or so on. I believe in MY GOD, a mighty presence that gave me the liberty of choosing what is right from what is wrong and i honor Him in my way, truly, not just going to church just to say that i'm religious. Why can't you accept Science and God in the same world?

3. "The Bible is The Truth because it says so in The Real Bible." ARE YOU SERIOUS??? You can't be that retarded... if there are multiple versions of the Bible than it means once again that THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN BY MAN, AND AS YOU ALL KNOW IT ALREADY, MAN IS CORRUPTIBLE.

4. Why do you Hate afro-americans, jews, homosexuals, atheists, autists and so many othe social categories of people??

a. Afro-Americans are human beings just like you, have the same rights and privileges. Why do you call them "negros" ?? Don't you know that the term used by you is "offensive" and "hurtful" ?

b. Jews are human beings just like you and have suffered in the name of religion, politics, racism MUCH MUCH more than you... why are you better? Because you believe in "YOUR" God and they in theirs?

c. What the f**k is your problem if 2 persons of the same gender like each other? Do they show their affection on your bed? In your house? Why do you need to verbally offend them? You use the words "unfaithful trash" for everyone that doesn't feel the same way about a topic. Again this is "offensive" , "hurtful" and "racist".

d.I won't even want to start to talk about atheists. Everyone believes in something at a certain point in life and although you like to think that if you don't spend your whole life as a "believer" you will burn in hell, you won't. At best you ascend to another plain of existence or at worst your just cease to exist.

e. Autism. This bullshit of a topic on your forum got me started on you faggots. Autism is a disease it's not a "cool" side of life. Autists don't get to live a normal life, they don't get to experience the joy of life as you, or me. How can you approve that idiotic shame of a woman, when she wrote that Autism means Atheism?? Are you really that retarded?

-> Autism affects information processing in the brain by altering how nerve cells and their synapses connect and organize; how this occurs is not well understood. - Source: Wikipedia <-

This whole forum is a piece of trash and a source of hateful, spiteful, meaningless, RACIST / OFFENSIVE SPEECH / HURTFUL ideas. Let me quote one more thing for you, your REGISTRATION terms of service:

"By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.

The owners of The Landover Baptist Church Forum reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason."


In case you didn't know OFFENSIVE speech is punishable by law in the U.S. and RACISM is punishable by law in every civilized country. So who is braking the laws? Me or you? I take full responsibility for my words, do you take responsibility for yours? Would you agree to face a Court of Law for your hurtful words?

Read a book (other than the Bible of course and another genre), go out, visit some other countries, learn to respect other human beings regardless of their beliefs, and treasure the gift of free will. Being able to decide what's good and what's wrong on yourself, not by listening to a book written by others a few hundred years ago, is what makes you a human being, a thinking mammal. For now you're just monkeys.

FYI: I'm not black, i'm not a Jew, i'm not homosexual, i'm not a communist (only communists around are Asian and Arab countries, NOT European), i'm not Autistic, i'm not an atheist (in fact i am a Christian, Orthodox), i'm just a human being like yourselves that is disgusted by your words of "preaching".
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If God "said"

Exodus 20:3
"Thou shalt have no other Gods before me"

Isn't he adnitting he is not only God
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