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I'd feel more comfortable if you would provide supporting Scripture for these claims.

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But that is precisely my point. The internet is an invented concept not defined in the Bible. But we do not fear the internet.

What difference is that from gravity? Of course we could argue that God invented the internet to spread his word, but then why can't we argue that God invented gravity to keep his children grounded?

It seems we continue to redefine what is and isn't Scripture to fit our needs (or in some cases comfort levels) every time a new discovery occurs. But we shouldn't find the need to continually defend our religion against science - God invented science.

There is no mention of Capitalism in the Bible - this too is a modern concept. But God has provided us with the power of reason. The ability to analyze the economic systems that have preceded us and create something better. And I don't think most Americans Christians would consider Capitalism evil - though it's certainly imperfect.

My point is that we continue to feel threatened by new discoveries because we fear that in some way they're either sent from the Devil or are attempting to disprove the existence of God. Meanwhile God invented everything that has been discovered and everything that has yet to be discovered by man. We should not fear, but embrace the excitement and potential wonder of all the discoveries yet to come, which He has ultimately provided.

Concepts like the internet, gravity, economy and science are not inherently evil, nor do they inherently disprove God's existence. Atheists will use them however they wish to support their beliefs, just as many fearing Christians will refute them to protect theirs. In either case these concepts still come from God.

Finally, we must be very careful with how we define what's the right belief. How can there exist right and wrong in the eyes of faith. We must respect our differing beliefs and their colorful, multifarious nature. We cannot say the Atheist is wrong - his/her faith dictates to them that there is no God. We cannot say the Muslim is wrong - his/her faith dictates to them that Allah send them the prophet Muhammad. Just as they can never say that the Christian is mistaken - for our faith dictates that God appeared to us in the flesh, as Jesus Christ, and who's death and resurrection provided our salvation.

Faith can never be truly right nor truly wrong. There is no guarantee in, or absolute notion of, any one belief system. If there were, there would be no reason for multiple religions - for why would there be if we had irrefutable proof that one was truly right? We can only believe it to be true.

God exists in our hearts. He is a matter of personal expression and individual love. And how can anyone refute that?
There is no mention of Coca Cola® in the Bible, either. Nor cheeseburgers.

God doesn't exist in your heart. He ACTUALLY exists, just as real as the very fires of hell.

You are making a typical false Christian mistake. You want to make claims based on what YOU can understand from God's Holy Word. The trouble is, you don't understand the Holy Word. Because your father is satan.

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Hi, and welcome to our friendly forums! I'm afraid you're quite confused here. We're not afraid of anything save the Lord (Matthew 10:28). No one here is afraid of new discoveries, we simply discern false claims from the Truth. Do you have a problem with the Truth? It seems to me you do, because why else would you find a kind and friendly church forum and then accuse everyone of being heartless cowards? I think there is some hidden fear that resides in deep in your heart, and yet your soul is crying out for the Truth. This would explain why you simultaneously ridicule and respect us. Your flesh desires the ridicule, as it is governed by sin, but your soul desires the Truth at is is crying out for its Creator. I find it interesting that rather than read the Holy Bible for yourself, you are playing some subtle game of "Gotcha" with people who have a desire only to serve and love the LORD.

Well, the LORD for one refutes that pretty clearly (Matthew 12:30 ). Do you mean to suggest that God wasn't quite sure what He meant when He wrote the Scriptures? Do you mean to suggest that God was intentionally vague and misleading? Do you mean to suggest that in addition to the 40,000+ Christian denominations and thousands of other religions, people with no religion or made up new age beliefs are all correct, even though the diametrically oppose each other? Do you really mean to suggest A can at the same time be A and not A? That's foolishness, dear. Are you potted up on weed right now, because that's the only thing that makes sense here.
Sister Mary, I now admit this is the beginning of a break through, Praise Jesus! But I wish not to bore you with the details here as I have already exclaimed my personal revelation at the tail end of my introduction message. Please pardon all previous submissions of false inquiry and transgression. For they were nothing more than a poor-lamb's attempt at ensuring the truth found in these pages stood in accordance with what the good people of my own community have been preaching for more than 400 years - the truth found only in the KJV1611 Bible.

I shall heretofore not interpret, nor question, nor transgress that which this community has put forth - if, that is, it has been put forth through the Good Lord, Jesus Christ!

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Science has proven in several ways that the earth is older than 6000 years like the 7000 year old tree found in 2010 and what do you guys have one book what does the the word bible mean it means book bet half you guys didn't know that that's why it's called the holy bible not just bible. So what if the bible was just some book a guy wrote to troll people and make them live there lives in a good way knowing that when they died they would never know he lied so there life was wasted
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Science has proven in several ways that the earth is older than 6000 years like the 7000 year old tree

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Good grief, you Jesus-haters are so full of baloney. Even your precious Wickedpedia entry for it gives a range of between 2,170 and 7,200 years old.

Look, I'm no rocket surgeon but that is a spread of over 5,000 years, or a margin of error of SEVENTY PERCENT!!!



Yeah...I think I'll stick with the infallible Word of God, thank you very much.

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So what if the bible was just some book a guy wrote to troll people and make them live there lives in a good way knowing that when they died they would never know he lied so there life was wasted
That's right, for somebody like you the Bible is "just some book" To understand the Bible you need the inspiration and the guidance of the Holy Spirit, but you are clearly inspired and guided by satan.


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For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. - 1 Corinthians 1:18-21


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Where do I begin! First, I don't really know very many big words, and I'm not that great at math, just passing. The only thing I got going for me is the wisdom God blesses me with! People sometimes ask me, "How do you know God is real? Can you prove it? Here's the thing... I don't prove God is real, HE proves He's real to me! And I know because He ( I won't say talks) communicates with me! He does it in a way that I know it's Him! There is no mistaking it, and I promise I'm not delusional.

The reason God can hear 5 million prayers at the same time is because there are Millions of dimensions. Since God is a Spirit and He is everywhere, He hears every prayer. BTW, Satan is only in one dimension and he can only be in one place at a time. But he has fallen angels (demons) by the thousands doing his evil works for him. All that to say this... Millions of dimensions are not empty places.

There is plenty going on we can't comprehend. God is on such a higher plane than us. As much as we try, We can not expect what makes sense to us to apply to God. In other words, we can not bring Him down to our level! We try to prove things on our level. There are things that are on such a higher level that our level of thinking is like us trying to tell cavemen about jet airplanes or computers, they just can't comprehend any of it.

There are scientists who also teach bible prophesy who also study the stars, universe. One of these scientists told me, "God created the whole vast universe 'just to sustain the earth'". That means in our universe, life only exists on Earth! Now perhaps (I'm guessing) in another dimensions, there is other universes where God created life on another planet! I don't know if Jesus had to die for other peoples' sins on other worlds in other dimensions! But I do know this.. Jesus would do it a thousand of times to please the Father! God says in the Bible, "Jesus would have come to the earth and die that same death on the cross if YOU were the only person on this planet. HE would have came to die JUST FOR YOU!" wow, so YES, I believe Jesus would die a thousand times for all worlds, if be needed.
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Are people this stupid that they needed this? In my opinion, anybody who doesn't believe in God 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 (Here God shows how much he doesn't like them) and people who don't follow the law ALL OF IT James 2:10 are stupid. Why need proof and not just believe?
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Are people this stupid that they needed this? In my opinion, anybody who doesn't believe in God 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 (Here God shows how much he doesn't like them) and people who don't follow the law ALL OF IT James 2:10 are stupid. Why need proof and not just believe?
Unfortunately, people ARE that stupid. Any rational person who examines the evidence can see plainly that God created everything, not to mention that there's irrefutable eyewitness testimony in the Holy Bible, King James 1611 version. But there are some people who demand that every single detail be proved before they will believe something. Mostly these skeptics are people who are upset with God. But, even so, we don't want to lose ALL of their souls to Satan, so we have to keep trying, tedious though it might be. Eventually, some people who visit our website will get it.
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You are mean and horrifyingly intolerent. How dare you insult other people? Seems satan is YOUR subtle fetish.
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You are mean and horrifyingly intolerent. How dare you insult other people? Seems satan is YOUR subtle fetish.
Hi, and welcome to Landover!

If you'd use the "Quote" button (at the bottom right of each post), it would be clear just whom you're attempting to harangue.

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Heres the thing:

If you where trying to prove something, you need to cite more than one source. Thats why jury's have multiple people, and why research will draw from several pieces of work. The bible obviously confirms its own belief that god exists, because it was "written" by god. But just because one being deems something as being true doesnt mean that they are right. For example, lets say a crazy dude wrote the bible (not going to be a popular idea around here but what are ya gonna do) just because that crazy person says that the bible is true doesnt mean it is. Essentially the point is that AN ARGUMENT CANNOT BE ITS EVIDENCE. it just doesn't work that way. Im not going to change anyones mind on this forum. but piffle it.
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If you where trying to prove something, you need to cite more than one source. Thats why jury's have multiple people, and why research will draw from several pieces of work. The bible obviously confirms its own belief that god exists, because it was "written" by god. But just because one being deems something as being true doesnt mean that they are right. For example, lets say a crazy dude wrote the bible (not going to be a popular idea around here but what are ya gonna do) just because that crazy person says that the bible is true doesnt mean it is. Essentially the point is that AN ARGUMENT CANNOT BE ITS EVIDENCE. it just doesn't work that way. Im not going to change anyones mind on this forum. but piffle it.
That doesn't make any sense, dear. Who can be more right than God? He doesn't need a cheerleading squad to echo Him.

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If I make a vessel of clay, do I need it to prove my own existance?

No, I think not.

Atheists are so stupid that they do not understand this much logic.
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If you where trying to prove something, you need to cite more than one source. Thats why jury's have multiple people
You are very, very confused, aren't you? The part in bold has absolutely nothing to do with citing more than one source. It has to do with more than one person evaluating the evidence.

Juries (note the plural form) have more than one person so that a variety of people can decide on the reliability of the evidence and come to a verdict, either unanimously or by a majority. And they may fail to agree. BUT there may only be a single piece of evidence to evaluate, i.e. one source being cited.
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research will draw from several pieces of work.
Research is the process by which those pieces of work are originated. Quoting them is just that. A quote.

A quote is not research.
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This will probably be off-topic, but since I can't create my own threads, I figured I should find an existing one and since this section does talk about science, I think it should be suited for my question.

I've always been curious about the whole Tree of Knowledge thing. The idea is, that Adam ate from the tree and was banished from Eden. However, what I do not understand is, what exactly did he learn?

Sometimes it's mentioned that eating from the tree, allowed Adam to learn about good and evil, though I am not 100% sure if that's true.

Either way, can someone please enlighten me, what kind of knowledge did the tree of knowledge contain?
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This will probably be off-topic, but since I can't create my own threads, I figured I should find an existing one and since this section does talk about science, I think it should be suited for my question.

I've always been curious about the whole Tree of Knowledge thing. The idea is, that Adam ate from the tree and was banished from Eden. However, what I do not understand is, what exactly did he learn?

Sometimes it's mentioned that eating from the tree, allowed Adam to learn about good and evil, though I am not 100% sure if that's true.

Either way, can someone please enlighten me, what kind of knowledge did the tree of knowledge contain?
Thank you for your interesting question. We don't get many people from Godless Africa and I am happy to post the Scripture for you.
GENESIS 2
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And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
3 4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil...
22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
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Actually, I am from the jungles of africa. My boyfriend is a monkey.
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Anyway, thank you for the answer, but the bible version doesn't really answer it. It grants a rather vague answer.

Isn't there a clearer answer?

(wow, I do like to say "answer" a lot)

Then again, if we do go by the scripture, then Adam learned to tell the difference between good and evil. But isn't that a good thing? To be able to tell when you're doing something evil or good?
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Actually, I am from the jungles of africa. My boyfriend is a monkey.
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Anyway, thank you for the answer, but the bible version doesn't really answer it. It grants a rather vague answer.

Isn't there a clearer answer?

(wow, I do like to say "answer" a lot)

Then again, if we do go by the scripture, then Adam learned to tell the difference between good and evil. But isn't that a good thing? To be able to tell when you're doing something evil or good?
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